Absolute Zero

"The Rape of Her Daughters"

2009-11-20T20:06:00.000-08:00

Pedophile activists will often try to claim that they don't support raping children. Take for example, Dissident of GirlChat in his most recent post about Absolute Zero:

"No MAA that I have EVER known has supported the use of force or coercion to achieve sexual activity with a younger person, and THAT is what the TRUE definition of "rape" is."

Some pretty bold words coming from someone who posts on a messageboard for perverts.

While any clear thinking person can tell you that any sexual contact with a child is exploitative; Dissident's whole rationalization of pedophilia being acceptable hangs by a thread on the belief that it isn't so (but that's a whole other blog post).

The man pictured above is another one of those "MAA's," you know, the ones which wouldn't dream of raping a child? His name is Michael Herbert and he was a member of Mr.Double.com under the name Abear. Herbert fancies himself as an author, and he writes stories for demented minds like those that post at GirlChat.

"This is my collection of stories, a compilation of experiences, imagination, fantasies and suggestions."

"We were sharing fantasies and story ideas through email, and she told me how she got off on stories of her daughters being raped and all, so I put a story together called "The Rape of Her Daughters." She helped me with the story, giving ideas and suggestions, and it came out pretty good.
I guess this could be looked at as a self-promotion, but I did enjoy the story. The premise is that a guy breaks into their house, ties up the mom and makes her watch him rape her two daugters."

But remember: "Pedophiles just love children, no "MAA" would ever think of raping a child..."

Hebert also shares his views on the virginity of children:

"There is a special place there where the kids can have sex with an adult, and the adults are people from Heaven, who have lived a good life and are given the gift of taking the virginity of the kids as their reward. "

There's a "special place" called prison where all child rapists will eventually find themselves - hopefully serving life sentences.

Another Threat

2009-11-18T02:55:00.000-08:00

"I think there are plenty of non-skinny non-slimy non-introverted non-creepy pedos out there. But people just like to picture the worst. Heck, if most pedo's were muscular, we might, by now, have cops wearing robocop-like suits in everyday patrolling."

What does that mean to you? Pedophiles are always whining that they feel threatened. You know, by people who have children they're trying to get close to.

Is Stahntii saying that, if pedos were all "built" and whatever, that cops would have to worry about being attacked by them? That's what it looks like to me.

But, what do I know? :)

The RSOL Re-Writes History! ...or tries to

2009-11-15T21:16:00.000-08:00

Recently 'Alex Marbury' published an article on the History of the RSOL, from 1998-2009.

Unfortunately, his article is not complete... he seems to have missed a few of the important parts; but don't worry - we're nice people here at Absolute Zero and we thought for a change we'd help 'Alex' and the other RSOLer's out by filling in a few of the blanks and by bringing a bit of clarity to some of the 'fuzzy' parts in their version of the 'History of the RSOL.'

Let's start where the RSOL comes in:

Marbury claims that the RSOL was formed in 1998 out of fear of repressive laws against mainly homosexual people:

This was a perfect environment to foster paranoia and to single out convenient and exaggerated scapegoats - like queers who spread AIDS, or sexual predators who prey on children.

It was amid this growing repression of sexual freedom that the original signatories of RSOL's predecessor, "The Call to Safeguard Our Children and Our Liberties," (The Call) came together in Boston in 1998.

"Homosexual" is not the word for it though. Check out the original 1998 post on BoyChat, which tells a slightly different story to Marburys version of events:

Last year, the brutal rape and murder of a young boy in Cambridge triggered a wave of indignation which targeted all 'pedophiles.' Supporters of the death penalty in Massachusetts used this case and almost prevailed. A national group called the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was especially assailed, with calls in public meetings to find and kill local members, even though NAMBLA was not implicated in the crime. [Roman Catholic] Cardinal Bernard Law was quoted a saying, "This is the closest thing I've seen to a lynch mob since my days in Mississippi."

In other words, the RSOL was formed in response to the public's outrage when two men sexually assaulted and murdered a child after reading NAMBLA material.

Next, Marbury mentions how the original statement was first drafted.

Meeting both at the American Friends Service Committee in Cambridge and at Roxbury Community College in Boston, community activists who had worked together in peace and civil rights movements, and most recently in solidarity groups to support democracy in Haiti, began to draft their original statement.

Ahhh Roxbury Community College... isn't that where NAMBLA Activist and RSOL signatory Tom Reeves was a professor? Anyway, Marbury describes the founding members of the RSOL as "community activists who had worked together in peace and civil rights movements" I guess you could call them that, or you could say...

Participants included women who are incest and sex abuse survivors, NAMBLA members, anti-censorship and civil liberties activists, feminists, gay and lesbian people, health-care workers, church activists, peace and social justice activists, academics, and those who work with prisoners."

Or maybe re-phrase that to...

Participants included women who are incest and sex abuse survivors, boy-lovers, anti-censorship and civil liberties activists, feminists, gay and lesbian people, health-care workers, church activists, peace and social justice activists, academics, and those who work with prisoners.

Whichever way you fancy, really.

Further on down the page, Marbury talks about the RSOL's involvement in a rally to release sex offenders refusing treatment at Coalinga State Hospital:

"A public rally by sex offenders was organized in March 2008 by Voices of the Gulag ( http://www.sexgulag.org) to draw attention to non-violent sex offenders committed to the California state civil commitment center at Coalinga, and to a whole series of rights violations against detainees. It was cosponsored by the Friends & Families of Coalinga Detainees and RSOL. Among the speakers was Paul Shannon of RSOL, by phone, and Tom Madison in person."

It's a little known fact, but not a surprising one by now...

Anyone care to guess who also attended?

It really is no surprise:
Click here to read NAMBLA's write-up on the Coalinga rally: "Walking the Line" written by Joe Power (shown above) who has said:

"I will assert that the persecution of man/boy relationships is a symptom of a much deeper societal disease - the artificially manipulated fear of sexual freedom."

Watch the video here as we see Tom Madison standing proudly beside "Starchild" as he demands the legalization of child pornography and the decriminalization of grooming children for sex.

I'm guessing Marbury didn't want people to see the post by Richard Kramer, (which he put up, but shortly afterward took down), criticizing sex offender activists for comments they made drawing distinctions between themselves and pedophiles. Marbury plugs Kramers organization in his article about the history of the RSOL anyway:

"Other groups still exist. B4Uact, a Maryland group whose purpose is to keep pedophiles from acting on their desires, and to help get public support for this hated and scapegoated group. B4Uact's position is that pedophilia is, like homosexuality, an orientation not chosen by individuals, but genetics."

While pedophiles don't get to choose whether or not they're sexually attracted to children, they do get to choose whether or not they seek help and treatment or whether they want to embrace their pedophilia and abuse children. Marbury states that B4U-Act aims to keep pedophiles from acting on their desires; however Michael Melsheimer, B4U-Act's director says otherwise:

Our site changed in December 2008 because of the statement you quoted. Be assured you will find no current reference to prevention of offending. You can take that to the bank.

B4U-Act is the last place pedophiles who don't want to act on their desires should go, next to places like GirlChat of course. But then again, Melsheimer even refers pedophiles he's come into contact with through B4U-Act, to GirlChat where children are openly sexualized and pedophilia is encouraged. How's that for "keeping pedophiles from acting on their desires?"

In closing, Marbury was right about one thing in his article: "Truth and reason can never be silenced."

Dissident, The Eternal Fool

2009-11-13T03:29:00.000-08:00

This guy just never gives up. He just CAN NOT see that, well, kids don't want to have sex with him. He tries and tries to want to have youth groups to point to, the ones who say, YES YES CAN WE PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH UGLY OLD FAT MEN PLEASE!

Thing is, that ain't happnin. But not too many of these guys can accept this. One day, in a Kingdom, far, far away, there will be a place where young children will want to have sex with ugly old men and women! Imagine! Mushrooms and ferns and sunlight through the trees! It'll be MAGICAL, it'll be AWESOME, and we JUST. CAN'.T WAIT.

lol.

So. Here's Dissident again. I figured, since he was so polite as to reply to us, I figured we'd reply to him(well, we as in i lol).

First of all, if this is so hard for you to decipher, well, I just don't know what to say:

"all those with the need to hate something"

Something. Some ephemeral something that we just hate out loud and just blame it on you. So sad. It couldn't POSSIBLY be because we were fucked in the head by people JUST LIKE YOU. No way. Anyway.

"They refuse to acknowledge a difference between sexual activity achieved through force and coercion and that which is mutually desired by two human beings simply because some of those people are beneath a certain age."

No, see, we do. You don't. That's the problem.

"The belief is that giving them a response inadvertantly empowers them and gives them more control over our lives than they deserve."

They are right. You are wrong. However, because you insist that you're right, we win. Good fucking deal.

Because Dissident is so long winded, and because I choose to sleep, because, we'll get him soon, I'll cut this short. Please feel free to take other parts of his "infinite wisdom" apart.

"My response to AZ's backlash re: B4U-Act
Posted by Dissident on Friday, November 13 2009 at 01:29:57am
As we all expected, the last successful workshop of B4U-Act that I attended and wrote a review about on GC has resulted in a predictable and thoroughly amusing backlash from AZ, who can't stand the fact that MAA's are refusing to remain the punching bag of all those with the need to hate something, and who currently rationalize their outlet for hatred under the guise of "protecting children." The idea that we will one day live in a world where MAA's and youth sexuality are no longer hated and feared, and where the right to sexual expression isn't limited to those aged 18 or over, and where the words "abuse" and "rape" aren't distorted beyond all meaning by those who believe that only people above a certain Magic Age should be allowed to express their sexuality is abohrrent to the mindset of the modern anti. They refuse to acknowledge a difference between sexual activity achieved through force and coercion and that which is mutually desired by two human beings simply because some of those people are beneath a certain age. They insist on believing that an adult having a mere stray thought of someone under 18 being sexy and attractive is an act of pure evil that needs to be contained and denied any form of expression (and if you think I am exaggerating here, just wait until you check out some of Stiches' comments down below). I think the person from VoA who e-mailed me these quotes so that I wouldn't have to visit that website and become ill.

