Propagating so-called “good pedophilia"

Saturday, September 26, 2009

A hot topic over at the pedo boards (GirlChat and BoyChat) these past few days has been this news item:

"Polish MPs have passed legislation making it obligatory to chemically castrate certain sex offenders."
Chemical castration is used in several states in the United States, as a method for helping Sex Offenders curb any thoughts they might have of re-offending; but it wasn't this part of the legislation which had the "Childlovers" readying their weapons for total war against society:


Forget compassion...

...because there will be none.

If this gets adopted by other countries, we'll have no choice but to fight. We won't be able to hide anymore then.
Secret Junior Acrobat

Alright then. Count me in for 'The Fight', when it

goes down.
The part of this legislation which had them up in arms was the section about criminalizing the encouragement of pedophilia:
"The legislation also criminalises any attempt to justify paedophilia or any claims that sexual relations between adults and children are not harmful.
Anyone convicted of propagating so-called “good paedophilia” is subject to a prison term of up to two years.
I'm sure I could think of a number of groups and individuals who we've talked about before, which would fall quite comfortably under the category of claiming "that sexual relations between adults and children are not harmful."

Anyway, on to the responses - the members of GirlChat and BoyChat read this and erupted with a torrent of anti-Poland remarks:

"Where are Adolf and Yosif when you need them?"
"Hitler should be judged but not for the stupid charges made at Nurember and other trials ran by retardos (i.e. Bruttons and Gringos) but for allowing kikes to survive and for not thoroughly cleaning Poland."
"That’s it I’m boycotting Polish stuff, and they can forget my tourism dollar!"
Secret Junior Acrobat
"With Poland making a move like this, we may be on the threshhold of a new "Inquisition"; that of ridding the world of "pedos". I'm a bit scared. But I will fight to the death to protect my right to life and opinion. We pedo's must be prepared to fight to the death when our future days become dimly lit."
We've said it before: no good can possibly come from pedophiles and sex offenders congregating online to rationalize and excuse their behavior.

And the results? Well, they speak for themselves.

'I luv it when a lil one calls me a pervert'

Friday, September 25, 2009

Whose the creepy-looking (but strangely-familiar) fellow with the long hair, I hear you ask yourself?

His screen name on BoyMoments is 'Ddlibnkc,' but his real name is David Liberty; and he may seem familiar because we've already talked about him before - just over a year ago.

Back then, Liberty was being charged for possessing and distributing child pornography. But today, he will begin to serve his 36-year prison sentence for promoting and possessing child pornography.

Some of the photographs found in possession of this "Boylover" 'showed boys ages 8 to 12 dressed in diapers. Another showed a naked young boy hog-tied.'

It seems that Liberty had also taken a page out of Jack McClellans book, stalking children at public events with his camera:
"Liberty also had taken hundreds of pictures of young children in public at local fairs and festivals"
A criminal investigation into Liberty was launched after he was brought to the attention of police officers in Platte County, Missouri, by Wikisposure volunteers. But this isn't the first time Liberty had a run-in with the law for child pornography:

"Among the evidence prosecutors presented at the sentencing hearing was that Liberty was convicted in 2002 of possession of child pornography.

In that case, he was arrested in a traffic stop. Officers found rope, bailing twine, scissors, a dog collar and luggage straps in his car. Liberty was wearing a diaper and had a pacifier at the time, Zahnd said."

While Liberty was charged and convicted of child pornography related offenses, during the course of Wikisposures investigation into Libertys online life, they also uncovered admissions made by Liberty of having sexually abused a number of children. Not to mention a lot of disturbing comments:

WARNING: The following comments are disturbing in content - Reader discretion is advised
"I luv it when a lil one calls me a pervert just B4 he flops out his lil boy pack and begs me to lick it lick a lollypop

I fantise LOTS but only bout sucking n touching n dressing up n jackin"

"Of course its there lil peckers that makes me lick my lips"

"Oooooh I lik any kind of DIAPER I can put on or take off a young boy 5 to 10 yrs old.

