No, Not One

"Do they make sex offender zombie costumes? I'd like to pick me up one, so I can jump out behind some bushes and scare the little kiddies. Mew hah hah hah....."

-Michael James Gregg
Convicted Child Molester

Little does Michael Gregg aka Zman aka SexOffenderIssues know - he doesn't need a costume. No, he and others like him are scary enough as it is.

They are scary not because parents are "hysterical or "over-protective" as he claims but because there really are monsters out there. Michael should know better than to mock this serious issue. He should know because he's one of the monsters.

See that graphic above? That's what Michael Gregg is trying to sell in his "advertise you're a demented sex offender defender" store.

What goes on in the mind of someone like Michael Gregg? If we didn't already know from reading his prolific blathering histrionics - that graphic says it all. At the moment this proven liar and convicted child molester is bemoaning the fact that parents can know someone is a child molester on Halloween rather than allowing their children to blindly knock on a monster's door. Even more importantly he doesn't understand limiting convicted child molesters from participating in this children's holiday. After all, why shouldn't known pedophiles be allowed to lure children with candy and decorations?

His logic seems to be

"Over the last 100 or more years, there has not been a single case of a child being sexually abused on Halloween by a known or unknown sex offender"

and

"There has not been one case of where a child was sexually abused by a known or unknown sex offender on Halloween, not one!"

He has repeated that over and over again. Frankly, I don't understand why he would believe that Halloween is immune. Why would registered sex offenders reoffend 364 days a year but not on Halloween? It makes no sense. Especially when we consider the study he links to by the sex offender apologist who has devoted her career to making life easier for baby rapers - Jill Levenson. Jill says that there are no more sex crimes committed on Halloween than any other day of the year - no fewer either for that matter.

I suppose he just missed some things. Arpana Jinaga for example who not only raped but killed his victim - at a Halloween party. How about Matthew Trakas who exposed himself to young girls while putting up Halloween decorations. How about Howard Ault - who lured two young sisters aged 11 and 7 with a promise of Halloween candy then raped and murdered the two? How about Victor Oustigoff who molested a 3 year old in his neighbors bathroom on Halloween night while her grandmother was in the other room. How about these guys? All repeat offenders. I have more, lots more. But Michael Gregg doesn't apparently - and we all know how sex offender dementia works - if he doesn't know about it - well then, it just didn't happen.

Michael Gregg's denial and rationalizations are only surpassed on the offensive scale by his tongue-lashing of victims and their families - a trait that belittles him as a man and gives him the appearance of an extremely dangerous person suffering a total disconnect with reality.

There's nothing we can do about that I suppose, although there IS help out there if Michael would seek it. As far as the offensive shirt design I can outdo him trying to scare you.........
How's that for scary?

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The truth is sex offenders DO reoffend on Halloween. They reoffend every single day.

The sex offender defender which Michael Gregg knows and loves - Sarah Tofte - says that 25% of all sex offenders reoffend within 15 years. She also says that registered sex offenders make up one-fifth of one percent of the U.S. population and yet this tiny group is responsible for 13% of all NEW sex crimes.

The accepted authority on recidivism says this:

"On average most sex offenders are never caught again for a new sex offense, after five years, between 10 and 15 percent of sex offenders are detected, often convicted, of committing a new sex offense. If you follow them for ten years the rates go up somewhat, if you follow them as long as we’ve been able to follow them, which is about 20 years, the rates go up to somewhere between 30 to 40 percent of the total sample will eventually be caught for a new sex offense."

Dr. R. Karl Hansen

Why Michael Gregg and others like him who have the most reasons to try and prove that they aren't animals, that they are capable of rehabilitation and worthy of society's trust would choose to mock and ridicule people who have been damaged by sex offenders is a mystery. I'm of the opinion that it is because they are not capable of rehabilitation as they continue to make the same disturbing mistakes over and over and over again. What other mistakes do they continue to make?

Just keep watching. I do.

Heartless Bastards!

From the mouth of Zman!

"This was not good before, and by forcing a woman to live there is asking for problems. Is the state going to be blamed if she is raped by someone? I doubt it, but they are the HEARTLESS BASTARDS that are doing this. WHERE ARE THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS? Hell, do they even exist anymore? So what's next? Are you going to also be sending child sex offenders to live under the bridge as well?"


I was under the impression from reading that article that she was offered a place to stay and didn't have to go under the bridge. She's a sex offender who TWICE failed to follow registration laws and now refuses to go anywhere else to stay because it doesn't "suit her". While I don't particularly care to have sex offenders living under a bridge I can't help but wonder why Zman would be worried that she would be raped living with all those other sex offenders but he can't grasp why parents would be concerned about them living next door to their children.

Maybe it's his "thinking disorder" that's at fault. He claims sex offenders are judged guilty before being tried and you can't believe the media because they lie. He also claims:

HEARSAY ALONE IS LITERALLY NAILING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO THE WALL

And:

Well, that is the problem, the media has force fed you lies, so has the media, John Walsh (who is an admitted sex addict), Mark Lunsford (who had child porn on his machine when Jessica went missing, and his son has since been busted for molesting a child, but walked free), and politicians. The sheeple believe anything that is force fed to them, even if it's a lie.

And:

Shut the hell up Mark! You were out of the house at some skanks house that night instead of taking care of Jessica like a REAL father would do. I wish someone one look into the child porn you had on your machine, and put you in prison where you belong

And:

Maybe they should read this article, which shows CHILD PORN was on Mark Lunsfords machine when Jessica went missing. It seems everyone is trying to bury that, but, I won't let it be buried.

And:

We need to stop letting rage filled idiots like John Walsh, Mark Lunsford or Marc Klass make laws. People not thinking clearly created idiotic laws, that has been proven by history.

Seemingly oblivious to the fact that none of those men MADE laws. They didn't sign them into effect, they didn't vote them into effect, they didn't enact any laws. They merely lobbied for their beliefs. The same way this idiot with a big mouth does.

John Couey constantly asked for help! Did he ever receive it? No, why not? If you would've got him treatment a long time ago when he asked for it, Jessica would still be here.

Seemingly obvious to the fact that Mark Lunsford didn't even know John Couey before he abducted, raped and buried his daughter alive.

This man is another John Walsh who is, IMO, exploiting his daughters death for fame and money. He was nothing before all this occurred. It's about torturing as many people as possible, when you need to accept some blame as well for leaving your daughter at home that night while you went out to a bar/girl friends home, AND LEFT THE DOORS UNLOCKED!!!

Seemingly oblivious to the fact that Jessica was not left alone and it is not uncommon for a single man to leave his child with her grandparents while he stays at his girlfriends.

Because those people are not informed, and will believe anything this idiot says. But, you have to question his motives, and also what about the child porn he had when Jessica went missing?

And:

If this is about accountability, then why don't they further investigate the child porn Mark had on his machine when Jessica went missing? Mark is trying to be another John Walsh and exploit his daughters death to make some quick easy money, IMO.

And:

And why hasn't anybody brought up the issue that Mark had CHILD PORN on his machine when they checked it, yet it magically vanished?

And:

There was also child porn on his machine when Jessica went missing, which magically vanished. Why was he not investigated for that?

And:

I DEMAND "JUSTICE!" IF THIS MAN MUST FACE PRISON, THEN GO ARREST MARK LUNSFORD AND GIVE HIM A PRISON CELL RIGHT NEXT TO THIS MAN!

And:

Your whole family is a basket case!! You are just looking for a scapegoat to blame, when you are responsible for taking care of your children, not the police.