Okay, I am aware that some people here believe that the best type of response to the ignorant, hate-filled nonsense regularly spewed by the likes of AZ is NO RESPONSE. The belief is that giving them a response inadvertantly empowers them and gives them more control over our lives than they deserve. But I think the fact that MHP's are currently reaching out to us, recognizing our humanity, and realizing that adult attraction to those we today label minors is not some horrifically repulsive abnormality but something that deserves objective study regardless of how badly groups like AZ attempt to demonize them for doing so is a sign of progess. Those like AZ who want society to remain forever in the Dark Ages concerning youth sexuality and to continuously believe that every adult who is attracted to minors is an abominable monster who needs to be put either in jail or in an asylum for "treatment" (depending on which way the political pendulum happens to swing at any given time) is slowly but surely overreaching themselves with their attacks on free speech and on anyone who doesn't hold a viewpoint towards us and youth sexuality similar to their own. As a result of listening to some of the people in the community who believe we should give NO response to AZ over what they say about us, I avoided composing a response to them in regards to their recent maltreatment of Poisontears. However, THIS time it's a bit more personal. I think sometimes it's useful and even necessary to respond to the antis, NOT because I think that they have more power than they actually do, but because I think clearing up the record and letting the public hear our side of the story is VERY important. So this time I decided to give a response. In fact, the great success of the past few workshops of B4U-Act and the fact that more of us in the MAA community are starting to show their faces in public and the fact that more MHP's are starting to recognize our humanity and refusing to judge us as human beings simply due to our attraction base is a sign that the likes of PJ and AZ are starting to LOSE power and influence. Progress cannot be stifled, and it's been a rule of history that all minority groups eventually achieve acceptance, understanding, and emancipation despite the large number of people in society who are against change. AZ knows this at some level, and this greatly angers them. Their attempts to boycott every single company that may publish a "pro-pedophile" book or view (i.e., makes statements that do not totally demonize us or see us as something less than human or possibly even a non-politically correct view of youth sexuality) has proven mostly unsuccessful, which makes it clear that their attempts to combat the First Ammendment when it comes to those expressing views that they find offensive is also doomed to failure in the end. Pedophiles and hebephiles will NOT be legislated out of existence, no amount of demands on making an exception to the First Ammendment to censor every non-negative view ever expressed about our attraction base and/or youth sexuality will ultimately prove successful, and no attempts to ban or delegitimize art for daring to feature something as "obscene" as a nude child or teen will continue to be acceptable. A brighter and more free future for everyone is at hand, and this is something that the supporters of the current Dark Age of understanding regarding youth sexuality and adult attraction to minors sense and are growing increasingly fearful of. They live in mortal fear and anxiety over a future society where their current warped definitions of "abuse" and "rape" are no longer defined as such, and where young people are allowed to be sexual beings and adults are allowed to recognize them as such without being considered "sick" or pathological.

Now, onto my response to Stiches' comments regarding the most recent B4U-Act workshop:

1. There were no cops there yay!

Is Stiches hereby implying that there should have been cops present at a mere public discussion about pedophilia and hebephilia simply because the non-MAA's there were present to try and understand us rather than demonize us? The First Ammendment really sucks, doesn't it, Stiches? It's not enough that MAA's (and other curious folk) are currently arrested simply for looking at pictures of naked young people...you want the cops involved even for the mere discussion of the subject. Maybe that is one of the reason the antis are becoming less popular and less able to stifle progress and understanding these days...their desire for the police state mentality in controlling thought and discussion is proving to be incompatible with a society that purports to be based on principles of democracy.

2. There is a good reason not to trust counselors, if you are a pedophile. I mean, yeah, considering that they are compelled to report child abuse. The pedophiles all agree about this.

Um, the mistrust that many MAA's have towards counselors goes WELL beyond this, and if you read our posts less selectively you would understand that. What many of us are afraid of in regards to mentioning our attraction base to MHP's we may be seeing is based on our fear of being demonized by them and seen as something less than human, or for them reporting us to the police even if we are NOT involved in any illegal activity simply due to the popular prejudices against us and the constant assumption that we are inevitably going to "abuse" a minor. No one at the workshop ever suggested that the MHP's shouldn't report illegal activity, but the meeting was simply a call for MHP's who are more sensitive to the needs of MAA's who are having a difficult time living in this society due to all the hatred against us, the problems we may have with keeping a job or being on good terms with our families, having to deal with the constant stream of lies emanating from the mouths of the antis in the media telling us that we are incapable of being anything other than a bunch of child molesting monsters who ruin the lives of other people, etc. And you think it's WRONG for some MHP's to simply see us as human beings who are capable of being productive members of society? The truth is, MANY MAA's are productive members of society and live an entirely law-abiding existence despite having more and more expressions of our attraction base being criminalized by the government every single year. I'm sorry that these particular MHP's who desire understanding over hatred, knowledge over misconceptions, and who put science before popular politics are not to your liking, but a backlash like this is the case whenever those who live on mindless hatred see the objects of their scorn treated as human beings. The depictions of the Japanese people during World War 2 comes to mind here (if AZ existed back then, in the days before the term "pedophile" became widely known, I'm sure you would have spent all your free time demonizing anyone who dared suggest that any Japanese citizen of the U.S. should be released from those detention centers; the temptation to see the "enemy" as something less than human is quite strong, as all of the antis prove).

3. Still, the pedos want to talk to them in order to further their agenda, but they can't present their FULL agenda. Yet. Maybe later, maybe soon. Depends on how cooperative the MHPs are, of course.

Every minority group has to work towards their rights in steps. When the black community were finally freed from chattel slavery, they knew it would be a while before society was ready to accept them taking professional positions such as doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. There is nothing "abnormal" about any minority group seeking full emancipation and acceptance, and if you ever bothered to study the civil rights movements of various groups in the past you would see astounding parallels between the situations of these past groups and the MAA's and youth of today. Of course, the antis deny and claim to be offended by any such comparison between other minority groups and what they went through in the past and that of MAA's and the youth community today, but the statements you make against us now are remarkably similar to those made against other minority groups in the past. And your utter refusal to accept the fact that young people under the Magic Age can possibly have a sexual side to their nature is remarkably similar to what society used to believe about women in the days prior to their suffrage.

3. Some people are able to be in the same room with pedos and not hurt them yay!

And this is a bad thing? Once again, the antis seem to display extreme opposition towards seeing MAA's as anything other than a group of demonic beings in human form who would deserve any degree of violence that might be directed against them simply for discussing their issues in public. Damn those MHP's for being understanding and civilized instead of initiating hatred and violent acts against us!

4. Counselors are ill-equipped to deal with pedophile activists. Well, yeah.

Implying that anyone who dares to sympathize with our plight in society and who seeks real knowledge rather than the constant spewing of hatred and misinformation against is a bad thing??!! It was inevitable that counselors and other people in society eventually began seeing us as a distinct minority group rather than a group of evil monsters.

5. There is hope for the future (if you want to rape children)

I am not even going to get into it again regarding your warped and utterly retarded definition of the word "rape." No MAA that I have EVER known has supported the use of force or coercion to achieve sexual activity with a younger person, and THAT is what the TRUE definition of "rape" is. None of the MHP's we were talking to even discussed lowering or abolishing the age of consent; we were simply discussing treating MAA's like human beings and offering counseling services for those of us who need to talk to someone regarding the difficulties of living as an MAA in this society. Of course, the antis see sinister implications in absolutely everything that we do, and even the mere attempt by us to be seen as human beings disturbs them. That is what bothers the antis the most about these workshops...the knowledge that not EVERY single non-MAA out there sees us as horrific monsters.

6. Smurf dancer spoke, talking about how, because he is a sex offender, he can't teach pretty little girls to dance. All the pedos frowned about that. Apparently the counselors in this meeting frowned as well.

I see your point. So the mere fact that Paul (you can't even show him the dignity of calling him by his real name) has this attraction base and dared to look at pics of little girls automatically means that he is inherently psychotic and will inevitably rape or molest any girls he happens to be teaching. And you WONDER why we oppose such warped and vicious logic?

7. More hope!

Sorry that this disturbs you, but progress for ALL minority groups has always been the law of history.

8. Dissident spent the night with Sproutinghalo. Ang got to know him very well. -wink-

Hmmm...was this perhaps a display of homophobia by Stiches? Nahhhh...

9. Eggs could be thrown at the counselors who attended the conference AS WELL AS the pedos. Especially the ones who think pedoness is perfectly okay and that children should be hurt as often as the MAAs want.

Never mind the fact that this was NOT what the workshop was about. I guess, as usual, the antis see only what they want to see and make assumptions way out of context regarding any post they see from us. And, of course, you clearly express your fears that one day the terms "harm" and "rape" and "molestation" will NOT be used in such a warped form in the future as they are today and that one day society will accept youth sexuality as much as it currently does for adults (and you can continue to deny the sexual nature of youths as much as you want, because an increasing number of young people are being arrested and put on the sex offender registry for any display of sexual behavior, including that between peers of the same age, and young teen girls are arrested and put on the sex offender registry for sending pics of themselves in their underwear over their cell phones; NOW do you see why the antis are the ones in denial rather than the MAA community?? Heaven forbid should anyone strive to stop this nonsense). And I should mention that ALL the MHP's present were VERY concerned about kids being harmed.

10. Some of the counselors thought it was fascinating.

Heaven forbid that someone should find a man my age being attracted to young teen girls as ANYTHING other than repulsive, horrifying, or pathological. We need to control such thoughts!

11. Dissident has never seen any evidence of child sexual abuse from his pedophile peers. (HHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

I would NEVER associate with anyone who would use force or coercion to gain sexual favors from people of ANY age, and I actively discourage illegal sexual behavior from all of my peers. Sorry, Stiches, but it is possible for MAA's to live inside the law regardless of their opinions of the law. And I'm also sorry to say this, but striving for change within the system is LEGAL.

12. He told these counselors this.

Um...duh!

13. They believed him. (HAHAHAHHAHA)

Considering my real life friends have known me for YEARS and YEARS and are well aware of the fact that I DO NOT engage in illegal sexual behavior, and that MAA's are fully capable of living within the law, it shouldn't surprise you that trained counselors can actually see us as something more than a group of deceptive liars. Heaven forbid!

14. They ate food together. And agreed that Oprah is EVIL.

Yup, having lunch together makes it clear that there are people capable of sitting down and breaking bread with us and seeing us as human beings. Heaven forbid! And considering the constant stream of lies that Oprah routinely spreads about us, including the glaring example I provided in my post about that alleged instruction manual for raping kids, is it any wonder that I suggest that maybe MHP's should get to know REAL MAA's and judge them on their own merits rather than listening to everything the antis say about us?

15. The pedos perved over an underaged looking food server.

Omg...heaven forbid that I should look at and admire the beauty of a young woman who was about 19-21 years of age. And heaven forbid could this woman pass for someone under the Magic Age! At my age, I should only be looking at and admiring and fantasizing about women in their 30's and 40's, right? That's all nice and "proper" according to a society with ageist prejudices and anxieties, right? I hate to break this to you, Stiches, and I'm sorry if this offends you considering your age, but many men (and women) find young women to be physically attractive. The fact that you try to demonize and even criminalize such thoughts when they are perfectly normal and natural, and have been so throughout human history, is just plain ridiculous. And you wonder why less and less people are taking you and your crew seriously? I dared to find a young woman attractive so now I'm a "perv." Nice. And btw, I was the one who pointed out to others that this young woman serving us was beautiful, there wasn't a huge "perv" session over her. And I am NOT ashamed of myself for finding young women beautiful, and you are NOT going to make me feel guilty over perfectly natural thoughts (even if said thoughts offend middle-aged women; need I remind you that there are MANY men who are attracted to middle-aged women, including many younger men, so this type of attitude is very much without merit).