Nothing turns me on more then to see that LIL BOY PACK throbbing just b4 I slip that DIAPER on THE BIGGER n THICKER the DIAPER on my boys 4 me please"

I think Platte County Prosecutor, Eric Zahnd, speaks for us all when he says:

"My hope is that with this sentence, this man will spend the rest of his life in prison and never have another chance to hurt another young boy,"

'Lust Desires and Energies'

Monday, September 21, 2009

Ask any GirlChatter (or BoyChatter for that matter) what differentiates a pedophile from a child molester, and they'll tell you that the difference is that pedophiles "just looooooove children."

Kinda like this recent post on GirlChat:

"I argued that there was a very definite difference between ped's and predators, and I pointed out to them using other OT examples the way that the media twists things and deceives the public.

I went on to argue the possible benefits of child/adult relationships, from the aspect of mentoring, role models, and the genuine giving of extra-familial love and support.

I kind of left it at that, not wanting to push my luck."
It's interesting how many contradictions you can find on the GirChat index page on any given day; Each, being applauded by the same idiots, who moments ago were saying something just the opposite. They can never keep their story straight...

A couple of threads further on down the GirlChat index page:

"Now my first stupidity…
In another earlier post, I wrote that I had met another LG called A. who is a friend of K. What was I thinking? So I got K. who is cute and sexy, then why exactly do I need another little friend?"
"Well, guess what? I solved the problem. I no longer talk to A. From now on, all of my lust desires and energies will go to my pretty K. She’s the only one who I want to spend my time with while at the same time ignoring the other LGs around. Lastly, I want to say that I don’t find K. romantically attractive but I do find her very sexy, I mean, she’s developing a great body and I think she’s using a training bra. Moreover, I like to interact socially with her while at the same time admiring all of her features. Yum."
Pedophiles like kids because they have a sexual desire for their undeveloped bodies. There's no "love for children," that's a lie they want to believe. As hard as they try to maintain it - the weakly pinned together facade of "Childlove," eventually falls apart at the seams.

Putting a Damper on Spirits

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

For those who have been following Azure's convoluted interpretation of his daily events involving a 10 year old girl on GirlChat; Dissident offers up this explanation on what's best for the child in Azure's situation:
"What does this all mean in the context of this post? It means that if you're an adult, and a young girl under 18 flashes you, then you have no other recourse but to look like you didn't enjoy it, and you must immediately tell her to stop doing it and give her a lecture on how "inappropriate" the act was. In other words, you must act like a total prude. This doesn't send a positive message to the girl about her sexuality, it will really put a damper on her spirits if she wanted you to see her nude, and it may not lead to her trusting you more than the average adult, but the law (and your continued ability to see this girl) leaves you no other choice."
Pedophiles always have a hard time separating reality from what they'd like to be reality (10 year old girls don't "flash"), but the message I want to talk about today is how Dissident takes this thinking error one step further. Going back to the start: Azures recent posts on GirlChat have been a series of "GirlMoments," where he boasts to his fellow perverts about having seen naked body parts of the 10 year old girl:
"She then came into my bedroom and said, "Is my top on properly? I can't figure it out!", and then with zero prompting, continued, "Oh fine I'll take it off!" - she clearly came in with that intention. Before I knew it she was topless, little micro-boobies right there. Of course I obligingly helped with the top, perhaps taking a little longer than normal due to being so flustered :)"
"Later I was in the bathroom and she came in, and showed great glee in going to the toilet in front of my very eyes. She even made a point of lifting her dress up high as she sat there. I could tell it was very calculated on her part."
"She came in with that intention" "It was very calculated" - These are the text book cognitive distortions, now re-read this part of Dissident's post:
"you must immediately tell her to stop doing it and give her a lecture on how "inappropriate" the act was. In other words, you must act like a total prude. This doesn't send a positive message to the girl about her sexuality, it will really put a damper on her spirits if she wanted you to see her nude"
And what does Dissident and the other freaks think is a positive message for a 10 year old girl?

That it's acceptable for adults to take advantage of her when she don't realize that she's being used? - that not only is it okay, but that it would "damper her spirits" not to?

This is how they convince themselves their behavior is acceptable: distortion upon distortion, lie upon lie: "the 10 year old wanted me to see her --> that's why it would hurt her if I told her to be more careful." Azure needs to remove himself from this situation immediately.

Rounding up Sex Offenders

Tuesday, September 08, 2009


We've got another Urgent Call to Safeguard Children from Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign - better listen up and pay attention.