But the strangest one of all:

Why must people always find a SCAPEGOAT to blame instead of taking responsibility for their negligence and irresponsibility? Why? STOP PUSHING THE BLAME OFF TO OTHER PEOPLE FOR YOUR STUPIDITY!

Zman the king of blame gaming accusing other people of scapegoating? Now those are but a few of the examples, I could point you to well over 500 instances where he has said things like this. It is now rampant amongst the blame-gaming sex offender activists who no longer report it as "once there was a news story that said this" no, now it has become a cold hard 'FACTOID'.

A statement of presumed fact that people believe to be true because they hear it repeated over and over

And yet, way back when......Zman knew that it wasn't true.

Dear Mr. Gelman,

This is to confirm my prior representations to you that Mr. Lunsford's computer was seized from his home at the time of the disappearance as part of a routine investigation. The computer was examined by the Citrus County Sheriff's Office. They found no evidence of possession of child pornography on the computer. Please feel free to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Richard D. Ridgway
Assistant State Attorney

Zman has known all along that what he was saying wasn't true, it just suited his purposes to say otherwise. He prefers to point at and blame other people for his predicament rather than himself. In fact, he just doesn't know WHO to blame, he just knows it's someone else not him. Never him. I guess everything that has befallen him is all the fault of the evil vigilante bloggers. Like perhaps Stitches who went to SOA and said "People can relate to Walsh and Lunsford, don't attack them or people will hate you for it" and was subsequently attacked for telling the truth. So then how would you explain this?

This is how you solve problems, all sides should get together, and as adults, talk about all the issues, good and bad, and help solve the problem, instead of passing blame from one side to the other. Maybe when Perverted-Justice, AbsoluteZeroUnited and others see this, then we can help solve the sexual abuse issues.

Hosted by: The Fallen One (ReFORM Radio)

Title: Ep. 8: Barriers to ReFORM Featuring "Valigator"

You can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Valerie told you the same thing regarding the nasty things all the blame gamers say about Walsh and Lunsford. And of course you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that SHE is one of the people trying to force sex offenders out of neighborhoods and under the Bridge. Perhaps you talked to the wrong person after all Zman? Oh and by the way, you left the background out of your "heartless bastards" graphic. No worries, I fixed it for you.

Prevention 101

It's quite simple really.

Don't do the crime and then you'll have nothing to complain about.

"Online molesters do not appear to be stalking unsuspecting victims but rather continuing to seek youths who are susceptible to seduction"

From: "Online Predators and their Victims"

How many people remember the days of Rookiee? He explained best how it all works. How he and his pedo pals didn't lie about what they were, how old they were, or what they were after. The other pedofreaks explain which victims they target. The importance of this study is that it confirmed what we already knew and that many people who don't understand what the dregs of society are up to don't..... The stereotypical image of an internet predator doesn't fit with reality. Take a look here if you have any doubts about that. In fact.....this is what the study said:

“Most Internet-initiated sex crimes involve adult men who are open about their interest in sex,” Wolak adds. “The offenders use instant messages, e-mail and chat rooms to meet and develop intimate relationships with their victims. In most of the cases, the victims are aware that they are talking online with adults.”

and

"most online sex offenders are adults who target teens and seduce victims into sexual relationships. They take time to develop the trust and confidence of victims, so that the youth see these relationships as romances or sexual adventures. The youth most vulnerable to online sex offenders have histories of sexual or physical abuse, family problems, and tendencies to take risks both on- and offline, the researchers say."

We talked about how they choose their victims here

The paedophiles themselves tell us that they specifically target and prey upon disadvantaged families.

Bill Evans explains:

How many times have you seen posters here talk about having y/fs from happy, loving homes? Those boys don't need to turn to someone outside the family for support. I have had a couple of y/fs from those sort of homes, but we never had the kind of close friendship I usually develop with kids from dysfunctional familes.

The kids from good homes are just along for the fun, but kids from dysfunctional homes, or no home, want a whole lot more...

Or as Descartes put it:

BLs who have no criminal record can work with boys, but probably not the boys that they would dream of working with. The BLs who have boy-filled lives aren't taking a bunch of adorable boys on fun camping trips in the woods.

They are working with boys who are extremely poor, who have serious physical and/or emotional problems and who are far from being the object of most BLs' fantasies.

Exploiting a Minor is a Major Offense Project Safe Childhood

If it weren't so tragic

"And I watched as they invented a whole new problem.....isn't that cool? If you're running out of things to do to sex offenders invent a new problem.......we have internet predators -- oh my goodness -- it's an epidemic -- these internet predators oh my gosh they're reaching their hands right through the screen and grabbing your children. Except that the federal government commissioned studies on the incidence of internet predators and they came up with exactly the opposite of what the government wanted to hear -- that it really isn't that much of a problem -- that mostly it's teen on teen goofing around and that most of the men on the internet are not lying about their age. And the girls who are falling for this are girls who unfortunately come from dysfunctional families and are reaching out to anyone for that love....But that's not what the legislators wanted to hear, so the American Public didn't hear it either."

---- Cheryl Griffiths

This suppressed study - available here - and kept top secret from the American public on the world wide web.... tells quite a different story than Cheryl and Derek Logue's distorted interpretations. It says that 97% of solicitations were by strangers, 48% by minors, 24% were regarded as "very or extremely upsetting or frightening" and 49% were not reported. The study also concluded that the offenders only pretended to be teenagers 5% of the time and still "identities are easy to disguise on the internet so the solicitors may not have been the age or gender they claimed to be"

While we know that children who have previously been abused make the easiest targets, Cheryl seems to regard it as acceptable as long as it is they who are the targeted victims.

"most online sex offenders are adults who target teens and seduce victims into sexual relationships. They take time to develop the trust and confidence of victims, so that the youth see these relationships as romances or sexual adventures. The youth most vulnerable to online sex offenders have histories of sexual or physical abuse, family problems, and tendencies to take risks both on- and offline, the researchers say."

Some recommendations include:

"Be clear about why sex with underage adolescents is wrong. Offender and potential offenders need to hear a clear message that nonforcible sex with underage adolescents violates the social responsibility adults have toward youth for objective mentoring and custodianship"

Contrary to Tikibug's assertion that the government has no right to tell someone when they are old enough to have sex, and Walter Howard's claim that children "need to be taught how to love" This study says:

"Youths need candid, direct discussions about seduction and how some adults deliberately evoke and then exploit the compelling feelings that sexual arousal can induce. Even young adolescents should be given basic information about the inappropriateness of romantic advances from adults. This information should include reassurances that it is normal to have strong sexual feelings but wrong for adults to provoke or exploit these feelings, especially with youths who are inexperienced in coping with sexual desire and intimate relationships"

Another key finding;

"A considerable number of online child molesters also possess child pornography and child pornography production is an important element in many cases, including situations where offenders solicit victims to produce sexual images of themselves"

Nationwide, federal prosecutors have indicted 2,289 defendants in online child solicitation and pornography cases this year. But I suppose Cheryl Griffiths would agree with the bold idiocy of Zman when he said

They could be protecting the country with their hacking skills or something, yet they want to go after defenseless child predators

The Justice Department's Project Safe Childhood has launched a new National Public Awareness Campaign. They've produced some amazing videos, not only aimed at educating potential targets of predators but also aimed at those who offend, a very nice warning of the consequences of preying on vulnerable children.

To stop this problem from becoming more pervasive than it is, we need three elements coming together. We need education, we need prevention, and we need enforcement. Project Safe Childhood pulls all those elements together to make sure we are keeping America's children safe.