16. Dissident hugged some psych major chick and it probably grossed her out. Big Time.

First of all, she wasn't a young psych major; she was a professional MHP who was in the business for a very long time and was much older than me. Oh yes, the "filthy pedophile" hugged a much older woman and (heaven forbid!) this person actually hugged me back and thought of me as a warm human being who actually had some good qualities to his character and was proud to meet me and spend several hours talking to me. And to think she could have such a warm reaction to a man who is attracted to teen girls! Ugh, the very thought of it! Let's throw eggs at her for that! She hugged a "filthy pedophile"!! She saw his humanity! Curse her in hell for that!!

17. Party party party, go to more of these if you are a pedo or a mental health professional who thinks, hey, Pedophilia is Alright By Me!

Change is also one of the rules of history, Stiches. Sorry that you can't deal with that.

I hope I didn't make this post too long, boring, or near-unreadable for you, Stiches. And I'm sorry that my refusal to be seen by society as nothing more than a child-molesting monster offends you. "

Clearly proof that he needs to be locked up. See you in the morning.

If I was someone who could do evil things...

2009-11-09T02:05:00.000-08:00

"Or in the back of my mind I'm going, if I date this woman I'll have free access to 3 little girls. Now I dont want to date just because of the kids, but I dont want to feel guilty that I will be using her to get to her kids."

These are the thoughts going through Severen Shields head when deciding whether or not to date women. Shields is a member of a forum for pedophiles which specializes in "child erotica" stories, known as Mr. Double. Posting under the nickname "Devholyjoke," Shields shared some of his perverted thoughts with other sickos:

"I was in the mall the other day. I had a few girt certifacites to spend, so I was walking down one of the main halls. And in front of me was this cute little 8yo girl. Brown hair pulled into a ponytail, a pink and white sweater and jeans. She was just walking in front of me maybe 3 feet. Besides thinking damn this girl has a cute ass, I also was wondering were this child parents are….So I just admired her daughter's ass as I walked to my car."

Shields seems to always be on the lookout for the parents of children he's perving on, he talks about that more here:

"As I walked past the Wii display I saw a girl about 10-11 playing it. She has blond hair in a ponytail, a pink and white vertical striped sleeveless shirt with titlets poking out and white shorts. As I was taking in her beauty I notice that there wasn't a parent or any sibling hovering around or in the general area.
Now I was thinking, this is sad, if I was someone who could do evil things I could easily grab or coax this girl out of the store and into my car before her parents would even know that she was gone. But of course I just it be my fantasy and quietly walked to the front to check out."

Abducting a child is a "fantasy" to Shields...

B4U-Act Workshop

2009-11-08T02:42:00.000-08:00

So, the pedos had a meeting. And they met with some "open minded" folks down in Maryland. Hey, the pedos have their acronym: MAA, why not give mental health professions their own? MHP. So, there you go, MAAs talking to MHPs. It was GLORIOUS!

Check it out. Here's the basic rundown, according to Dissident:

1. There were no cops there yay!
2. There is a good reason not to trust counselors, if you are a pedophile. I mean, yeah, considering that they are compelled to report child abuse. The pedophiles all agree about this.
3. Still, the pedos want to talk to them in order to further their agenda, but they can't present their FULL agenda. Yet. Maybe later, maybe soon. Depends on how cooperative the MHPs are, of course.
3. Some people are able to be in the same room with pedos and not hurt them yay!
4. Counselors are ill-equipped to deal with pedophile activists. Well, yeah.
5. There is hope for the future (if you want to rape children)
6. Smurf dancer spoke, talking about how, because he is a sex offender, he can't teach pretty little girls to dance. All the pedos frowned about that. Apparently the counselors in this meeting frowned as well.
7. More hope!
8. Dissident spent the night with Sproutinghalo. Ang got to know him very well. -wink-
9. Eggs could be thrown at the counselors who attended the conference AS WELL AS the pedos. Especially the ones who think pedoness is perfectly okay and that children should be hurt as often as the MAAs want.
10. Some of the counselors thought it was fascinating.
11. Dissident has never seen any evidence of child sexual abuse from his pedophile peers. (HHAHAHAHAHAHA!)
12. He told these counselors this.
13. They believed him. (HAHAHAHHAHA)
14. They ate food together. And agreed that Oprah is EVIL.
15. The pedos perved over an underaged looking food server.
16. Dissident hugged some psych major chick and it probably grossed her out. Big Time.
17. Party party party, go to more of these if you are a pedo or a mental health professional who thinks, hey, Pedophilia is Alright By Me!

That's pretty much it. I left out some things you can come to your own conclusions about in the comments sections. Here is the post in full:

"Hey, people. Though I never announced my intentions of doing so over the board over the past few weeks, I did attend the latest B4U-Act workshop. It was an extraordinarily positive experience for me and it went beyond my expectations. It wasn't a sting operation, there were no LEO's there. I understand that many of my friends from the community did not want me to go, as many of them do not like or trust MHP's (Mental Health Professionals)...often for good reason. However, this workshop meeting made it clear that there is every reason to have hope for the future for our community. Some of them are willing to listen to us. Though it's not possible for us to hit them with our full agenda for MAA emancipation and youth liberation at this time, we are at least at the point where some of them are capable and willing to question the prevailing media-inundated dogma about our community. Every single one of the MHP's who attended were courteous and willing to discuss the topic of the workshop: stigma and demonization. I realized during this workshop that the MHP's also have stigma to overcome: the idea that they generally act as cheerleaders and supporters of the prevailing status quo above all else and that they put politics before their desire to help people. Interestingly, two of the MHP's at the workshop conceded that the average MHP is currently ill-equipped to counsel MAA's regarding their problems that stem from living in a society that is so hostile to our attraction base and filled with numerous stereotypes and misinformation about us, and that too many MHP's believe the dogma that the media spews rather than having a real understanding of us as human beings. I was greatly pleased to hear an MHP say this, and for their willingness to reach a greater understanding of us. It made me realize that there is real hope for the future, and though it may take a while for such people to become amenable to ALL of our goals and to fully accept our love as completely valid, we are beginning to make progress and slowly but surely beginning to step out of our seclusion in cyberspace and into the public arena. I am convinced that the B4U-Act workshops are worth attending and that they have the potential to make real progress for our community, one step at a time.

One of the highlights of the workshop was a very poignant and moving presentation from Paul Christiano about his personal situation following his outing by Wikisposure. All of the MHP's there were sympathetic to him, and I was pleasantly surprised to see one of the more conservative MHP's in attendance speak out on how ridiculous it was for the system and the vigilantes to treat Paul in this fashion simply for looking at pictures. This gave me even more hope that the current ignorant attitudes that society and the lawmakers have regarding this can be successfully and powerfully challenged in the future, once we take a few more steps forward. I got to know Paul as a person during the two days I was there and he is truly a warm and terrific human being who has handled great adversity with courage and dignity. In fact, Paul was my roommate in the motel we stayed at during the last night I was there, and we had a long conversation regarding our respective situations and I had a very good time doing so. It was an honor to get to spend this social time with him.

It should be noted that the MHP's who attended took nearly as much risk as the MAA's who were there, because they are risking their careers and professional reputations simply for treating us as human beings and their willingness to say that they do not think pedophilia is a sickness. And yes, many of the MHP's there were critical of the DSM and what it considers to be mental illnesses. So I DO believe that there are at least a handful (and possibly a growing number) of MHP's who are worth our respect and who are willing to engage in respectful conversation with us and to view us as a valid minority group and distinct sexual orientation rather than to see us all as criminals and/or monsters.

One of the interesting and positive moments of the workshop was when one of the MHP's there made it clear that she was fascinated and genuinely interested (as opposed to reviled) with the idea of a man my age thinking that a 14 year old girl was extremely amazing and someone that I would be interested in dating had the laws allowed it. I told her that I could go on for hours describing all the reasons that I think young teen girls are wonderful if the workshop had that time to spare, and the whole group shared a laugh. I think the fact that an MHP can show a genuine curiosity and fascination with the idea of an adult finding someone so many years younger to be attractive in all ways (not just sexually, but also emotionally, socially, etc.) to be a positive indication that in the future not everyone will see such an attraction as evil or "
sick" but genuinely intriguing.

Another highlight of the workshop was an opportunity for us to dispell some of the hysterial lies and myths spread about our community. One of the MHP's present, who has a strong desire to prevent children from being harmed, told us that she is concerned about the Internet making it easier for real predators to meet and discuss ways of abusing kids, and that as an example she has heard that there are message boards on the Web filled with child molesters who openly (and legally) discuss ways of locating and sexually abusing minors. Where have we heard this before? I told her that there are all sorts of fears expressed as rationalizations for the government curtailing freedom of expression on the Net, and that the media and talk shows spread endless lies about the "sexual predator" hysteria. I assured her that I have never seen such an open and public board of child molesters explicitely discussing places to go where minors can be kidnapped and sexually abused in all the years I have been on the Net, and that the boards I participate in have strong rules against advocating illegal behavior of any kind, and that most of the MAA's I meet there are perfectly ethical human beings who do not support abuse. I also used the example of Oprah Winfrey recently describing an alleged training manual posted online by pedophiles that supposedly instructed MAA's in explicit detail on how to sexually abuse kids as young as infants, including the use of implements such as knives inserted into bodily orifices. I assured her that in my nine years of association with the open and public MAA forums I have NEVER come across anything remotely like that, and I told her that the lies and exaggerations routinely spewed from the likes of Oprah and other influential media moguls are largely responsible for panicking the general public into extreme hatred and fear of MAA's and into supporting all sorts of draconian measures to police society towards the alleged goal of "protecting" kids. I was glad to get the opportunity to directly address the lies routinely expressed about our community by the media, and the MHP who expressed this concern was relieved to hear that the many stories of "Internet predators" was greatly exaggerated. We had a good side conversation about this after the workshop ended, and before we all parted company I shared a hug with this particular MHP. It was a hug that represented hope for the future, that one day society as a whole will embrace us as human beings. I was further convinced by this workshop (though I was always of this opinion) that those of our community with the ideology that things are NEVER going to get any better for MAA's in society are completely wrong, and I am happy to express this opinion.