Act now!

You need to use situations as they occur, anything to make an argument appear more relevant. Yes please everyone, exploit Jaycee Dugard some more - one sex offender wasn't enough for a life time - you need to FLOOD THE INTERNET

So speaks the RSOL, Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign. Heck they even tell you what to say


The way we respond is to remove hundreds of thousands from the registry so the few who have been certified as truly dangerous by qualified professionals can be detained and treated until found no longer dangerous. Essentially, this would be to adopt the Canadian system, rather than the U.S. registry which destroys the lives of hundreds of thousands of non-dangerous people and their families, yet protects NO-ONE from real dangers. Alex Marbury and Kelly Piercy.
I'm just not understanding that. They want to round up sex offenders, detain and treat them until they are no longer "truly" dangerous? That just doesn't sound like them at all. Didn't they say
  • Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders
  • Abolish all laws that provide life in prison for sex offenders.
They lied!!!!! Now they want to round them up and "detain" them!!

The truth is that they'll say anything they think might convince people that they are something they aren't. They're all living - breathing contradictions. Their claim that the sex offender registry is what allowed Garrido to get by with holding Jaycee captive for 18 years. I'm sure you've heard the mantra
The truly dangerous are hiding in the registry
Of course that's not true. They aren't "hiding" they're right there where we can see them among all the other dangerous people who have created victims. Nor did GPS fail in this situation. The problem was Garrido wasn't wearing it in 1991. If he had been Jaycee would have been rescued immediately. There are over 22,000 registered sex offenders in California who are NOT on the public registry, because they are deemed low risk. There are less than 7,000 offenders in California wearing GPS monitoring. Some dumb ducks have taken that to mean that there are only 7,000 deemed dangerous in California. The truth is California uses GPS on offenders who are on parole. The cost is $6 a day versus $96 a day to keep them in prison. Parole allows an offender to complete his sentence outside of prison. Why would registered sex offenders complain about them having to wear GPS rather than spend their entire sentence in prison, and most of all why would they complain that GPS didn't help rescue Jaycee when he was not wearing it when he abducted her? The answer to all of this is that these people, these blame gaming fools thought they had an opportunity to exploit someone for their own gain. They chose the wrong story, again. And they chose the wrong state.

The mistakes made in this case are obvious: A judge who believed Garrido when he said he only raped because of the influence of drugs, so he gets his sentence reduced so he can gain access to drugs and victims again. Law enforcement who made the mistake of thinking since Garrido was in compliance that meant he was reformed. They took the deviousness and manipulative skills of a rapist for granted.

Sosen states that their goals are to abolish PUBLIC registration for sex offenders, and ALL registration for first time offenders. "All" meaning no law enforcement registration either. Interestingly enough Garrido was a first time offender..... you know the ones that keep offending but have only been caught once? I wonder if they'll rethink their idiotic ramblings? How about this one?
Long mandatory minimum sentences can have a number of negative consequences that serve to decrease, rather than increase, public safety.
I'm sure a lot of people would agree with the Sosenites on that one. Not allowing judges to be influenced and manipulated by rapists is dangerous you know. Long prison sentences make society more dangerous. We're much safer with them out of prison, without any community notification or restrictions.

It's all so simple I don't know why we didn't think of it ourselves.

Take a look at John Couey for example. For some reason Mary wouldn't mind him being on a registry. Of course she says that now - looking back with hindsight. The truth of the matter is, had Couey joined Sosen before he killed Jessica Lunsford Mary would have welcomed him with open arms and fought to get him off the registry just like she fought to get Garrido and the other 700,000 registered sex offenders she claims to represent off the registry.

Mary claims "prevention" is better. And of course monitoring sex offenders isn't prevention. No, Mary has given us very good tips for "prevention", so far her ideas include
  • Teach kids to Just Say No to child sexual abuse
  • Put labels on cell phones warning people they can be on a registry if they produce child pornography with it
Mary isn't interested in preventing sexual abuse. She's interested in preventing the prosecution of sex offenders.

Who is feeding this mentality? Let's see what pedophile activists have to say:
As already mentioned, there exist a number of well-regarded political movements that we can discreetly influence. Although they do not openly admit it, our influence will be vital to their long-term survival and development. And with power and connections of the kind we have not seen for decades, these groups are offering us a free ride, with minimal concessions in the long-run.