"Could've should've would've"

Robert is a member of Sosen. He's a troubled man from his own account. He is a pedophile who has molested many children though it was never discovered by authorities.

Robert29 was busted for possession of child pornography on his laptop while crossing the border into Canada and is now a registered sex offender who struggles with his desires for children to the point he recently considered castration as an option. He said:

I'm not a DOCTOR but I have told this forum every thing in my life about my sexual problem I have with underage kids and my porn problem. and since 2005 win i got arrested for porn I have been trying everything to get over this problem I'm even on Risperdal and fluoxetine used to treat pedophilia and it helps some I don't have the fantasies and desires like i did before but i still HADE them 2-3 times a week i have not looked at underage porn in over 3 years but i still fantasies about it so i have been looking for something to help me with the fantasies i have looked into castration but i don't think i have to go that far so i started looking for some thing to lower my sex drive and i found this web site about liquorice (licorice) and testosterone and found out that licorice (glycyrrhiza glabra) can lower your testosterone and libido so i ordered licorice supplement from natures way and for just over 2 weeks i have been taking 3 450mg capsules a day and it seems to be helping me with my fantasies for about the past 9 days i have not been thinking of sex like before I'm not saying it must be the licorice BUT that's the only thing i have changed in a month and in 2 weeks ill update the forum on how I'm doing with it

Clearly this was a desperate cry for help, but what's even more alarming is the lack of response or concern he received. Some of his many statements he's made while at Sosen include:

we started to find teenage boys for that we hade sex with about 6 boys we all so hade a computer and i was looking at child porn just about every night

I was never a danger to any child i was arrested back in 2005 for teenage porn i hade on my laptop

i never did anything to a child and i never wont to but do to porn on the net im sentenced for life

I have posted a lot of fax about myself fax that i can prove by people i know and people i new wen i was a teen some are victims these fax can put me in jail for a long time and i have been a member for over 1 year and i have not been arrested

I'm not saying what i did is ok i have done other things with teens the courts don't know about what i am saying for what i was charged with why am i senates for life wen its ok for people on drugs to be around kids

I have ben diagnostic with PEDOPHILIA........some of you wen you did your sex crime that was it a one time thing you never think of doing it again PEDOPHILIA i think of it all the time.

i did report being on yahoo im msn im and paltalk and thay also have all my e-mail addresses so if thay have any problems thay can come and talk to me im not hiding anything

And yet, interestingly enough, when someone did report him to the authorities, he came back to tell them about it and to admit that no, he had not registered all his email addresses. His responses from the old-timer Sosenites i.e. Rod Wagner and Zman were to tell him not to ever let the authorities search his computer again. Only one voice, a new one spoke up to say:

Every time someone reoffends it hurts our cause, not to mention another victim. I hope that you have no anger towards those who "told". Since you are innocent (and even if you weren't), I hope you are grateful to those people who cared enough to say something. At first I was like, gee, you can't talk on this forum without someone telling on you, but then I realized that that is a prison mentality. If someone on this forum prevents a new victim by ratting me out, then that is great. Do it anonymously, but just do something to help us stay straight. And if there are moles on our website who are doing the telling, as long as it is a legit "concern" then I wouldn't be mad at them either. They are trying to stop someone from being a victim at our hands and that is a good thing no matter who it comes from.

Why was the CEO pretend 'child advocate' not addressing this herself? I suppose it's because Sosen is not a 'support and education' network. It is an activist group. Their mission is to change laws. Linda Pehrson:

This is not an offender therapy group. My husband falls into the "grooming" type of offense. Been there done that, bought the T shirt. It is not my job to worry in this group if an offender is lying to himself..That is between him and his therapist we are here to fight the insane hysteria and dracion SO laws.

Successful activists know and understand that in order to bring about change......whatever it may be, you must first change society's opinion of whatever the topic is. Sosenites only believe in ramming victim bashing denial down society's throat and expecting people to love them for it. Here's another example. Robert29 asked the question

how many of you have stopped to think

1 Hade i not got arrested how far word i of gone?

2 How many Victims word i have?

3 word i of STOPPED with out going to jail?

Me I think of these Qs all the time hade you read my story you will see I do have more then 1 Victim and it was more then just cp I never did anything with anyone under 13yo but the porn i was in to was 8-12years old and if i did not get arrested in Canada for cp ill probley have More victims and the ages might be under 13

Robert even further clarified for them what he meant and states that since he's been caught he wouldn't do it again for two reasons, neither of which have any recognition of damage to his victims.

IF you never got arrested do you think it wod of just ben a one time thing or do you think you might of did it more?
me yes it was more then a one time thing it went on for about 9-10 years and i know if i did not get arrested it probley wod of went on thear is 2 things that changed me
1 Jail is not a place for anyone to be and i do not wanna go back
2 MY loved one I dont wanna let them down like i did

Robert got a few responses. Derek told him "Could've should've would've", Zman plead the fifth, and nkrso told Robert that he didn't even HAVE a victim at all, it was only child porn that's all. One voice, so different than the usual Sosen mumbo-jumbo interjected... Static. He encouraged Robert to bring this up in treatment and although the precedent had already been set in Sosen for how these things would be handled - 'ignore it or delete it' - he didn't follow normal procedure and let nkrso's statement slide. No he addressed it. As it should be:

Nkrso- It's easy to say that when someone "merely" views CP, they aren't victimizing anyone. But, the truth is that the child is actually being victimized all over again every time the CP is viewed. Your opinion on this is something you definitely want to discuss with your therapist. If you have a good one, he/she will show you how seeing CP that way is actually just minimizing abusive behavior. I'm not picking on you- everyone is at different points on the "treatment path" and I'm just trying to point you in the right direction. It's thoughts like that that make it easier to start down the path toward re-offense.

That was the voice of a man who Derek said never "fit in" at Sosen. Derek is beside himself simply because Static has chosen to voice his opinion here as though there is some vast conspiracy in the works. And yet, I'm gonna play nice and be perfectly honest here. "Static and Stitches" aren't in cahoots. He's simply a man here stating his views, and I'm simply a woman who is listening, sometimes agreeing and perhaps sometimes not. But there's one thing about it, he's not bashing victims of crimes, he's not minimizing or denying on their behalf and he's certainly not whining and moaning about imaginary Nazi's.

He's simply trying to help RSO's in the way that he believes will be most effective. The difference in his way and Derek's way, or Linda's, Tiki's, Tmax or Tom's is that their way has been done for years and it's never gotten them anywhere. Trying to keep non-offending victims or their advocates out of their forum is a sure fire way to assure they'll stay in there, long after they've been bored to tears. It's time to clean up the House of Sosen. It's time to clean up the 'art of RSO advocacy'. It can and will be done or else Sosen will cease to exist. Personally I think it's too late but you never know, maybe someone will wake them up before it's too late.

We Have the Facts

"I have challenged AZUStitches77’s claim that all sex offenders are rapists or one day will be rapists by asking him to provide factual data to support these absurd statements. To date, AZUStitches has not provided any factual data. Why?"

So speaks the "Truthseeker" SOClear Media's newest and brightest sex offender defender and distorted out of control harassing fool. You may recognize him as ApparitionZ, the guy who hits all the YouTube videos with inane blurbs of nonsense reminiscent of the tactics used by the nodding pedo heads of '07.

