Whose Line is it Anyway?

Todays 'Whose Line is it Anyway?' is:

These boys are being forced into treatment with those who have committed habitual offenses which means more than one sex crime on separate occasions. I have a major issue with that because it is detrimental damage to their psychosis. And this is consensual sex between a 19 and 16 year old.

Who made this comment?

UPDATE: The answer to this Whose Line is it Anyway is:

Mary Duval aka Tikibug aka Ricky's Mom who once made the infamous statement:

"I educated my ignorance"

Bitter Issues

Sosen is finally admitting they were affiliating with Nambla and yet they still can't even name them. Why is that? Is it because this is merely a desperate attempt to change their bad reputation and they know they must say SOMETHING but can't bring themselves to say that the RSOL - Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign is the modern Nambla and WARN other sex offenders who may be taken in by them?

They seem to have a policy regarding covering up criminal activity and child endangerment. But we'll get to that in a moment.

First, someone - to use the famous words of Mary Duval - finally "educated their ignorance" as to the difference between age-of-consent laws and Romeo and Juliet laws, however when they say "We also oppose the prosecution of juvenile offenders as adults and their placement on the sex offender registry" and group that statement in with their explanation of their position on age of consent and Romeo crimes, I have to ask - is this ALL juvenile offenders or only those who had "consensual" sex with their similar aged girlfriends? Does it include people like David P. Hoffman who molested 46 boys ages 2 to 16, and 10 girls ages 4 to 16 from the time Hoffman was 10 to 18 years old? Does it include people like Anthony Cantu who molested a 7 year old boy when he was 15, treated as a juvenile he went on to molest a 3 year old boy when he was 17. STILL treated as a juvenile he couldn't be held could he? And now at the age of 21 there's a store security video of him trying to lead a 4 year old child out of a store. Does it include the original sex offender activist Joseph Duncan whose first recorded sex crime occurred when he was 15 years old? In that incident he raped a 9-year-old boy at gunpoint. He was sentenced as a juvenile and sent to Dyslin's Boys' ranch in Tacoma, where he told a therapist who was assigned to his case that he had bound and sexually assaulted six boys. He also told the therapist that he estimated that he had raped 13 younger boys by the time he was 16. But of course he had been tried as a juvenile so....there you have it.

Then we have this statement:

We are well aware that over 90% of the time sexual abuse occurs in the home in the form of intrafamilial sexual relationships.

This is absolutely a false and dangerously misleading statement. The pedo groups themselves tell us how they find their victims:

• My neighbor's kid
• My co-worker's kid
• My friend's kid
• My kid's friend
  

Etc.

Very few sex crimes against children are committed by strangers, of the remaining it is almost evenly divided between family and acquaintances. They have taken the statement than 90% of victims know their offender and extrapolated it on out into a blatant LIE. Furthermore the sexual exploitation of children is NOT "sexual relationships". It is abuse. There is an offender and there is a victim. So when they say:

We must educate the parents or those responsible for their care as to the real dangers.

I have to ask the question: Is this how they propose to "educate"? I won't even go into their recidivism tactics. Like Tom Madison said "It's Pillar Number One". They are very aware that the DOJ report they rely on does not give an accurate reflection. They are very aware that sexual recidivism is higher 3.5%. This is just another example of minimization on their part. They cannot be upfront and honest or their "Pillar Number One" would crumble. Their mission is based on lies and misinformation. When they can step up and admit that there are sex offenders who are dangerous, who need to be monitored, who should never be allowed out of prison, that parents deserve to have the knowledge that someone they know has molested children in order to make an informed decision about affiliating with that person - and when they recognize the devastating effect of sexual abuse, then and only then can they in any way be considered legitimate.

Now - it's what comes next that's the real problem:

We must find a balance by which the psychiatric community has a degree of freedom in deciding to bring law enforcement into a matter.

They are trying to (among other things) rename child molesters. Now they are simply "people who need help".

Would you prefer that a child continues to be abused because a person desiring help is too fearful of prosecution to ask for such help?