Central to the RSO movement are the families of Registered Sex Offenders, often cited as the unintended victims. However much some may dislike the nuclear family, no one is likely to lose an argument if their point of view serves its integrity.
Richard Kramer - self-identified pedophile and co-founder of B4U-Act, owner of MHAMic, and member of RSOL and BoyChat responds:
The fundamental issue we need to address is the defense of our humanity. We need to confront the stigmatization, demonization, and stereotyping that exists due simply to our attraction to children or adolescents, regardless of our behavior. To do this, we need to be honest about our sexuality. That's why I'm involved with B4U-ACT, and why, unfortunately, the "well-regarded political movements" listed in your editorial won't quite cut it, even though I agree with their goals. For example, the most successful RSO activist group, (RSOL), is opposed to the demonization and stereotyping of all groups, including pedophiles.

However, not everybody working for RSOL understands that, and a BL or GL working with RSOL would not be able to be honest about his sexuality.

Perhaps some Denial Therapy is in order

Just what we've been telling you!

Sunday, September 06, 2009

I have addressed this issue before but this post from girlchat has brought up the importance of good judgment when bringing men into your life when you have children.

Help, how do I express my love 2 my LGF? Come out?

Posted by azure on Sunday, September 6 2009 at 07:02:48pm

...or, 'How do I develop our relationship?'

Hi gang, I'm struggling here and in love. Same thing.

You might remember my BLB I've spoken of before, such as at

To sum up, she's 10yo, and I get to hang out a lot with her as I'm in an adult relationship with another member of her family. She regularly tells me 'I wish you were my Dad', or likens me to a brother, and also a friend. She adores me, and I spend the whole day there being hugged and kissed.

It gets worse. Not only does this child hater/luster think its OK to fall in love with a 10yr old little girl but he thinks she is plotting their future:

It's come to the stage where I actually feel more love/lust or that 'new love' hormone rushing through me, for this LG, than I do for the person in her family to who I am 'really' involved with. The LG knows this, and has at times said to me, "I've already got a boyfriend", or, "you can't marry me you're going to marry her"! Along with the inevitable, 'you're too old!', comments...

But at times she regularly asks me to remind me how old I am (not that old!), or asks how long I'll live, or how old I'll be when she's 13 - like she has a plan for us, and is just working out if it'll work.

This is how the pedophile mind works. They twist a child's' innocence into something dirty and sexual with intentions of ruining that child's' innocence they delve into irrational thinking trying to reason away that underlying knowledge of "this is wrong".
Being a pedophile and lusting after children is something they know is wrong yet choose to keep on that road of child hate/lust.

So now he wants to tell this 10 yr old child that he loves her... like love like love you know lust.

So I just want/need advice on how to get these feelings out in the open:

Should I tell her how I feel for her, compared to my 'girlfriend'?
Should I say I love her more, and only stay with my 'girlfriend' as it allows me to see her?
Should I tell her if I left my gf, I'd never see her again?
Should I tell her how I hope in years to come we can be together properly?
Should I say anything else to develop our relationship?

I've only thought of saying the above, having first told her that what I am about to say is one of our secrets, and that she could never tell anyone, or even write it in a diary (!), even if that person promised not to tell. Only once I was sure she knew this was our true treasure chest of a secret (she likes that idea I think), would I go on.

But I am fearful, as at times when I have started to say something a little serious, she can revert to playing a 3yo and get all babyish. I know she has the potential to understand this 100%, but she's still on the brink.

So he is grooming her, its evident he is testing to see what she will do and how far she will go. A sensible adult would see this happening, but sadly, there are too many blind women willing to accept any man into their life.

And their children pay.

Plus I am concerned she is holding back from expressing too many feelings for me, because she knows I'm supposed to be in love with the other family member. In a way she doesn't want to invade that or tread on any toes. Yet at the same time, when we've had an argument (me and my GF), my LGF has said, "please don't split up"... I suspect because she knows if we did split up, I'd never she her again either.

I hope you can help me take the right path, as some of you no doubt have past experience of this all already under your belts.

Of course he has no doubts. He is at a pedophile message board.

And more children pay.