Why have I not provided the factual data he requested? Why, it's quite simple. I never said that. Truthseeker, however, DID claim that the majority of registered sex offenders are on the registry for such things as "urinating in public" (that's his favorite argument btw), mooning people, having consensual sex, or in his case "merely looking at a few dirty pictures". That he seems to have absolutely no realization of the seriousness of his crime is great cause for concern regarding the likelihood of him re-offending. After all.....it was just some sexual pleasure at the expense of sexually abused children, wasn't it? He's become the newest sex offender vigilante on YouTube making wild unsupportable accusations and making a total nuisance of himself. Look:

"AZU = Murderer"

"So why do these vigilantes believe public urinators and teenagers having consensual sex should be murdered? Answer : they are scum."

"AZU believes in murdering children for playing doctor. What a sicko!"

"Oh, so you guys murder gay people too, interesting."

"I hear antipaedo used to make his own child porn, be warned!"

"I have proof that vigilantes burned down the home of a former offender in Tennessee and wound up murdering his wife! One of a number of violent attacks by the PJ Cult."

Remember how Zman used to go around to blogs and news sites always repeating "Educate yourself! Visit my blog and learn the REAL FACTS"? Remember that? Well Truthseeker has his own mantra that doesn't even make sense. Taking information from various places he tries to put it together into a new FACT.

"According to the Department Of Justice , less than 8% of sex offenders re-offend and most sexual abuse is committed by someone who is not on a registry which debunks the myth of “stranger danger” in the majority of cases."

Does that statement make sense? Does he understand what he said? Let's listen to the Truthseekers mantra, it goes like this:

Now, let's listen to him explain how news stories are FACTUAL as long as they are on Zman's site.......but not if you just go out and read them yourself of course.

I am a vigilante cult leader for voicing my opinion. That opinion makes me 'violent'. So what does Truthseeker's make him? A ticking time bomb? Not only does he believe that Stitches77 voicing opinions over child sexual abuse is more dangerous that his child molesting pals.....molesting children but he even denies child sexual abuse even exists! NOOOO You weren't abused! Your child wasn't groomed and molested! It's all a myth, an overblown hysterical biased media report to make you think you were raped when you were only mooned. On one of his podcasts he goes so far as to claim the majority of sex offenders are on the registry for urinating in public and demands to know why we aren't putting women on the registry for dressing skimpily at the beach. He says:

There are a variety of reasons why a person would view images deemed as child porn. It may simply be out of research as in the case of Pete Townshend (”The Who”) or to help authorities find the people who produce such materials. Factually, most who only view these images do not go on to hurt anyone.

Completely disregarding:

"Experts have often wondered what proportion of men who download explicit sexual images of children also molest them. A new government study of convicted Internet offenders suggests that the number may be startlingly high: 85 percent of the offenders said they had committed acts of sexual abuse against minors, from inappropriate touching to rape."

Well he does have the facts after all doesn't he? What's a few dirty pictures? I guess he wants to make you think "a few dirty pictures" is nothing really to be concerned about, I mean after all he did it, and look at what a nice guy HE is. Maybe he should have read this:

U.S. criminal investigator Flint Waters works undercover in the war on child pornography. And just like the other 800 licensed investigators working the internet, he goes for stress counseling often. Is it any wonder why? He describes some of the recent things he's found.

"A video of a toddler on a changing table who is penetrated by an adult male."

"Pictures of a young girl, 6 or 7 years old, nude, tied to a chair and being penetrated by a dog."

How dare he try to sugar coat child sexual abuse, or ANY sexual abuse for that matter? These people actually believe that they can and will change people's minds about them by dismissing as insignificant the horror of what it's really like. They call victims "professional victims" while claiming that THEY are victims. "Oh they should just pick themselves up and go on and stop being victims" I cannot even count the number of RSO activists and pedo activists alike who have made that statement, showing clearly that they have no understanding whatsoever of the true effects of being sexually abused and how it differs from other crimes. Tom Madison claims less than 1% of RSO's are pedophiles, a completely made up figure, he either made it up himself or someone LIED to him and he believed it. I tend to think he made it up.

Listen:

Ok, we want the truth. Let's talk truth. He finally said something that was true:

Yes that's true. I did say that the DOJ did NOT report that 95% of all sex crimes are committed by someone not on the registry. I said it because it's true. We've been harping on this for a year now and they cannot get it through their heads.

A recidivism rate does not equal a crime rate. Furthermore that 3.5% recidivism statistic was spread out over a period of three years, it was not an annual figure. It was not a measurement of the percentage of crimes committed. It was a measurement of re-offending. The DOJ report DOES NOT SAY how many people convicted of a new sex crime in any given year are or are not already on the sex offender registry. You cannot take one statistic and force it into meaning something it does not mean.

For example, let's say you have say 1000 men in 2007 that were RSO's that you followed. Let's say 3% of them re-offended. That doesn't mean that 97% of all sex crimes were committed by someone not already convicted of a sex crime. The only conclusion you can factually draw from that scenario is that 3% re-offended and 97% didn't. You can bet that there were other RSO's in that same time period who re-offended after a varied period of time. But the study wasn't measuring them. The recidivism rate released by the Department of Justice does not mean what they say it means. I don't know how many other ways to say it where they can understand. I know they want to believe it, I know they DO believe it, but it's because the only people they are listening to are people who spend their time trying to find some reason, some excuse, some something somebody anybody to blame except for themselves.

When Tom Madison goes on National TV and says the things he says, he makes a fool of himself in more ways than just losing control and acting like a wild and crazy impulsive and angry sex offender. He makes himself look stupid, because he is uninformed. He can't even read and comprehend a DOJ report.

However, occasionally you find a mind that's a notch up from these other guys. Let's pay attention to him for a moment. Vanguard a staff member of Sosen doesn't get it either but I admit he's closer than the others. He tried to help his people out, and I dare say he got nowhere. They didn't want to hear what he had to say and he didn't push the issue. He's well aware I'm sure of how irritable they get when someone disagrees with them. Even Derek got in on it. I'm going to show you the mentality of these people..... the sheer brain power in action. Read for yourself some snippets of their conversation:

blueshift:

"This is some thing i got in my mail today, form eAdvoate I think. This could be a holy grail question and and answer will debunk or limits the ligamancy of the registry. Its a question I have seen asked many times, but never in this way.

"whether the risk of offending For an ex-felon ever becomes similar, or equal to, the risk of offending for someone who has never offended at all? If so, after what period of time since the last arrest or conviction does this occur?"

So when is a former sexual offender's risk the same as the general population?"

jean A SOSEN Staff Member:

"just the fact that the chances of someone not on the registry offending is 95% and someone who is on the registry is less than 5% tells me that a former sex offender's risk is already less than the general population"

oldman_inmaine:

"I pointed this statistical probability out in a local newspaper once while in a conversation with a poster called stitches. They were quite offended at the idea that I would suggest that their own mathematical formula indicated that they represented a far greater danger to the general population than an ex-sex offender.

So yes the next time you get into a heated discussion with some person that is Downing the ex-sex offender just remember the probabilities of that person crossing the tracks in your direction is a little higher than the probability that you may back step and recommit a crime. laughing

Any mathematical geniuses out there?"

flowergirl_1970:

"Harris/Hanson (one or the other or both) out of Canada looked at this and found that the risk reduces to 0% (I think) 15-20years post release"

Vanguard:

"Yes, the general public is 95% more likely to commit a new sex offense. BUT... there are less than a million registered offenders in a county with 300 million people, and there are only tens of thousands of sex offensed committed.

Let's say there are 100,000 registerable sex offenses committed per year. That leaves the following:

5% committed by RSO's, or 5,000 offenses. Out of a million offenders, that makes 1 in 200 offenders commit a new crime.

95% committed by non-RSO's, or 95,000 offenses. Out of 300 million people, that makes 1 in 3,150 non-RSO's commit a new crime.