They don't ask for help. They don't WANT help. Here's the part they don't understand:

THEY LIKE IT.

They say they need help after they've been caught. I actually saw some weirdo in Prison Talk claiming to be a therapist and saying that according to mandatory reporting laws if the client didn't tell her the victims name then she didn't have to report them. I don't think I need to explain to you why that's incorrect. Furthermore The Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers - ATSA has made it clear, Therapists are not investigators. That is not their role nor should they attempt to function as such. It is not up to them to decide who should or should not be prosecuted. Who are they accountable to?

What I would like to know is why Sosen believes that people who commit crimes against children should not be punished. I would like to know why they think the victim shouldn't be recognized and be able to get the help that THEY need as well. Why do child victims not deserve justice?

Now, let's think about this carefully. Sosen, Fred Berlin, Stop It Now! and people like them say that if we abolish mandatory reporting laws people will come forward and "get help" so they don't HAVE to rape babies any more. They also say that if victims know their offender won't be punished that THEY will come forward as well. Now how in the world would something like that work you might ask? Well if their theory was correct you'd have to have broad education wouldn't you? Wouldn't people have to KNOW that they wouldn't be prosecuted? Would it be sort of like giving free reign to child molesters? Would it sound something like this?

Are you molesting your daughter? Are you a Boy Scout leader molesting little boys? Are you preying on your children's friends when they come for sleepovers? Never fear, you can tell us and you will NOT be prosecuted!

I imagine the campaign to "educate" would look something like this:

Children are NOT going to tell if they know the person raping them - the person in AUTHORITY over them is going to be allowed to stay in their home with them. They don't feel safe to begin with! They have been abused by someone they should be able to trust! They have been manipulated, threatened and deceived. They are CHILDREN. They are not adults in little bodies.

And again:

We must find a balance by which the psychiatric community has a degree of freedom in deciding to bring law enforcement into a matter.

Would that be someone like the guy whose letter was posted on RSOL?

Letter to the Editor of the RSOL Digest (March 2009)

I want to commend Kelly Piercy for pointing out the importance of words and expressing oneself clearly.

I must however take issue with some points in the discussion of
pedophilia.

Piercy also makes good points in distinguishing clinical pedophilia,
i.e, the sexual attraction to prepubescent children, from violent
predatory non-consensual sexual activity, and advocating for treatment. He then undoes a lot of that good by placing in the middle of his essay
"Pedophile = active dangerous person."
Someone who just skims the article is going to remember that. I think you could see what I mean if I were to write, apart from everything else:
¨Sex offender (registrant) = violent dangerous predator.¨
While a small few are dangerous, we all know that the great majority are not.

Furthermore, Piercy neglects to give the origin of the word "pedophilia" which comes from the Greek "paidos" = "love" and "philia" = "children," just about the farthest thing form an "active dangerous person" there can be.

If some are uncomfortable getting into the "age of consent" debate, take heart from Piercy's point about dialog. The reasons they are a bad idea can be explained to anyone willing to listen with an open mind, but more importantly, as Piercy points out, we just need to keep talking to each other, especially when we disagree.

Dr. Rick DeMasi

That's the Dr. DeMasi - in case you're wondering - who was a child psychiatrist and confessed to HIS psychiatrist

Dr. DeMasi was precise about his desires. He was a pedophile, he told Dr. Ingram, and made no apologies for it.

Dr. Ingram told no one. Dr. DeMasi went on to molest his own 10 year old patient and Dr. Ingram? Well, he got sued. And lost.

At that point, Dr. Ingram said, he stopped psychoanalyzing Dr. DeMasi -- and Dr. DeMasi ceased to be in psychoanalytic training -- because psychoanalysis and unrepentant pedophilia are incompatible. Dr. Ingram said that by mutual agreement, their sessions continued only as generalized therapy, and his goal was to challenge Dr. DeMasi's thinking, manage his stress and thus try to make sure he did not act on his desires.