The time that the MAA's and MHP's in attendance spent socializing and mingling during breaks and when we all had lunch together were wonderful moments, as the MAA's there were all openly MAA's during this socializing with Nons, and it was wonderful to be completely open about this aspect of my life without apology or regret and associating with MHP's as equals (rather than as a patient forced to undergo "treatment" by the law) with MHP's who were willing to listen to us. We all got along very well, and I openly encourage more MAA's to attend these workshops in the future since with my health problems I am not certain how many of them I can attend in the future and thereby officially represent the GL subsection of the overall MAA community (Paul and I were the only two GLer's present there; the other MAA's were BLer's). The fact that one of the young woman serving us during lunch was incredibly hot was another highlight of the experience, and I'm just glad she didn't totally distract me from the business at hand (I was on cloud nine when she smiled and said 'hi' to me).

I should also mention that this was the first time I have met any fellow MAA's in person (Eeyore, take note!). It was a terrific experience, despite the fact that I only knew three of them and I never really spoke to Paul that much on the board. We had a good time socializing and hanging out, we went out to dinner together, and it was wonderful for all of us to be ourselves during this time. I look forward to meeting other MAA's in real life in the future.

I would like to personally thank Mike Melsheimer and Richard Kramer for arranging this workshop, and I was greatly honored to meet them both and for Mike to invite me to the workshop. Considering my many rather radical views, I was honestly surprised to be invited, as I'm sure some people might question my ability to stay on topic during the workshop and not discuss matters that the public is not yet ready to engage in, and I like to think I purported myself well there. These workshops are a wonderful opportunity for all MAA's who are hoping to work towards progress outside of cyberspace (you are all free to use assumed names during the workshops), and thus far B4U-Act is the only opportunity available to us to do so. I understand how wary some of you may be for attending such workshops in the future in these paranoid times, but I would love to see more of us step out of cyberspace and into the public to engage the world at large on our issues.

Thank you again to Mike Melsheimer for inviting me to attend and for him and Richard Kramer giving me this opportunity. "

'I am the funny, cool guy that all the kids love hanging out with'

2009-11-05T22:28:00.000-08:00

Derek Foster (shown to the left) is a Youth Counselor and also a Fireman:

"I have a cool job. A youth Counselor for troubled teens. Males mind you. What a handful they are."

What Foster probably doesn't tell his employers, is that he's also a regular poster on a number of forums for pederasts under the screen name "TheGreatBL." He talks about his job a little more...

"I am always the funny, cool guy that all the kids love hanging out with. So, to me, that is am advantage that i love about being in my early 20's. Its the fact that i can associate with the younger crowd more. "

Fosters posts on pedophile forums range in a variety of pervert-related topics. From how he'd like to suck on a 12-year old child's genitals, through to how pedophile forums helped him come to perceive pedophilia as acceptable:

"I finally was happy with myself that i wasent alone. Being here and having the friends that i do from the board has made me finally happy and at peace with myself. I now feel normal and more at peace now knowing that im not alone. I am happy knowing that there are so many of us. "

...and this is someone who's working as a youth counselor.

An Authentic Sense of Pride

2009-11-03T23:10:00.001-08:00

Mark Hunneyman AKA "Snowcat" is proud to be a pervert, he boasts to his fellow pedopals on BoyChat:

"I’m writing this because you guys have helped me take back control of my life one step at a time. I have made some wonderful friends who have given me hope and a real, authentic sense of pride. Shame has no place in my life anymore."

Places like BoyChat encourage pedophiles to embrace their desire to sexually abuse children and be proud of it.

Shame probably doesn't have much of a place in Mark's life... he's too distorted to realize what a perverted freak he is:

"The boy was really amazing. His skin was nice and tanned and he had that beautiful body that only a little boy can have. At one point he was sitting in his chair and he lifted his feet into the air so not only could I see his feet but I could almost catch a glimpse of what was in his shorts"

Pedophiles really have trouble grasping the fact that children aren't interested in being sexually abused by them, here's Mark again:

"20:37 <> just think, there's boys lying in their beds thinking about a man's cock
20:38 <> wishing to feel it, taste it'"

A run-in with the law when he was 19 prevents him from working around children, but Mark says he's holding out till his brother has children...

"I think at this point my only hope is that my brother will have kids someday soon."

Any guesses what he's planning to do?

Halloween of Pedophile Activists Un-Masked

2009-11-01T10:03:00.000-08:00

To commemorate the occasion, we've produced a short video about the outings...

Wikisposure gives Pedophile Activists their own Halloween Surprise!

2009-10-31T16:40:00.000-07:00

Wikisposure has once again out done themselves with the current outings Wikisposure Pedofright 2009!
This list of monsters is quite a haul, what a delightful Halloween treat!

	Francisco Perez AKA Kanospower "Welcome everyone that wants to be friends, dont mind the age nor anything else... "
	Chris Ilson AKA Westcoaster "In the case of a father with a daughter, I always believe it might be easier to start things if you were 'discovered' by your daughter while masturbating. Either nothing happens, or you get approached and something would happen. In either case, you'd have to follow up in a week's time and ask the daughter if they want to 'talk' and perhaps seeing that might lead to a nice discussion."
	Walter Howard AKA TMaximus95 "It's amazing to me how many cool stories I've read about the things boy lovers do with their young friend. It's not all about sex. I'm finding that many BL's hold their responsibility to a YF with a great conviction."
	Tom Reeves "The core of our identity must be unashamed love of boys as boys."
	Gary Wolchesky AKA MyIDIsPhat In October of 2009, thanks to the Youtube members who kept reporting him to law enforcement, Wolchesky was arrested on child endangerment charges.
	Gerald Moonen "9. In paragraph No 5, I explain that many young people seek a sexual confirmation and guidance from older people."
	Paul Sykes AKA Psyco "but for the record, I am a BL, in my 30's, My AOA (age of attraction for the newbies) is 8+ but my favorite kids to hang out with are the 10-12 yo's so if any of you have an extra boy kicking around who could use a friend or mentor, please send him my way"
	Mark Hunneyman AKA Snowcat "This is the perfect time of the year to see young boys of all shapes, sizes, and colors displaying their smooth lower legs. In my opinion, the thinner the better. My ideal boy is eight or nine with small little feet and thin smooth legs."
	Severen Shields aka Devholyjoke "Or in the back of my mind I'm going, if I date this woman I'll have free access to 3 little girls."
	John Kapshaw AKA Handfulofdust "So this is me, lifelong GL (and BL as well), finally opening up to Kindred Spirits."
	Einar Robert Fry AKA Kittycat80 "I am 28 years old and I live in Arizona. I work at a local casino as a Blackjack and Poker dealer. I have been a boylover pretty much all my life, although I didn't know there was a term for my attraction until I was around 19."
	Miffy AKA Simon Rose "i would love to grab a 2 year old girl from a shopping center take her in to some woods and split her open with my cock i would fuck her up every hole and shoot my load in her mouth"
	Jerry Douglas Ray AKA Childdriver "Well I showed my porn collection to my niece, she found it under the bed. This lead to discussions on what sex was and how it felt. Then of course she wanted to try somethings out. Neddless to say, the seeing sex first via porn, has done wonders to get the girls ready for the real thing."
	Tom Arthur AKA Mr. Double "Have her play like she is giving birth to a baby(preferably a girl). Then as soon as the head pops out of her pussy, fuck the baby's mouth while fucking her with the baby."
	Matthew Harman AKA Elliptor Little Boy Cum? "I would love that! Not huge buckets of cum, but just like when boys first hit puberty. Yummy"
	Paul Dobbins AKA Nz "lol yes, i fixed the age thing Anyone over 12 can join. If you really want yer little bro to join i can modify it for him just lemme know"
	Oscar Scott Guzman AKA Scott G " What, precisely, did you find so 'sick' in what I said above? That I fingered my little sister? I'm sorry that I don't conform to North America's societal norms, but can you tell me, besides that, what's so terrible about it?"
	Cory McDonald AKA CryptKeeper Topic: What turns You on Most About a Boy?? "depending on the boy really can be anything [Big Grin]"
	TheGreatBL AKA Derek Foster "in a pure fantasy world,using your imagination.would you like to suck or be suck by a 12 year boy? remember this is all just fantasy lol"
	Leland Stevenson "I befriended a young teenage boy….we went on a camping trip….on awakening in the morning, he positioned himself in such a way that nature would take its course….No lubricant was desired or required…he experienced what he wanted to experience. "
	Shane Hellenga AKA Boywtchr1975 "Kids nowadays are learning at younger ages and at faster paces then people did when I was growing up. This is my answer to the survey.....Yes. If the boy is initiating sexual contact, I respect his decision and would gladly consent."
	Glen Hall "I once tried the video camera in the shopping bag bit, basically for shits and grins. Once caught a young pre-teen girl, perhaps twelve, at a pinball machine in a short sun skirt I was having fun just standing close and looking over her shoulder but when I saw the tape the shoulder was not as appetizing.….the most sensual part was all the blonde peach fuzz leading up to the crack of her ass… I could probably explained away filming a mature woman, but a pre-teen?"
	Daniel Smock AKA AirboyDS "Summer is the best time to be a boylover, in my opinon. You have things such as the LLWS, and seeing boys while swim at the pool or the beach."
	Timothy Shehan AKA MrTim "If you had a daughter, are you sure of that statement? Most people, myself included, couldn't make that statement. I would say that I would try to avoid touching her sexually, but I couldn't guarantee that I wouldn't."
	Abear AKA Michael Herbert "You have permission to use my stories and my nickname however you want. But please remember that I am painting you in a good light in this story, and that I am just finishing a scene where you had sex with three young girls who are named after authors from this page."
	Walter David Bertsche III AKA Mortuis99 "23:53 <> i wanna see a live action ver of Enzai 23:55 <> in enzai there are some good ass raping scenes"

Happy Halloween from Absolute Zero United!

"As a boy, I was a toy. As a man, I played with toys"

2009-10-27T21:04:00.000-07:00

boylover.net, sometimes referred to as BL.net, is a private, members only forum, on which pedophiles can share their interest in young boys, and their views on pedophilia. Read more about this pedophile forum on Wikisposure

While you're there at Wikisposure read the Sosen Staff entry regarding the happenings behind the scenes at Sosen. Read how the staff was more concerned with someone finding out that the executive director of SoHopeful - Jim Freeman - was a ring leader in "the greatest group of pedos on the internet" than they were in trying to determine how he had fooled them all and how to prevent such a thing from happening again. And of course you might ask yourself why they named this man - TMaximus - to be their webmaster. Or why they put up that silly disclaimer saying you couldn't be a member of GirlChat or BoyChat and that you should report someone to "staff" if you found they were. Did they think those were the only pedogroups on the internet? And how do you report such behavior by a staff member to a staff member? Or perhaps you should just ask yourself exactly WHY we recognized what Walter Howard was and yet they never blinked an eye no matter how outrageous his rhetoric. Check it out: TMaximus, proud member of boylover.net, Sosen, Soclear, Rights and Law Network, etc

For me, it's a part of reliving the better years of my life. The hugging, kissing, and innocent touching that sends me into orbit.
I love to caress and massage a teen boy, because I remember how that felt for me when it was done.