Therefore, the anti's could use the argument that RSO's are over 15 times likely to commit a new sex offense."

fallenone:

"There is no real way to do this without complex math.

Somehow I think they are coming to that conclusion the wrong way, by counting recidivism as the basis for assuming how many RSOs actually re-offend in the given year. The DOJ study found the number of sex offenders in the study who re-offended was about 550 of 9000 in 3 years, while 3500 or so of the 240,000 NON-RSOs committed a sex crime. That's six times the number of non-sex offenders committing a sex crime as sex offenders, not counting first time offenders"

Well thanks Vanguard and Derek, you see Derek using YOUR numbers you provided from the 1994 DOJ report on Recidivism, you are correct that the non-Rso felons committed SIX times the number of offenses, but what does that mean really? It might be in your favor if there were the same number of criminals being measured. But there weren't. The non-Rso's made up 27 times the number of Rso's. Meaning one out of 16 sex offenders committed a new sex crime and one out of 68 non sex offender criminals did. And if we add Vanguard's calculation into the mix, there were only 1 out of over 3000 that were not any type of criminal at all.

If you want to make a difference pull your head out of the sand, acknowledge that there are seriously damaging crimes committed against people, and that your figures you're trying to pass off as FACT are not fact at all but a manipulation of statistics to try and make them say something they do not say. The Washington study does indeed say that 19% of all new sex crime convictions resulting in prison time the offender is already on the registry. The New York State study that the Reverend Hess child porn sex offender likes to reference also states a low recidivism rate over a limited amount of time. It also states quite clearly that 25% of the men in that study had a previous sex crime conviction prior to the most current offense that landed them in jail. Get your facts straight. You do not have facts. You do not have truth. Tom Madison is uninformed, and you're all acting like imbeciles.

Or, you could always stick with the same old story you've been using and continue to look like pissed off unrepentant victim bashing sex offenders who will LIE and LIE and LIE and are never to be trusted. I kinda think that's what you guys will do. None of you are smart enough to know you got it wrong, and even if you were, there's not a one of you that has the balls to stand up and say "Stitches is right guys, let's go back to the drawing board".

Everyone has a breaking point

FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM - NOW!!!!
Posted On Sunday, August 10, 2008 at 1:25:00 AM by ZMan!

STAND UP AND FIGHT - FOR YOUR FREEDOM

Imagine with 630,000 sex offenders, not including family, could do?



This is in the words of Zman, the radical, impulsive, brainless registered sex offender activist we've all come to know so well. Yes, folks, he's over on his blog attempting to incite violence. He's encouraging convicted child molesters to gang together and RISE UP against society.

I believe the impetus behind this rash act of his came from one of SoClear Media's newest pissed off sex offenders TMaximus. Listen:

Yes, indeed. Society has reached the breaking point. We're sick and tired of people thinking they can abuse our children and then whine and moan about the consequences. We're sick and tired of liberal wrist slapping judges who won't give an appropriate sentence for the molestation of a child. Yes, we need mandatory sentences. And for the most part, what we need is not residency restrictions or sex offender registries. I believe it is clear from the lack of intelligence and the rampant blame gaming arising from the sex offender community, that what we need is life imprisonment without possibility of parole.

This is Zman's call to fight those who oppose baby rapers



And this is what Zman wants them to do




Why even Derek Logue is getting in on the action.

To members of Absolute Zero United, its all fun and games to harass former offenders. Usually I'm all fun and games in taking it back to them. But not today. This is no fucking game. The label of "sex offender" has gotten so serious that people are willing to KILL in order to avoid the stigma. Any troll reading this better think long and hard about this article, because this is not a fucking game, but a matter of life and death

He then goes on to quote, in stupid RSO fashion, an entire news article. Let's sum it up for you.

The complaint tells a chilling story of a disaffected man who had thought about committing a random shooting for the past four or five years and prepared by stashing weapons in the woods.

"Johnson finally decided to execute his plan last week after suspecting that a woman he had recently sexually assaulted would tell her ordeal to police, the complaint said."

Johnson said he lured the woman near the bridge the evening before the shooting, sexually assaulted her and tried to talk her out of calling police. He decided to wait there and kill any law enforcers who arrived to investigate. When none did, he returned home.

He left his home the next day and when he returned, his mother told him police were looking for him. Expecting to go to jail and fearing the label of sex offender, he decided "he had nothing to lose and the only power he had in this life was `to take.'"

Now Derek, believes that when the man started shooting teenagers at random, the government is at fault for being "vigilantes" making laws that he doesn't agree with. This man had already been planning to do something like this for years, why in the world would Derek choose a psychopath to try to make his argument.......that isn't even a rational argument.....and will only do more harm to himself and "his people" than if he'd just kept his mouth shut to begin with. He's impulsive, which is probably why he's an RSO today. If he knew WHY this is an inappropriate tactic for a convicted child molester to use, then he would most likely have enough self-control to have not molested a child to begin with.

And yet the trolls over at Absolue Zero United think its all fun and games? You condemned someone for merely acknowledging the possibility it was inevitable? Well here is proof it is not only possible, not only inevitable, but a COLD HARD REALITY! Do you STILL think this all a fun game, Stitches?

You are quite mistaken Mr. Logue. This is no game. It has never been a game. Right now in this country there are an estimated 27,160,752 ADULT female survivors of child sexual abuse and 12,220,488 ADULT male survivors for a total of almost 40 million ADULT survivors. You want to call up your 630,000 and incite violence against those whose only desire is to protect children from predators? Bring it on, Derek. Bring it on. You aren't doing anything to create empathy to your cause, you are making it worse Derek. This is what people think about those who abuse children.

HT to ~**Violet Leaves**~

What they've become

In 1987 Dennis Ferguson kidnapped 3 children from their home.

He kept them in his home and molested them for 3 days.

He was convicted of 19 charges including kidnapping, sodomy, gross indecency, indecent dealing and carnal knowledge. Dennis committed these acts along with his lover Alexandria George Brookes. Dennis received 14 years in prison, Alexandria 11.

The judge in the case said his chances for rehabilitation were 'nil' and that Dennis regarded pedophilia as normal behavior.

Nevertheless, he was given a second chance wasn't he? When his sentence was up, he was released back into the community. Not only did he break the terms of his parole, but he molested a 5 year old girl within 2 years of his release.

NOW, in 2008, right as he was set to stand trial for molesting this girl, Judge Hugh Botting has said that no trial can go forward because pre-trial publicity made it impossible for this repeat baby raper to get a 'fair' trial. In other words, he let him go free. HE LET HIM GO!

Where is the justice for this girl? What are the protections for the community and his future victims? He's a filthy non-repentant baby raping pedophile, do they honestly think he'll not do it again? There's many outrageous, and frankly unbelievable things going on with this case. Google Dennis Ferguson and you'll see what I mean.

But the icing on the cake is ol' Zman himself. Just when you thought you'd heard the last of him. He's allllllll worked up over it, oh my yes indeed. You see, the residents of the community in which this repeat baby raper has been placed are rather angry. A meeting was held in which 100 people were expected to attend. Instead 1000 showed up to protest this man living amongst them. They don't want him next door to their children. Can you blame them? But Zman asks, "Is this what we have become?"

"Thanks to the media and politicians for spreading BS lies about sex offenders, and people like John Walsh, Mark Lunsford and the other idiots, this is what we have become! I wonder if this is similar to what it was like when Jesus Christ was attacked by the venomous snakes who wanted to crucify him? Like in the days of Noah, so shall it be when the son of man is revealed. Amazing how one man can cause so much anger! Come quickly Lord Jesus!"