But Dr. DeMasi continued to defend them, presenting Dr. Ingram with a dubious study that children were not badly hurt by sex with adults and with historical anecdotes about sex between men and boys in ancient Greece. Dr. Ingram seemed to consider this progress.

''I was pleased to see that he gradually became interested in research into the area of adults loving children from an academic perspective, that is, he was beginning to explore the literature of pedophilia in order to bolster his arguments with me, and, in so doing, was engaged in a legitimate academic pursuit,'' Dr. Ingram said in his deposition.

"adults loving children"???? I hate to break it to him but that's not "love". It's true "hate crimes".

Dr. DeMasi was stripped of his medical license, served five years in prison and was released in 1992. His history since then seems to illustrate the deeply ingrained nature of pedophilia, which many experts describe as a sexual orientation.

In 1994, as Dr. DeMasi fought a return to prison for violating his probation, The Daily News received complaints from residents in Bayside, Queens, that Dr. DeMasi was cruising the neighborhood in a van and introducing himself to boys as a child psychiatrist. The newspaper reported that Dr. DeMasi told acquaintances that he planned to go to another country, perhaps Thailand, that was less actively hostile to sex between adults and children. In August 1994, he disappeared.

Law enforcement officials located him in Mexico in 1995 and extradited him to Connecticut, where he completed his sentence and was released from prison, without any probation conditions, on April 3.

John R. Williams, one of Dr. DeMasi's former lawyers, said he no longer knows where Dr. DeMasi is, but hinted that Dr. DeMasi might leave the country again.

Yes, he did indeed leave the country. I know where he is if anyone needs him. In fact, now he's carrying out his garbage online - still saying the same things he said over 20 years ago.

But what about his then 10 year old victim?

He resists therapy because he cannot overcome his suspicion of doctors. In fact, distrust colors many of his interactions.

''For you people,'' he said, ''this is just another day at work. For me, it's another day in hell.''

The ultimate betrayals. A parent who abuses or fails to act on knowledge of abuse, pedophile priests and pedophile doctors - including doctors who fail to act on knowledge of abuse: ie Fred Berlin. Oh but we should grant the psychiatric community the ability to decide for themselves shouldn't we?

Sosen says:

NAMBLA members have also turned up in other legitimate SOL reform groups which causes confusion and outright disgust to many in the public forum.

But the truth is that Nambla CREATED one of the biggest sex offender groups there is on the internet. The RSOL. Say it. Just say it.

Sosen says:

Many groups spend all of their time focusing on former offenders, people who have admittedly made wrong decisions and broken laws.

I don't know what "group" that would be, we don't focus on offenders past crimes, we focus on offenders and enablers who are endangering children with pedospeak.

It is evident that the quest NAMBLA champions is one far removed from that of SOSEN.

That's not evident at all. What IS evident is that everything Tikibug - the COO - has said has been repetitious recitations of pedophile propaganda. You can't take bullshit and put frosting on it and make people believe it's cake. Well you can try, but you'll never even get someone to nibble on it when the smell knocks them down from 2500 feet away.

HT Jacey

Who's Being the Face for That?

Rape shield laws are a sad necessity - borne from the classic defense of putting the victim on trial. This defense attempts to suggest that the victim was somehow responsible for her rape. A tactic that has been successful in the past due to rape myths perpetuated in the community; the most rampant rape myth is victim blaming. Bublick (1999 p1433) describes it this way:

According to the defendants, she is forever doing the wrong thing when a man is trying to rape her. She does not run soon enough, or far enough or fast enough.

Most of the thinking world now recognize this antiquated notion as a pathetic attempt to justify the criminal's behavior. However, rape crisis centers continue to warn of the dangers of subscribing to these beliefs. The New South Wales Rape Crisis Centre describes the dangers as follows:

* Make the rapist's actions less risky
* Make it harder for the victim to find support or get the police to act
* Make it harder to prosecute the rapist
* Make it harder for the victim to recover.

Rapists benefit from these beliefs.

Thus, it would be disturbing for anyone to support these beliefs - but when it comes from a registered sex offender, it is even more frightening. Colby Orthman is a registered sex offender and son of sex offender activist Jacquelyn Horst.