If there's a teen boy that needs an older online brother here on BL.net, drop me a line. We can have a great online relationship/experience.
I Love the sexual stimulation and the companionship of another boy. {I still consider myself a boy at heart, but the wrinkles of my aging say other things}. I missed out on so many boyhood things that I should have experienced but was not able to. Perhaps it's my longing to relive my adolescence that keeps me fixated on teen boys?
I'm pretty much fixated on teens. That's not to say that I don't have "attractions" to younger boys, because I do.
There was a time when all I wanted was the sex. I had no understanding for Love and it's accountability. As a boy, I was a toy. As a man, I played with toys.
I love doing non sexual things with my young friends more than anything else. They enlighten me, encourage me, inspire me respect me. And they do it because they want to. Not because of gifts, bribes or exploitation. With every young friend I meet, a piece to this puzzle is found, and the picture thats being created is becoming more clear. It's not such a bad picture at all. The picture is darkened only when the love between us goes awry.
I've heard tell, in my fantasy world, that little ones are angels in disguise. But when I look at children today, I see the two little horns hanging out the sides of there angelic little skulls.

On the other hand, is it dangerous to flirt with little devils?
I know that my attractions involve mostly physical attributes, as I talked about in another thread.

For me, the perfect YF would be emotionally stable and mentally curious / inquisitive.

If anyone knows of such a kid, let me know. Tell me about him. That's all, just tell me about him
BLers and RSO's have a simple thing in common. Persecution from a bigoted society and a hypocritical judicial system.

I hate to say this, because I once Loved this Country, but this is not America anymore. Our Government representatives have legislated the bill of rights out of our system.

There's an awful lot of bogus information / ideas about boy lovers and RSO's. We certainly do have a lot in common.
I think the main issue that's plaguing all of us is the LAW.
The "public" believes that the actions of boy lovers are very damaging. I personally think that the public's response to sexual events is a bit too much, but who am I to question a boy's parents?

I had what I believed to be consensual sexual relations with several teen boys {for sums of money}. When my money ran low, one of the boys turned me in.

About 5 years into my prison bid, I learned that all the boys were exposed as "prostitutes." I boy committed suicide, two are now heroin junkies, and the 4th boy is doing well.
During my years in prison, I agreed to do sex offender treatment. I learned alot, but it all boils down to people not minding their own business. That's what does the most harm. If a boy has had sexual relations with a grown man, and feels upset, then, he should accept responsibility and be accountable for his own choices. However, boys are easily exploited {Money}, and will regret their actions later on. This is also responsible for their guilt, shame, and some times, depression.

I'd be lying if I told you I am no longer attracted to teen boys. I am still attracted, and always will be. However, I doubt I would ever put myself in that same type of jeopardy again. I would also recommend to others that you carefully consider your approach and actions with boys. Several American States have added the death penalty to child molestation laws.

I personally wish relationships with boys were legal, because sex is not that big of deal, until others decide not to mind their business. Kids who induldge with adults often commit social suicide by revealing their encounters. Sex is, and should remain a private matter unless it is forced, or there is exploitation involved.
I truly Love Boys, and never meant any harm. As a small boy, and into my twenties, I had sexual affairs with older men. I wasn't harmed by them. I was harmed by the pseudo-religious-intellectuals that have a hankering for dictating moral policy to the world, and other people who love to get into other peoples personal business.

America is in a crisis my friends... Civil rights are being stripped from citizens "accused" of certain crimes. The days of "innocent until proven guilty" are a thing of the past. The madness against sex offenders is only the beginning I believe. There will come a time when citizens other than sex offenders, boy lovers, and pedophiles will be deemed internal / domestic terrorists. Then it will move to another faction, like domestic abusers... etc...

Genitalmen, we need to start talking up {openly in society} about the government passing new and abusive laws that violate our constitution. Don't sit back and watch what happens, because it may be your door the next group of murderers knock on.

Remember Amy

2009-10-27T19:37:00.000-07:00

We wrote recently about Jim Freeman - the proud pedophile sex offender activist - who was ordered to pay restitution to "Amy" in the sum of $3,263,758. Unfortunately she'll only receive about forty thousand from his retirement fund. He won't be needing it where he'll be spending the rest of his life after all.

Amy is fighting back. She's filed for restitution against at least 20 other people including Remsen McGinnis Benedict, AKA Wolfman and Raymond Highsmith a former Shriners leader. Hopefully more victims will follow in her footsteps to demand true justice and restitution. Amy begins her story: "My uncle started to abuse me when I was only 4 years old."

The Misty series is one of the most popular and readily available kiddie porn videos on the Internet. It's considered a collector's item among pedophiles. Downloading it is a felony. Officials have identified 750 individuals who possess the Misty series, but they believe tens of thousands of copies are out there.

Today, she suffers from severe post-traumatic stress disorder. Victims of child sexual abuse are more resistant to treatment than victims of other types of PTSD.

The next time you see someone refer to child pornography as a "thought crime" stop for a moment and remember Amy and all the children whose experiences echo hers. The next time you hear a dumb duck say that child pornography may "prevent" a pedophile from molesting a child, remember Amy. Take a moment and read her Victim Impact statement. Keep her story in mind when you hear a victim-bashing dumb duck say "victims can get help and go on with their lives but the offenders life is destroyed forever by these laws".

I am horrified by the thought that other children will probably be abused because of my pictures. Will someone show my pictures to other kids, like my uncle did to me, then tell them what to do? Will they see me and think it's okay for them to do the same thing? Will some sick person see my picture and then get the idea to do the same thing to another little girl? These thoughts make me sad and scared.

I am always scared that people can look at me and tell that I am a victim of sex abuse because my abuse is a public fact. I am worried that when my friends are on the internet they are going to come across my pictures and it fills me with shame and embarrassment.

Every day of my life I live in constant fear that someone will see my pictures and recognize me and that I will be humiliated all over again. It hurts me to know someone is looking at them -- at me -- when I was just a little girl being abused for the camera. I did not choose to be there, but now I am there forever in pictures that people are using to do sick things.

I am being exploited and used every day and every night somewhere in the world by someone. How can I ever get over this when the crime that is happening to me will never end? How can I get over this when the shameful abuse I suffered is out there forever and being enjoyed by sick people?

Please think about me and think about my life when you sentence this person to prison. Why should this person, who is continuing my abuse, be free when I am not free?

Necrophilia Obsessed Borderline Sociopath

2009-10-21T10:21:00.000-07:00

We previously talked about Jennifer aka Jack Kaiser aka Lyrical Cancer here

I do admit to having some serious issues with this person. First it was his defense of Jizzony and his incessant harassment of me on YouTube that first set me off. Then he stole all the videos of him that I had worked so hard to steal - by claiming copyright to his child luring videos. Ballsy! But mainly it was just about his pedophilia and attempts to gain access to children.

When he was confronted about his pedo-activities he denied being pedo, can you believe that? I've always wondered why they defend their perversions so fiercely in pedo-places and deny it so strongly in others. Especially when we consider that Jack tried desperately to get attention while describing himself as "borderline sociopath" with an "obsession with necro" - frankly I expected a little more gratitude.

When Jack was arrested recently while trying to enroll in a school as a 15 year old boy I couldn't help but be reminded of Neil Havens Rodreick II - a 30 year old convicted sex offender who enrolled in an Arizona school as a 12 year old and was assisted by family members who pretended to be his father, uncle and grandfather.

There are people who are trying to make this into a "transgender" issue due to the fact that Jack was born female. But the truth of the matter is that Jack has been trying to pass himself off as a young boy for years while running pedophile websites and grooming children. Jack didn't pretend to be a kid in order to "get an education" as some have proposed. See these video clips to see Jack in action and I think there won't be any question about why Jack was trying to enroll in school as a child. From Wikisposure:

What makes the pedophile “Jack” particularly sinister and disturbing is his continued persistence to lure underage boys into a world of dangerous Sex Offenders, Child Pornographers and Pedophile activists with the ruse of being “Lyrical Cancer” (a 14 year old boy), despite continued warnings he has received from the police.

HT ~**Violet Leaves**~

Distortion Induced, Sleepless Nights

2009-10-17T23:42:00.000-07:00

Sancho Panza of GirlChat, posted about the two girls he's currently grooming:

"The presence of the first girl that made so love sick I could hardly sleep or eat a year ago.
Also the first time I got depressed being a pedophile."

"Love" isn't the word for it, but he's definitely right about the sick part...

"Her tiny, soft and sweet voice, well spoken and polite.

The body of a 9yo, the mind of a 14yo, but in reality 11yo. Such a lovely package.."

"But my dreams were shattered by A., every time I came to close to Laura A. would place herself between us grabbing my hand or arm.
Her statement was simple and clear: no one allowed between us, period."

Some children will be more eager for attention than others, there's nothing unusual or uncommon about that part; normal adults wouldn't think much of it, however Panza's by no means a normal adult. Instead he convinces himself that there's something below the surface - that the child's conveying some kind of message about being in a relationship, because he wants to believe it.

As usual, Panza's not alone in pretending children are interested in relationships with him, the GirlFreaks share the same convoluted thoughts:

Bottle

"Thanks a lot for sharing, I could feel the beauty of L, by your description, And most importantly, the wonderful nonverbal statement by A."

CatcherintheRye

"every time I came to close to Laura A. would place herself between us grabbing my hand or arm.
Her statement was simple and clear: no one allowed between us, period.

Aw, in a way, ya can't really complain about that :)

She wants you to herself. heh heh"

Silentmist

"A. would be preoccupied with me, and you could give all your attention to Laura and count every freckle on her beautiful face."

Sancho Panza

"But I couldn't resist the urge to take her ponytail in my hand when A. went to a toilet, even her hair is soft.

No sleepless nights this time, no pain. Final choices have been made.
Thanks for your lovely company and take care my little freckled friend."

Sancho Panza, laying in bed at 3:00 a.m. staring at the ceiling, the thoughts going through his head...

"I've done it! I've finally made up my mind about how this is going to work... No more sleepless nights for ole Panza."

This is how obsessed pedophiles are with seeing children how they want to see them, not how children really are.

Waiting for Change

2009-10-15T00:32:00.000-07:00

Clolibre

"For those who believe sex should have no age restrictions and are waiting for the day they can express their love for their partner no matter the age under majority in a sexual way. How long are you willing to wait for that to be allowed?"

How long would you be willing to wait? Clolibre asks the BoyChatters. Here's how they replied:

Venting in Venice

"I'm not, it won't happen...nt"

TeenEweenE

"Why wait?"