WOW, that pretty much rivals his previous insane babblings where he wondered why people couldn't just leave the "defenseless child predators" alone. Zfreak was asked just what he meant comparing this repeat baby raper to Jesus Christ. And oh, he tried to clear it up, only to say the exact same thing he had already said!

"I posted it to try to show how society is acting today towards someone, in this case Dennis, and how people treated Jesus back in the days which were similar to how they are today."

"I am not trying to say Jesus is like this Dennis person, there is no comparison. I was comparing how the people treated these men, like vicious snakes."

He posted a movie of the crowds raising hell over the Menace, along with a video clip from The Passion of the Christ showing the crucifixion scene so that all the simple minded RSO's and apologists could moan and groan with him, that yes, yes indeed Zman, we are treated just like Jesus Christ was. We are stripped and scourged and hung on a cross until dead.

He is comparing the treatment of Jesus Christ to the angry protests of parents who have just had a repeat baby raper released amongst them! Well, how very apropos. < /sarcasm >

Fortunately, the majority of the world is not as dim-witted as Zman, who routinely says he wasn't actually guilty of molesting a child BUT he hasn't re-offended. Or of this judge who

"failed to give sufficient weight to the interest society has in seeing that those accused of serious criminal offences are amenable to the justice system"........Appeals Motion

Let us hope that this stupid, idiotic decision by Judge Hugh Botting is overturned and a trial for Dennis goes forth. Otherwise, it is setting a dangerous precedent. "If you get enough attention after raping babies we'll let you go free since there's a danger of prejudice" Yeah, some group of pedos is probably already putting their filthy little heads together to work this one out.

One Queensland Mother said this regarding Dennis

“didn’t deserve to live in a nice place like this”
“He lost his rights and privileges when he hurt the kids”
“He should be tied up to a meat ants’ nest”

I agree

Other people chanted "Get him out! Get him out!" They held up signs calling him Dennis the Menace. They worry for their children's safety, you see. And Zman? Well we know where his sympathies lie. I think he forgot this part

“The supreme right is the protection of the community."

“When they offend in such horrific ways their rights are going to be impinged upon."

“Some will remain threats until the day they die."

Dennis Ferguson is one of those.

A Damn Thing

God grant me the serenity

to accept the things

I cannot change,

courage

to change the things I can,

and the wisdom

to know the difference.

We think of those powerful words as "belonging" to 12-step programs, but those came after this was written, and these words actually speak to everyone, no matter your beliefs or your troubles. Let's see how they apply to us.

We frequently see activists...those out trying to create change of some sort make some very similar statements.

From the pedophile activists....the now infamous Rob

You will never silence Us. We will fight for our Rights and there is Not a damn thing that you can do about It !

Michael Gregg aka Zman - RSO Activist

The laws don't work. When will people ever realize no matter how tough on crime, all the zero tolerance, all the registries in the world will not prevent a murder from murdering, a thief from stealing, a dealer from dealing, a user from using, a rapist from raping....

Bill Evans

They can't change a damn thing. Paedophilia has existed since the beginning of time and will exist until the end of time. It's part of the mechanism for the survival of the species.

jd420 - self-described "infantfucker"

Their 'power' couldn't stop a damn thing... and an entire generation has grown up in a paederotically-integrated (or actually, baby-boy-assfucking) world.

Derek Logue - RSO Activist

When it comes down to it, these invasive gestapo laws won't stop the rapes, the molestations, and so forth, but only serves to embitter a specific populace which can only serves to further promote this cause

These are completely false statements. Yes there have been pedofreaks as far back as we know of, that doesn't mean we should approve of it and accept it. Nor does it mean that we won't find a cure for it. Lots of research is being done in this area, a lot of new discoveries have been made that at first glance may not appear to be significant, yet I believe they will add up to a cure for this horrible affliction and most likely during our lifetime.

So no, in the first instance we cannot do anything about the fact that pedophiles exist, not us, not you and I. But someone can. In the meantime we can have the courage to confront the issue, the pedophile activism currently underway, the active child predators, we can do something about those things. And we have the wisdom to know the difference between those things as well.

Will there always be crime? Of course there will, that is a given. But we don't sit back and say 'oh well' someone will always do it so it's pointless to make something illegal or to insist on consequences. We can have the courage to change their activism, to make it more honest. We can leave them no out. We can have the courage to stand up for children and do the right thing, we also have the wisdom to know the difference between those things.

So when Dylan Thomas, the Webmaster of BoyChat and the author of the No More Victims Act of 2007 says something like this

The fact of the matter is, we hold all the cards. We (speaking on the broad scale) have sex with their children. And when they arrest us and put us in jail, a zillion more of us are still having sex with their children. And when they get us in therapy and "cure" us and teach us how not to "offend," a zillion more of us still slip through the cracks and still have sex with their children.

And there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

For every pedophile they arrest and put in jail, ten more are fucking their children.

Or when WP says

I've said this a million times, Dylan and I always get slammed for it. No one wants to admit the fact that the idea of the "celibate paedophile" is a kite that jut won't fly because it implies we are sexless or without a sex drive something that isn't real. It also tells the world you're a lying idiot if you actually expect them to buy that horse shit, worse still, schizophrenic if you actually believe it yourself.

Or when Jason says

Masturbation has no known harmful effects on an otherwise healthy child. Even if a child were forcibly masturbated against his/her will, any harm would be minimal and quickly overcome if parents and the law took a sensible attitude toward the "assault"

We can only shake our heads in consternation at the sheer lunacy of these people. It's quite silly of them actually as everyone can clearly see that we CAN do something, we WILL do something and we ARE doing something.

Their responses to our critiques thus far have been anything from complete silence, to the standard pedofreak LAME response

I just LOVE children, why I'd never hurt children

to the pathological

"C" downloads child porn and picks up minors on the net please report this dangerous woman who is also aka Stitches

to the bizarre

Jesus was a pedophile although his actions were not illegal at the time. Laws have changed but it is not likely that God has changed what He considers to be a sin. He got it right the first time.

to the grotesque

Jessica was not tortured and her death comes across more as an assisted suicide than a murder.

to the frustrated

If any anti even comes with in spitting distance of me, they will be dead. They will no longer live. I will fucking kill them. So if they want to stay alive they can leave me alone.

The cognitively distorted

I don't advocate wanton violence. I don't believe in collateral damage. But I'm a firm believer in self-defense, and also a firm believer that the best defense against an irrational enemy is to put him down permanently.

The demented

The 'life' of 77Stitches_in_the_cunt. I don't remember where I heard that these females could be healed only with a good, extremely strong kick at the snatch.

And the really, really, really stupid

The reason why AZ and PJ won't post THEIR addresses or show their faces is because they'd have a big-rig through their homes the next day. There are plenty of truckers who'd love to tie those guys on both ends to the DOT bumpers and hit 10th gear. And nobody would ever find them again.

These are all excellent responses. Reactions such as these merely prove they are hysterical nut cases with no clear rebuttal to what we actually said that set them off to begin with. In fact, most times they don't even know or understand what it was we said. They read what they 'think' it says which sometimes leads them to make serious mistakes in their "knee jerk reactions".

When people like this make these outrageous remarks, radical attempts to change society or laws that are absolutely detrimental to children's safety I, for one, will be talking about it. I'll inform everyone I possibly can, I'll shout it from the rooftops if I have to. I WILL be heard, and I'll get others to help spread the message.....far and wide.

And there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

"A bit humiliated and ashamed"

That's what Alan Melchert said.