Pedophiles will often claim that they don't pose a threat to children; but when they're asked how long they'd be prepared to wait, the answer they give is that they're not going to wait.

Santi

"Right now the best thing we can aim for is to go back into obscurity. Darkness is good, better always."

Sexyboy

"what is the alternative?"

Clolibre

"Fight!"

They never consider the possibility that the problem isn't with society criminalizing child molestation, but with the thoughts that go through their heads; they don't care if their actions are destructive. Society will never change, just as pedophiles who molest children will sooner or later be caught and find themselves behind bars.

Who is listening and what are they hearing?

2009-10-05T20:53:00.000-07:00

Who is listening and what are they hearing?

For the most part, our most effective listeners are our most entrenched opponents; Absolute Zero, Perverted Justice, and the rest. What are they hearing? Mostly that we cannot seem to form a united front and we do well enough at arguing with ourselves, thank you very much.

So, who is listening? It would seem very few, and what is being heard is not what is being said.

Said Kelly Piercy of Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign - RSOL

Let's break it to Kelly gently. We understand the RSOL on a much deeper level than the majority of RSOL supporters are even capable of. It has little to do with the fact that we laugh at you all running around like headless chickens or the wild hysterical knock-down drag-out fights you're all famous for. That's just a stress buster much like Static's Auto-abuse analogy. It has everything to do with the ultimate goal of your "organization".

Nigel Oldfield aka Agony Uncle, the supporter of sadistic child pornography left an interesting comment here recently. He said that the Black Panthers were to Civil Rights for African Americans what Nambla was to Sex Offender Advocates. I thought that especially strange considering the way sex offenders react at the mention of pedophiles. If one didn't know better you'd swear they didn't know they were working on behalf of pederasts. Why, just a few short weeks ago Mary Duval said we should get the "non-dangerous" sex offenders off the registry so we could "waste money" watching the truly dangerous ones - the real pedophiles.

Sosen and the RSOL are ONLY interested in the abolition of the registry and sex offender laws. Every single thing they say is directed toward that goal. Whether it's blaming victims or blaming parents for being neglectful or blaming parents for being too protective or blaming the media or simply creating twisted, distorted concoctions of pedocrap while claiming their goal is "No More Victims" and accusing everyone of being ignorant. They failed miserably at grasping this very simple concept: we understand completely the rhetoric and propaganda they're using. Where did they think it came from?

We'll go into the techniques and how they are applied soon but for now I'm going to provide a nice little snapshot of what people see when the Minute Men arrive. From a news story about the death of John Couey everyone basically had the same reaction - his death was a good thing wasn't it? Who could feel sorrow for that man? They left touching words and healing words but they also expressed their anger and rage at what that man did to that little girl and in the midst of this, in rode the Sosenites. I'm sure you could guess which statements belong to them. Here are some of the comments in the immediate hours after the news of Couey's death. They ranged from a call for prevention:

The best way to honor Jessica is to create laws and ENFORCE them so that these sickos can't get near children. One and Done! You molest, rape, assault a child--you never see the light of day again-PERIOD.

To expressions of relief:

God bless Jessica's family. We will always remember Jessica. Because of your advocacy many children will have the protection that Jessica deserved.
He's finally dead. That's really all that matters, he can quit sucking the tax payer's money. He needed to die years ago.
We don't hate him, we are just happy he died.

Anger:

Hopefully he'll spend every moment of hell being buried alive over and over and over again
Tell us where he's buried so we can all go piss on his grave.
Can they cut off his head just to make sure he is really dead? I don't want him making any kind of recovery.
It's too bad they couldn't have buried him a few days ago so he could see what it feels like
I hope this is a hoax and they are planning to bury the guy alive.
Piece of crap should have died hanging from a noose after having his dingy chopped with a rusty axe
I can only hope that, being a father himself, God kicks John Couey's butt from one end of Heaven to the other, just before he kicks him out to hell.

Celebration:

No one has claimed the body? Can we have it?? We won't do anything to it. Really!
We ought to be able to bid on his body and then do whatever we want with it..we could burn him on the SR 60 causeway and charge admission to come see him burn.
Let's bid on the body and donate the funds to having those laws passed to put the John Couey's away for life.
If anyone wins an auction to claim his body, post it on here, I will be happy to donate to the cause.

Offensive:

Good riddance to the piece of crap. The only bad thing is that the media will be all over her attention-hungry "father" again...Perhaps now his fifteen minutes are finally used up.
Maybe if mark had been home that infamous night, instead of spending the night with a woman elsewhere .. his daughter might be alive ...So Yes, Hell on earth does exist if he has any shame at al
I don't think there is a single responsible parent on here that would disagree with the fact that he is a weed head who does not look after his children in the responsible manner that is required
I knew Mark's face would show up....where was he when his little baby was being tortured????
i hope he thinks every day why didnt he stay home to protect his daughter from couey if he would have she would be here today but know he had to go out and party it up mark i hope this rides your memory the rest of your life what if i would have been a better father and stay home and be a dad like most dads should its no ones fault but your own now you live with this

Yes Kelly, we're listening but the thing is that you're wrong about it only being us that hears what you're saying. I can guarantee you 100% that "flooding the internet" isn't going to help you especially considering the quality of "flooders" you've got and the contamination of the water you're using. Of course, you're one of them too - the Blame Gamers. How could you possibly have any insight into this behavior? Why just the other day Kelly said:

This is insane!
Where was the mother of that 13 year old girl when Mr.Polanski was photographing her?
Another case of motherly neglect as with Adam Walsh!

Or HEY how about the bashing of Ron Book's daughter? See here's the thing, they didn't just bash her. They mocked her abuse. So here's a little hint for Kelly and the gang - it's actually another 100% guarantee: No one will ever see you as anything but an animal if you don't have the common sense and decency to know without being told that this is offensive and objectionable. Not only that, every time you people say these things you identify yourself as a high-risk sex offender. Nobody else could possibly think to say these things. Things like:

Lauren Books appears to be double talking and already starting her career in being yet another annoying politician. Good job making your sad past into 5 minutes of fame.

And

Maybe if daddy wasn't working those long hours in Tallahassee his daughter wouldn't have been getting pooped on by the nanny. Lauren is decent looking so the images of lesbian sex are kinda awesome, especially because it involved Cleveland Steamers and probably a Dirty Sanchez.

And

it's up to the parents to help their children, not the state....Don't put your career and business ahead of your child and this never would have happened, but they can't accept that and blame the state for not protecting their child...sad:(

And

Lauren, honey - I'm sorry for what happened to you as a child, but now you're being abused by your father who puts you in the position of being a poster child for his own demented witch hunt/ego trip.

And

This story should be about the horrific negligence by this young woman's parents, and how her therapy is about her hatred of them. Talk about multilayered and multigenerational sensationalism toward mining for a story.....sheesh. Putting this financially priviledged little twit in charge of anything related to emotional healing without holding her parents accountable is the biggest deceit of all.

And

Lauren, you should hire a lawyer and sue your parents. Ron Book and his wife are the criminals here, and they know it. They neglected you and hired a Nanny that abused you, and they either didn't care or they turned their heads away.

And

Now I understand what happened here. Lauren is a double victim: is the victim of a non-convicted-then sexual predator who could live anywhere she wanted and do anything she wanted, and Lauren was also victim of her parents totally irresponsible lack of supervision.

And

All I gained from this article and accompanying video is that Lauren was molested and pooped on, her dad cries and blames himself for what happened, and Lauren says "ummm" a lot and rants without any reason or suggested solution to the problem.

And

What the Books should've done is focus on creating programs or access to public child care programs so that parents don't have to entrust their child's well-being to an adult behind closed doors.

And

Ha. A typical 'rich and powerful' family. The parents hire a Nanny since they have so little interest in their children. They didn't even have time to spend with their kids. Soo little that they didn't even recognize FOR SIX YEARS that something might be happening to their daughter. WOW!

And

Lobbyist are the drug dealers and pushers for big corporations, just like in the drug world, you have your cartel leaders that grow and export and they use their pushers and dealers at the bottom to get the drug to where they want it and make the money for them. Sorry Lauren but your a joke now.

Just think, I've ran out of room and can't show you the John Walsh attack. Guess what Kelly Piercy, Sosen and the RSOL? Everyone heard you. You came through loud and clear. What's so scary is that you don't realize it. You don't realize it because you people have surrounded yourselves with others who are just like you. They talk like you and they think like you, they're obnoxious like you and just like you they are successfully sealing your fate.

Once upon a time one of the original demented blame gamers did manage to offend even the Sosenites who hadn't yet perfected "the mantras". Let's take a look, see if it seems familiar.

Shirley Lowery is who I speak of. She said Jesus was a pedophile. She said Jessica Lunsford killed herself in a suicide pact with John Couey. She said... well take a look.

I believe that Mark Lunsford killed this child and Couey watched him bury her. Then Lunsford reported her missing, took the time to delete the child porn from his computer and then joined the search.

To which Lee Lee Lawless replied:

Oh, Shirley, I don't know about this. Any defense of Couey replaced with an attack on the "grieving" father is not a good direction. Maybe a private discussion, but not a letter to Geraldo. I think this would be used against us in a heartbeat to demonstrate that "all SO's stand up for each other no matter what they have done"

Did that stop her? Of course not. But that was years ago and this is now. Her response to Couey's death is far and away the most offensive garbage I've ever read. What do you - Kelly Piercy think about what Shirley said?

when did her have sex with her? I don't know but he must have viewed her as an angel. Nobody had ever wanted him. Here was this beautiful young woman that did not appear to be a virgin. She smiled up at him and said she thought she was having her period. According to the coroner he must have been a gentle lover for there was no bruising or spots around her mouth, in her anal area or anywhere else on her body

Or what do you think of Danny Price's response to Shirley:

As with sex offenders, and this is only my own opinion, deviant sexual behavior is a by product of bad parenting, lack of parenting, abuse and neglect or a combinations of different things.

With any of the problems our society faces. All they do is put a bandaid on the problem by not going to the source. The parents.

Wow! Think about that for a moment. Not only have blame gamers blamed the victim and the victims parents but this sex offender is blaming the offenders parents.

Why didn't the Anti's think of that before? There's no need to "blame the offender", there's a parent out there somewhere who has to be responsible - there simply must be.

The Truth About Reform Sex Offender Laws

2009-10-03T21:44:00.000-07:00

We've talked about it a lot in the past few months - the relationship between the Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign and groups such as NAMBLA which are openly pro-pedophile in their message.

Reading through the list of goals on the Reform Sex Offender Laws petition, something strikes you as off when you find comments like...

"6. Support broad sex education for children, and empower them to make their own decisions and stand up for their rights."