Melchert, a senior Western Australia sports administrator caught up with 89 other Australians in a recent child pornography bust dubbed Operation Centurion.

"I basically am a bit
humiliated and ashamed
that I've even looked
at images like this"

It is said that the images were not passive images, but rather children who were actively being abused.

Who were the men trading them? They ranged in age from 19 to 81 and included teachers, youth workers, a Federal Police officer and several men with previous sex crimes convictions.

The six-month joint operation by the Australian Federal Police and state police forces uncovered several cases of child molestation and highlighted the astonishing way in which pedophiles form secret communities in cyberspace and use the global reach of the internet to trade child exploitation images.

To date, 70 arrests have been made across Australia. A further 20 people have been issued with summonses to appear in court where they will be charged with possessing child exploitation material. More arrests are expected in coming weeks and months.

Dubbed Operation Centurion, the investigation was triggered after a hacker infiltrated a respectable European website and inserted 99 degrading and explicit images of young girls from eastern Europe, the US and Paraguay.

The site - which cannot be named for legal reasons - was besieged by an incredible 12 million hits in just 76 hours after word got around online pedophile networks that the images were available and the website's address was circulated.

Almost 150,000 different computer users from 170 countries accessed the otherwise obscure website, including Australians using 2883 computer IP addresses. Of those, 1513 had downloaded one or more images in the 76-hour period.

The Federal Police alone has assigned 300 officers who have devoted 13,000 hours to the case, and revealed that a total of 1 million images had been seized from computers, disks and memory sticks.

Watch here as a Blame Gamer calls Child pornography a "victimless crime"

Look at this, an unreleased study reveals that "85 percent of the CP offenders said they had committed acts of sexual abuse against minors, from inappropriate touching to rape." and which went undetected.

See how Jim Freeman the co-founder of SOHOPEFUL was busted in the "most sophisticated child pornography operation in recent memory" And don't miss Cheryl Griffiths the COO of Sosen trying to cover it up

Read here about The Common Thread between some of these men who do these things and the importance of finding who they are.

Then read the pedophiles opinions of children who are tortured and raped

And don't forget Zman's infamous "Defenseless Child Predators" remark. It's a classic.

A BIT humiliated and ashamed? A bit?

But we showed Empathy!

Some people may wonder why we continue to focus on those we have dubbed the "blame gamers".

So I'm going to tell you a little more about one of them.

Along with her husband she is the founder and director of Roar for Freedom and her name is

Betty Price aka amber_leaf1957

She's married to a registered sex offender named Michael Price aka Kiokwus, who plead guilty to sexually assaulting his daughter and now makes these conflicting statements:

1. "I didn't do it"
2. "It has been over 20 years since I committed my crime"
   

Betty is Michael's biggest defender and was herself molested as a child. On two separate occasions by two different people. No one ever discovered the abuse and Betty never told. Now at the age of 50 Betty says she's glad she never told.

It is a well known fact that burying trauma is the least healthy thing a person can do. Furthermore, "not telling" enables the offender to continue their behavior. And while you cannot blame a child for that, I can't help but wonder if Betty's abusers didn't also abuse other children. Chances are that they did.

Betty - the child - didn't have the knowledge or the maturity to know she should have told. Not only for her own emotional well-being but to also protect other children. We can't blame Betty the child for that. But we can blame Betty the activist for presuming she's knowledgeable enough about this issue to be going into elementary schools "educating" children about sexual abuse. Especially when she routinely makes statements such as this:

I can tell you this. I am glad that 42 and 37 years ago, I did not know to tell what had been done to me. I often wonder if that is why I am not a victim. No one told me to be a victim, no one told me I had been victimized. I am glad that people I have forgiven did not have their entire lives destroyed because of a grievous mistake

Betty is a woman with such severe Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that the only thing she can leave her house for is to visit her therapist, "educate" children, or give speeches at rally's. Something about this doesn't sound right, does it?

So let's look at her mission statement:

ROAR is an organization with the mission of uniting victims/survivors, sex offenders, and their family and friends.

ROAR's major goal is toward Education and Prevention of sexual abuse.

This is a nation wide campaign to educate society about the truths, rather than the myths about sex offenders, recidivism rates, and the effects that laws and ordinances have on sex offenders, their children, future generations, and society in general. Also to teach children, parents, educators and other persons how to prevent Child Sexual Abuse and if not prevented teach the child what to do, rather than carry this on their little shoulders.

Then Betty shows up on this little blog HERE and makes this statement:

Roar for Freedom is NOT about changing the laws

So I just can't help but wonder then what she meant by this:

I have someone teaching me about lobbying. If no money changes hands, I can go lobby on our behalf and we don't have to worry about a whole bunch of things. One of which, would be paying a lobbyist tons of money that we do not have. This person has lobbied many times. I am learning as quickly as I can.

Or this:

I am doing us as a 501 c 4 so that we will be allowed to Lobby. That is something we will have to learn and there are many places on the internet to help us to learn it. Lobbying, of course, is our one way to fight the laws. There are others, but I feel we will get our point across better with a bunch of us lobbying.

Or hey, how about this one:

As for actual help, one thing I am hoping to get done is a large grant for Roar that we can use to help our members financially, when things get hard.

Betty is a liar, Betty is a deceiver and manipulator, Betty is going into elementary schools in West Virginia teaching your children about child sexual abuse. What do you think about that?

They can treat is as such because all of America will allow them. This is why we need conferences/rallies and going in to schools to Educate. We have to get the word out.

Before Betty and Michael escaped from Florida they held a rally in Palm Bay. They printed up a brochure to hand out. Betty tried desperately to get therapists to speak at the rally but alas:

When Mike and I left SOSEN and started ROAR, the two were not doing things alike at all. When Mike and I organized the Palm Bay Rally, I called all over trying to get a therapist to speak at the Rally. The reason each of them stated for not speaking at the Rally was that the SOSEN site showed too much anger and absolutely no empathy.

Betty learned. Now she speaks of empathy whenever possible. She uses the words on her website, and in her group but it's empty words. She's using that word because she believes apparently that saying it will reflect that they are empathetic to victims. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Mike has the pamphlet that we did for the Rally we organized in Palm Bay. We would want the information on there from the website stating our Goals, showing victim empathy, the U.S. DOJ statistics and links, the PO Box number and my phone number here.

Well I have the pamphlet too. I think you would be interested in some of the wording of it. It was double sided tri-fold. So a total of 6 columns. 5 of which were completely devoted to how sex offenders are suffering or will be suffering should the law they were lobbying against be passed. One column had a bit about how to talk to your child who has been sexually abused. Let's look at that one:

When it comes down to cases of sexual abuse, it involves each and every member of the family. While the government focuses on doing as much damage to the offender, IE, long jail periods, long probationary periods, GPS monitoring etc, the children can both see and hear what is going on.

You may find the children have an anger they cannot explain. They may blame themselves for what happened. Your job is assure them they did nothing wrong nor were they the cause of what is going on. Utilize these feelings and teach the children to express what they feel inside, verbally, in pictures or written down. It is a very striking portrayal of the damage the government has caused under the guise of "saving the children". It shows those who need to know best just how their saving the children excuse has not worked, rather has adverse effects they don't even take into consideration.

And let's not forget the statistics she claims to "educate" people with. Straight off her 'educational' pamphlet:

96% of sex crimes committed by someone other than a previously known sex offender – Department of Justice, 1994

Betty didn't get that statistic from the DOJ. We talked about that statistic HERE and HERE. No she got it from the eadvocate website. And when someone showed up in her group and tried to explain about that website, this is what happened:

Zman:
Please visit the following and educate yourself:
http://www.geocities.com/eadvocate/issues/

McNulty:
It's in no way a objective source of information, its written by an offender who feels the laws have gone too far. He's just angry and distorts and manipulates information, showing only one side of the story and twisting to suite his goals. It's a source of misinformation not knowledge, although it is a real good case study about how offenders think they have it too hard and how offenders think everyone else is the problem

Betty Price:
I don't believe I have ever met such an ignorant person!!!!!!!!!!! Check out the links below. They have very good information. I also have a DVD three parter with a therapist in FL $!).00 and a Booklet for $5.00 s&h $6.95 They all have loads of information.

And then....McNulty was banned.

Betty the child sexual abuse "educator" makes comments like this

I was molested by two people, I was not molested by the 550,000 registered former sex offenders.

Seemingly oblivious to the at least 550,000 victims of those 550,000 RSO's. She also said:

I too was molested twice as a child by two different people. At 6 and at 10. I am a Survivor. You should have seen Dan Abrams face when he interviewed us and I told him I was molested twice as a child. He was speechless for a few seconds. Then he said, "Then you married a sex offender?" I told him, "Yes, he wasnt the one who molested me."

Once again, seemingly oblivious to the one he had molested.

Then her friend shows up to help her. They generally travel in packs. r_nite1 aka reallyconfuzzled1 says

I speak as a victim who regrets the offender was ever reported. And this was 25 years ago. My family was more 'victimized' by the 'justice system' and 'Child Protective Services' than we were by the offender. There is no way I would report today knowing that in addition I would be 'victimized' by society.

The truth is, HE was the offender. Against his own child.

Or what about Stephen Savner aka Product of the Past who said

Go into an elementary classroom today and the curriculum is somewhat different. Now they teach kids about stranger danger, sexual diseases and bad touches from Uncle Carl. Things that used to be our jobs as parents. When did we give the government our power over our own children's upbringing?

And who also said

Sometimes I feel very guilty for having brought him into this world with the position that I am in. Knowing that someday he will have to know what his father did. I feel ashamed when I look into his trusting eyes and see the unconditional love he has for me, knowing that I once abused that trust in another child...........There are those who will say, "He never said one word about how he harmed his victim!" This is true. I have become very weary of that topic.

I wonder how much he has learned after being convicted of molesting a 5 year old child. And why is he on gaming sites posing as a 16 year old?

We could look again at Shirley Lowery, as painful as that is. If you can bear it take a look at this and read how she believes "Jesus was a Pedophile"

You see, they are all the same. Shirley Lowery, Betty Price, Jan Kruska. They are "me, me, me" people. "Oh, you say you've been hurt? Oh, surely there are worse things that could happen to someone....get over it, stop being a victim....be like me a survivor...and besides more people are killed by drunk drivers therefore raping babies must be ok"

These are the people behind the upcoming rally in Ohio. And congrats to Betty Price who received a nice donation and will be able to make it to the Columbus Ohio Rally after all. It should be interesting to hear what she has to say. Hope to see you there.

Graphics courtesy of Jacey

Mocking, Bashing and Blaming

Amazing as it may seem I was recently asked the question "How do you talk to victims of sexual abuse?"

The person who asked was an attorney and activist for sex offenders. In fact, it was none other than Margie Slagle of the Ohio Justice and Policy Center.....a sort of mini ACLU.

Now we all know that Margie is ignorant about the real facts regarding sex offenders, and we all know that she has aligned herself with people who are clearly dangerous propagandists and liars. Jan Kruska, for example, who believes that the sex offender registry should be abolished along with long prison sentences, life sentences, the death penalty, civil commitments AND age of consent laws. Or, Tom Madison of SoClear Media Productions whose chief operating officer Jackie Sparling said

"The sex offender laws affect ALL sex offenders. We all know that. Therefore whether you or your loved one was charged with CP, got caught in a Romeo/Juliet type situation, or was charged with sexual assault/rape doesn't even come into play with our organization"

So, we've established the mindset. What we haven't talked about is the numerous emails Margie has sent me. From her first contact in which she lied about her purpose for reading AZ, to her accusations that I didn't know how to spell pedophile, to her attempts at intimidation and manipulation, and even blaming me because she didn't know how to navigate this blog, her attempts to harass sex abuse victims and undermine their meeting in regards to victim issues all the way to her blatant mockery of someone she believed to be a victim of child sexual abuse, point clearly to what she in fact really is. Evil.

You see, Margie told me that I didn't "walk in the path of the Lord" to which I responded:

"What would the path of the Lord entail? Telling people to put liquid latex on their face to try and deceive authorities? Registering thousands of fake email accounts to over burden the system, waste tax payer dollars and keep people from being able to do their jobs......as part of a 'fun and games' thumb your nose at society sort of thing perhaps? Maybe it's ignoring the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of young children brutalized every year, for which they carry the scars forever only to have a nitwit say 'oh but there are worse things in life, let's think about the offender's rights' Take your condescending crap elsewhere you wouldn't know 'path of the Lord' if he jumped off the trail and said BOO."

That's when she pulled out the big guns. Yeah Baby. The old victim mockery trick.

"The path of the Lord is not contained in any of your ramblings. Obviously someone hurt you, and tragically it seems that your own mother allowed someone to hurt you. Perhaps it was someone she brought into your life or maybe she simply ignored other signs and failed to protect you. Perhaps she was so neglectful that you were forced into the state system."

Personally I think it appears that Margie has dyslexia or some other learning disability. Perhaps she simply has a low IQ and was ignored in school and her mother failed to teach her. But obviously her own mother dropped her on her head then tragically failed to seek treatment for her.

Now, six months later, she's claiming that wasn't mockery, oh NOooo, that was genuine concern!! NOW she tells me that she's ignorant about such things and says "I am not sure how to speak to a victim of sexual assault" And since the answer is so simple, so elementary, we'll save that for last and instead talk about things you DON'T say.

Jan Kruska:

"While sexual abuse is despicable there are indeed things that are much worse in life. Most children do not die or become permanently disfigured as a result."

Shirley Lowery:

"Parents are passing their warped views on to their children. Children are taught that anything inappropriate that happens to them is the fault of someone else."

Zman aka Michael Gregg:

"Why can't we let the police do their job, and let PJ geeks get real jobs? They could be protecting the country with their hacking skills or something, yet they want to go after defenseless child predators instead of OSAMA, terrorists or other hackers!"

CoolRich:

"If a victim does not go on with their lives, they are lost forever. If they allow hatred to control their lives, then they are, at best, no better than the one who perpetrated a crime against them."

Derek Logue:

I've noticed they're REALLY proficient at playing the victim role.

pedo-ken:

"I send a clear message to these stupid assclowns: It ain't the awful memories or humiliation that fucked you up; it's pure lack of self-support. You ain't dead, you ain't a paraplegic, and you're still alive"

turtle:

"there is ALOT more wrong with our nation than just child molesters. when ones life ends up shity(mostly due to neglect and poor decision making skills)its always easier to find a scapegoat than it is to take responsibility for your own fuckups."

Nickless:

"Who knows for sure whether Couey did or did not do that poor little girl a favor?"

Gerber:

"I had a pic at one time ,wish i still had it, its called the Adam Walsh Bear,its a pic of Adam with a baseball suit and bat and his head is on a spring,kind of like a bobble head doll and at the bottom of the pic it says,,Includes spring loaded head.Search party not included."

The question Margie asked was stupid. The answer is simple: You speak to them the same way you do anyone else.