I guess it never occurs to some of the signatories on the petition to ask: "What does 'sex education for children and empowering them to stand up for their rights and make their own decisions' have to do with reforming sex offender laws?" and for others, it's probably goals like this which are the prime reason they're signing their name to it.

To help give people a better background on the Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign, we've prepared this video:

'The children?'

2009-10-02T23:22:00.000-07:00

Lydia Cacho Ribeiro, a Mexican journalist, feminist and human rights activist, uncovered the most sordid secret of Cancún, the idyllic vacation resort, when she denounced a child prostitution and trafficking ring hidden in luxury hotels that was organized by businessmen and protected by politicians and thugs.

After writing her book, “The Demons of Eden, ” which exposed corruption involving powerful business interests, politicians, law enforcement and judges in Mexico; Cacho was arrested, beaten and threatened with rape. Cacho talks of her experience here:

To give you some idea of what her book is about:

"Demons of Eden" opens with a 13-year-old girl, whom Cacho calls "Cintia," clutching a stuffed animal as she tells a psychologist how Succar (Jean Succar Kuri) -- the man she called "Uncle Johnny" -- molested her at the age of 8. Afterward, Cintia says, he brandished a knife and threatened to cut her "into pieces." Cacho quotes the girl saying, "He is the devil."

Jean Succar is a fine specimen of one of those 'childlovers' - you know, the type like those which post on pedophile message boards like BoyChat about loving children? Perverts like this hate people who expose the disgusting, cruel and inhuman things they do to children for sexual pleasure. Perhaps that's why Santi wants her out of Mexico:

Santi

"While she has been unable to succeed in Mexico... I'd recommend her to emmigrate ASAP."

"Everybody knows here that she is just an opportunistic twat, and that she wants to import the fear and paranoia from Zombieland. She lives under the radar here, nobody attacks her or praises here, for her to sink in the darkness.

She has gotten a couple of prizes here, but so minor that are more an insult than a praise. "

Another BoyChatter, Fidia, complains about the attention Lydia Cacho has received in putting her life on the line to expose child exploitation in Mexico:

Fidia

"Why acknowledge her and giver her what she wants, attention."

Abraxas A.K.A. Gatekeeper A.K.A. Russell Kinkade, a convicted child sex offender and a defender of child prostitution shows how little regard these people have for childrens lives - attempting to assemble a defense for the exploitation these children had to endure:

Gatekeeper

What has happened to the children?

Is Ms. Cacho paying the rent and buying food for the families now?

Are there real jobs for the children?

Do the children gain anything from the Wallenberg Medal? Can they eat it? Can they wear it?

As a final thought, the perverts will often call themselves "childrens advocates," claiming that society denies "children the right to sexuality" (when what they're really claiming is that society makes it illegal for pedophiles to abuse children) - In contrast what motivates Lydia Cachos activism is a child's right to grow into an adult and to experience a healthy sexual life; free from the scars of child sexual abuse:

"I love sex, don't you?" she (Lydia Cacho) asks, laughing and tossing back her long mane of thick, black hair.

Some of Cacho's rage at the pedophiles she has tracked so obsessively comes from her certainty that they rob victims of normal sex lives as adults. She writes of Emma struggling with sobbing fits when she tries to be intimate. Cintia, Cacho writes, wears four pairs of underwear since being molested by Succar.

"Moved by fear," Cacho writes, "her sexuality had been closed off, her right to pleasure."

'I hope he died remembering her'

2009-10-01T00:42:00.000-07:00

"Jessica Lunsford had a smile that could light up a room. The 9-year-old’s picture has been on almost every television station in the country.

Lunsford grew up in Gaston County, but moved to Florida with her father, Mark Lunsford, when she was in elementary school. In February of 2005 Jessica Lunsford was kidnapped, raped and buried alive by a registered sex offender. On Wednesday, that sex offender, John Couey, died from cancer while on death row in Florida."

Coueys death comes as a welcome end to the case and brings with it a sense of closure to the Lunsford family, who have dealt with what this man did to Jessica for years. Mark Lunsford commented on Coueys death:

Lunsford recalled telling Couey at his sentencing that Lunsford hoped Couey would see his daughter every day for the rest of his life.

"I hope he died remembering her," Lunsford said.
He said he was not aware Couey had cancer.

"Cancer is an awful disease," Lunsford said. "Today, it's a good disease."

One of the prosecutors who led the case against Couey, Assistant State Attorney Peter Magrino, commented:

"The sooner the better," he said. "It matters not to me how he died, just that he's now dead and will never be able to victimize anyone else again."

Propagating so-called “good pedophilia"

2009-09-26T19:22:00.000-07:00

A hot topic over at the pedo boards (GirlChat and BoyChat) these past few days has been this news item:

"Polish MPs have passed legislation making it obligatory to chemically castrate certain sex offenders."

Chemical castration is used in several states in the United States, as a method for helping Sex Offenders curb any thoughts they might have of re-offending; but it wasn't this part of the legislation which had the "Childlovers" readying their weapons for total war against society:

Trillion

Forget compassion...

...because there will be none.

If this gets adopted by other countries, we'll have no choice but to fight. We won't be able to hide anymore then.

Secret Junior Acrobat

Alright then. Count me in for 'The Fight', when it

goes down.

The part of this legislation which had them up in arms was the section about criminalizing the encouragement of pedophilia:

"The legislation also criminalises any attempt to justify paedophilia or any claims that sexual relations between adults and children are not harmful.
Anyone convicted of propagating so-called “good paedophilia” is subject to a prison term of up to two years."

I'm sure I could think of a number of groups and individuals who we've talked about before, which would fall quite comfortably under the category of claiming "that sexual relations between adults and children are not harmful."

Anyway, on to the responses - the members of GirlChat and BoyChat read this and erupted with a torrent of anti-Poland remarks:

Griffith

"Where are Adolf and Yosif when you need them?"

Santi

"Hitler should be judged but not for the stupid charges made at Nurember and other trials ran by retardos (i.e. Bruttons and Gringos) but for allowing kikes to survive and for not thoroughly cleaning Poland."

Jessy

"That’s it I’m boycotting Polish stuff, and they can forget my tourism dollar!"

Secret Junior Acrobat

"With Poland making a move like this, we may be on the threshhold of a new "Inquisition"; that of ridding the world of "pedos". I'm a bit scared. But I will fight to the death to protect my right to life and opinion. We pedo's must be prepared to fight to the death when our future days become dimly lit."

We've said it before: no good can possibly come from pedophiles and sex offenders congregating online to rationalize and excuse their behavior.

And the results? Well, they speak for themselves.

'I luv it when a lil one calls me a pervert'

2009-09-25T02:33:00.000-07:00

Whose the creepy-looking (but strangely-familiar) fellow with the long hair, I hear you ask yourself?

His screen name on BoyMoments is 'Ddlibnkc,' but his real name is David Liberty; and he may seem familiar because we've already talked about him before - just over a year ago.

Back then, Liberty was being charged for possessing and distributing child pornography. But today, he will begin to serve his 36-year prison sentence for promoting and possessing child pornography.

Some of the photographs found in possession of this "Boylover" 'showed boys ages 8 to 12 dressed in diapers. Another showed a naked young boy hog-tied.'

It seems that Liberty had also taken a page out of Jack McClellans book, stalking children at public events with his camera:

"Liberty also had taken hundreds of pictures of young children in public at local fairs and festivals"

A criminal investigation into Liberty was launched after he was brought to the attention of police officers in Platte County, Missouri, by Wikisposure volunteers. But this isn't the first time Liberty had a run-in with the law for child pornography:

"Among the evidence prosecutors presented at the sentencing hearing was that Liberty was convicted in 2002 of possession of child pornography.
In that case, he was arrested in a traffic stop. Officers found rope, bailing twine, scissors, a dog collar and luggage straps in his car. Liberty was wearing a diaper and had a pacifier at the time, Zahnd said."

While Liberty was charged and convicted of child pornography related offenses, during the course of Wikisposures investigation into Libertys online life, they also uncovered admissions made by Liberty of having sexually abused a number of children. Not to mention a lot of disturbing comments:

WARNING: The following comments are disturbing in content - Reader discretion is advised

"I luv it when a lil one calls me a pervert just B4 he flops out his lil boy pack and begs me to lick it lick a lollypop
I fantise LOTS but only bout sucking n touching n dressing up n jackin"

"Of course its there lil peckers that makes me lick my lips"

"Oooooh I lik any kind of DIAPER I can put on or take off a young boy 5 to 10 yrs old.
Nothing turns me on more then to see that LIL BOY PACK throbbing just b4 I slip that DIAPER on THE BIGGER n THICKER the DIAPER on my boys 4 me please"

I think Platte County Prosecutor, Eric Zahnd, speaks for us all when he says:

"My hope is that with this sentence, this man will spend the rest of his life in prison and never have another chance to hurt another young boy,"

'Lust Desires and Energies'

2009-09-21T02:33:00.000-07:00

Ask any GirlChatter (or BoyChatter for that matter) what differentiates a pedophile from a child molester, and they'll tell you that the difference is that pedophiles "just looooooove children."

Kinda like this recent post on GirlChat:

Trillion

"I argued that there was a very definite difference between ped's and predators, and I pointed out to them using other OT examples the way that the media twists things and deceives the public.

I went on to argue the possible benefits of child/adult relationships, from the aspect of mentoring, role models, and the genuine giving of extra-familial love and support.

I kind of left it at that, not wanting to push my luck."

It's interesting how many contradictions you can find on the GirChat index page on any given day; Each, being applauded by the same idiots, who moments ago were saying something just the opposite. They can never keep their story straight...

A couple of threads further on down the GirlChat index page:

Feliz

"Now my first stupidity…
In another earlier post, I wrote that I had met another LG called A. who is a friend of K. What was I thinking? So I got K. who is cute and sexy, then why exactly do I need another little friend?"

"Well, guess what? I solved the problem. I no longer talk to A. From now on, all of my lust desires and energies will go to my pretty K. She’s the only one who I want to spend my time with while at the same time ignoring the other LGs around. Lastly, I want to say that I don’t find K. romantically attractive but I do find her very sexy, I mean, she’s developing a great body and I think she’s using a training bra. Moreover, I like to interact socially with her while at the same time admiring all of her features. Yum."

Pedophiles like kids because they have a sexual desire for their undeveloped bodies. There's no "love for children," that's a lie they want to believe. As hard as they try to maintain it - the weakly pinned together facade of "Childlove," eventually falls apart at the seams.

Putting a Damper on Spirits

2009-09-16T00:14:00.000-07:00

For those who have been following Azure's convoluted interpretation of his daily events involving a 10 year old girl on GirlChat; Dissident offers up this explanation on what's best for the child in Azure's situation:

"What does this all mean in the context of this post? It means that if you're an adult, and a young girl under 18 flashes you, then you have no other recourse but to look like you didn't enjoy it, and you must immediately tell her to stop doing it and give her a lecture on how "inappropriate" the act was. In other words, you must act like a total prude. This doesn't send a positive message to the girl about her sexuality, it will really put a damper on her spirits if she wanted you to see her nude, and it may not lead to her trusting you more than the average adult, but the law (and your continued ability to see this girl) leaves you no other choice."

Pedophiles always have a hard time separating reality from what they'd like to be reality (10 year old girls don't "flash"), but the message I want to talk about today is how Dissident takes this thinking error one step further. Going back to the start: Azures recent posts on GirlChat have been a series of "GirlMoments," where he boasts to his fellow perverts about having seen naked body parts of the 10 year old girl:

"She then came into my bedroom and said, "Is my top on properly? I can't figure it out!", and then with zero prompting, continued, "Oh fine I'll take it off!" - she clearly came in with that intention. Before I knew it she was topless, little micro-boobies right there. Of course I obligingly helped with the top, perhaps taking a little longer than normal due to being so flustered :)"

"Later I was in the bathroom and she came in, and showed great glee in going to the toilet in front of my very eyes. She even made a point of lifting her dress up high as she sat there. I could tell it was very calculated on her part."

"She came in with that intention" "It was very calculated" - These are the text book cognitive distortions, now re-read this part of Dissident's post:

"you must immediately tell her to stop doing it and give her a lecture on how "inappropriate" the act was. In other words, you must act like a total prude. This doesn't send a positive message to the girl about her sexuality, it will really put a damper on her spirits if she wanted you to see her nude"

And what does Dissident and the other freaks think is a positive message for a 10 year old girl?

That it's acceptable for adults to take advantage of her when she don't realize that she's being used? - that not only is it okay, but that it would "damper her spirits" not to?

This is how they convince themselves their behavior is acceptable: distortion upon distortion, lie upon lie: "the 10 year old wanted me to see her --> that's why it would hurt her if I told her to be more careful." Azure needs to remove himself from this situation immediately.

Rounding up Sex Offenders

2009-09-08T01:41:00.000-07:00

URGENT ALERT

We've got another Urgent Call to Safeguard Children from Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign - better listen up and pay attention.

Act now!

You need to use situations as they occur, anything to make an argument appear more relevant. Yes please everyone, exploit Jaycee Dugard some more - one sex offender wasn't enough for a life time - you need to FLOOD THE INTERNET

So speaks the RSOL, Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign. Heck they even tell you what to say

This article needs massive response. WE URGE ALL RSOL PARTICIPANTS TO WRITE ALTERNET AT ONCE!

The way we respond is to remove hundreds of thousands from the registry so the few who have been certified as truly dangerous by qualified professionals can be detained and treated until found no longer dangerous. Essentially, this would be to adopt the Canadian system, rather than the U.S. registry which destroys the lives of hundreds of thousands of non-dangerous people and their families, yet protects NO-ONE from real dangers. Alex Marbury and Kelly Piercy.

I'm just not understanding that. They want to round up sex offenders, detain and treat them until they are no longer "truly" dangerous? That just doesn't sound like them at all. Didn't they say

Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders
Abolish all laws that provide life in prison for sex offenders.

They lied!!!!! Now they want to round them up and "detain" them!!

The truth is that they'll say anything they think might convince people that they are something they aren't. They're all living - breathing contradictions. Their claim that the sex offender registry is what allowed Garrido to get by with holding Jaycee captive for 18 years. I'm sure you've heard the mantra

The truly dangerous are hiding in the registry

Of course that's not true. They aren't "hiding" they're right there where we can see them among all the other dangerous people who have created victims. Nor did GPS fail in this situation. The problem was Garrido wasn't wearing it in 1991. If he had been Jaycee would have been rescued immediately. There are over 22,000 registered sex offenders in California who are NOT on the public registry, because they are deemed low risk. There are less than 7,000 offenders in California wearing GPS monitoring. Some dumb ducks have taken that to mean that there are only 7,000 deemed dangerous in California. The truth is California uses GPS on offenders who are on parole. The cost is $6 a day versus $96 a day to keep them in prison. Parole allows an offender to complete his sentence outside of prison. Why would registered sex offenders complain about them having to wear GPS rather than spend their entire sentence in prison, and most of all why would they complain that GPS didn't help rescue Jaycee when he was not wearing it when he abducted her? The answer to all of this is that these people, these blame gaming fools thought they had an opportunity to exploit someone for their own gain. They chose the wrong story, again. And they chose the wrong state.

The mistakes made in this case are obvious: A judge who believed Garrido when he said he only raped because of the influence of drugs, so he gets his sentence reduced so he can gain access to drugs and victims again. Law enforcement who made the mistake of thinking since Garrido was in compliance that meant he was reformed. They took the deviousness and manipulative skills of a rapist for granted.

Sosen states that their goals are to abolish PUBLIC registration for sex offenders, and ALL registration for first time offenders. "All" meaning no law enforcement registration either. Interestingly enough Garrido was a first time offender..... you know the ones that keep offending but have only been caught once? I wonder if they'll rethink their idiotic ramblings? How about this one?

Long mandatory minimum sentences can have a number of negative consequences that serve to decrease, rather than increase, public safety.

I'm sure a lot of people would agree with the Sosenites on that one. Not allowing judges to be influenced and manipulated by rapists is dangerous you know. Long prison sentences make society more dangerous. We're much safer with them out of prison, without any community notification or restrictions.

It's all so simple I don't know why we didn't think of it ourselves.

Take a look at John Couey for example. For some reason Mary wouldn't mind him being on a registry. Of course she says that now - looking back with hindsight. The truth of the matter is, had Couey joined Sosen before he killed Jessica Lunsford Mary would have welcomed him with open arms and fought to get him off the registry just like she fought to get Garrido and the other 700,000 registered sex offenders she claims to represent off the registry.

Mary claims "prevention" is better. And of course monitoring sex offenders isn't prevention. No, Mary has given us very good tips for "prevention", so far her ideas include

Teach kids to Just Say No to child sexual abuse
Put labels on cell phones warning people they can be on a registry if they produce child pornography with it

Mary isn't interested in preventing sexual abuse. She's interested in preventing the prosecution of sex offenders.

Who is feeding this mentality? Let's see what pedophile activists have to say:

As already mentioned, there exist a number of well-regarded political movements that we can discreetly influence. Although they do not openly admit it, our influence will be vital to their long-term survival and development. And with power and connections of the kind we have not seen for decades, these groups are offering us a free ride, with minimal concessions in the long-run.

Central to the RSO movement are the families of Registered Sex Offenders, often cited as the unintended victims. However much some may dislike the nuclear family, no one is likely to lose an argument if their point of view serves its integrity.

Richard Kramer - self-identified pedophile and co-founder of B4U-Act, owner of MHAMic, and member of RSOL and BoyChat responds:

The fundamental issue we need to address is the defense of our humanity. We need to confront the stigmatization, demonization, and stereotyping that exists due simply to our attraction to children or adolescents, regardless of our behavior. To do this, we need to be honest about our sexuality. That's why I'm involved with B4U-ACT, and why, unfortunately, the "well-regarded political movements" listed in your editorial won't quite cut it, even though I agree with their goals. For example, the most successful RSO activist group, ReformSexOffenderLaws.org (RSOL), is opposed to the demonization and stereotyping of all groups, including pedophiles.

However, not everybody working for RSOL understands that, and a BL or GL working with RSOL would not be able to be honest about his sexuality.

Perhaps some Denial Therapy is in order

Just what we've been telling you!

2009-09-06T21:24:00.000-07:00

I have addressed this issue before but this post from girlchat has brought up the importance of good judgment when bringing men into your life when you have children.

Help, how do I express my love 2 my LGF? Come out?
Posted by azure on Sunday, September 6 2009 at 07:02:48pm

...or, 'How do I develop our relationship?'

Hi gang, I'm struggling here and in love. Same thing.

You might remember my BLB I've spoken of before, such as at http://www.annabelleigh.net/messages/476665.htm

To sum up, she's 10yo, and I get to hang out a lot with her as I'm in an adult relationship with another member of her family. She regularly tells me 'I wish you were my Dad', or likens me to a brother, and also a friend. She adores me, and I spend the whole day there being hugged and kissed.

It gets worse. Not only does this child hater/luster think its OK to fall in love with a 10yr old little girl but he thinks she is plotting their future:

It's come to the stage where I actually feel more love/lust or that 'new love' hormone rushing through me, for this LG, than I do for the person in her family to who I am 'really' involved with. The LG knows this, and has at times said to me, "I've already got a boyfriend", or, "you can't marry me you're going to marry her"! Along with the inevitable, 'you're too old!', comments...

But at times she regularly asks me to remind me how old I am (not that old!), or asks how long I'll live, or how old I'll be when she's 13 - like she has a plan for us, and is just working out if it'll work.

This is how the pedophile mind works. They twist a child's' innocence into something dirty and sexual with intentions of ruining that child's' innocence they delve into irrational thinking trying to reason away that underlying knowledge of "this is wrong".
Being a pedophile and lusting after children is something they know is wrong yet choose to keep on that road of child hate/lust.

So now he wants to tell this 10 yr old child that he loves her... like love like love you know lust.

So I just want/need advice on how to get these feelings out in the open:

Should I tell her how I feel for her, compared to my 'girlfriend'?
Should I say I love her more, and only stay with my 'girlfriend' as it allows me to see her?
Should I tell her if I left my gf, I'd never see her again?
Should I tell her how I hope in years to come we can be together properly?
Should I say anything else to develop our relationship?

I've only thought of saying the above, having first told her that what I am about to say is one of our secrets, and that she could never tell anyone, or even write it in a diary (!), even if that person promised not to tell. Only once I was sure she knew this was our true treasure chest of a secret (she likes that idea I think), would I go on.

But I am fearful, as at times when I have started to say something a little serious, she can revert to playing a 3yo and get all babyish. I know she has the potential to understand this 100%, but she's still on the brink.

So he is grooming her, its evident he is testing to see what she will do and how far she will go. A sensible adult would see this happening, but sadly, there are too many blind women willing to accept any man into their life.

And their children pay.

Plus I am concerned she is holding back from expressing too many feelings for me, because she knows I'm supposed to be in love with the other family member. In a way she doesn't want to invade that or tread on any toes. Yet at the same time, when we've had an argument (me and my GF), my LGF has said, "please don't split up"... I suspect because she knows if we did split up, I'd never she her again either.

I hope you can help me take the right path, as some of you no doubt have past experience of this all already under your belts.

Of course he has no doubts. He is at a pedophile message board.

And more children pay.