Quite frankly it is impossible to understand Colby's story because each time either Jacquelyn or Colby relay it, it changes. What is known is that Colby served time and has to register as an offender due to a sexual picture found on a cell phone of Colby and a minor female. I will not speculate here as to which story they have relayed is the truth.

Recently Colby appeared on the podcast "Americans Reality Check" hosted by Mary Duval and Kevin Meier to discuss 'sexting' and its consequences. He shared his perception of his experiences and captured the hosts imaginations with wild accusations as to the content of his therapy sessions while in prison.

When pressed by the hosts to elaborate on this subject, Colby explained further:

The Burning Bed was based on the true story of Francine Hughes - the first woman in the United States to be found not guilty of murder due to battered woman syndrome. There was absolutely no sexual content in this movie - it was made for television in 1984. A synopsis of the movie

"Fawcett plays a small-town housewife and mother of three who's pushed to the brink by her husband's mental and physical torture. With no resources and no way out, this mom will take a shocking stand to save herself and her kids. Based on Faith McNulty's book, this story helped bring battered woman syndrome into the spotlight."


Now please listen again to what was said and by whom:

Dare I ask - WHO could find this film pornographic? What kind of sadistic person could find the torture of another person erotic? Moreover, how does posing for Playboy relate to an actress's ability to star in a movie about domestic abuse?

The only ostensible explanation to me is that they want to perpetuate the victim-blaming rape myth. Colby Orthman and everyone who agreed with him is suggesting that you should judge Farrah Fawcett in the same way that defense attorneys want you to judge the victim. They want you to buy into the myth that victims have to look and act a certain way - otherwise they can't be victims....or even portray their struggles.

Society often judges victims of rape in a way that would be considered completely unacceptable with a victim of any other type of violent assault (see The Rape of Mr Smith). As one author stated, it equates to suggesting that a hold-up victim 'asked for it' by carrying money in their pocket.

Would Colby, Kevin and Mary have felt that Fawcett couldn't "be the face" of a mugging victim? A murder victim? Of course not.

So why then is she disqualified from portraying a rape and abuse victim? These sex offenders/sympathizers are clearly tying Fawcett's portrayal of a victim to a behavior - the very foundation of victim blaming.

They are "being the face" for the perpetuation of rape myths. This is UNACCEPTABLE and not exactly the smartest position a sex offender could take - what it suggests to reasonable people is that you're on a registry/have a family member on a registry for a very good reason and we shouldn't let you/your family member off it any time soon.

On the Side of the Center

Ricky's mom - Mary aka Tikibug, Buggy, Hell's Bug, and HotRodAnimal requested that I write an article about her. I thought it was a little strange but hey, I've got no problem with it. What I DO have a problem with is her.

Mary pretends I have a problem with her because her son is a sex offender or because she speaks her mind. But it has nothing to do with her son, and she knows this. I've said if I were in her shoes I'd fight for my child too. Nor does it have anything to do with the fact that she IS speaking up. It has solely to do with what she's saying and the fact that she is actively promoting legalized adult/child sex.

Just the other night Derek made comments regarding "his side" of the issue of sex offender laws. He also made comments about people on the "other side" - his enemies - which he referred to as the Victim's Side. But isn't that one of the biggest problems within these RSO groups? They don't understand that there is not a "victim's side". Victims are the center of this issue.

Not only is sincere concern for victims blatantly missing in these groups but they routinely mock them, blame them, demean them and even deny their existence. Mary, who has said some of the most appalling things about victims that I've ever heard - fails to even raise an eyebrow from the people who follow her. The rest of us catch our breath in utter shock - but Mary's cohorts seem to not even notice- and why should they? They've been indoctrinated into the language of blame gaming. And Mary? She's been indoctrinated into the language of pedophiles.

A pedophile apologist is just as dangerous as a pedophile. But I believe Mary is more than that. I believe she's a pedophile activist as well. What else could you call it? On the one hand Mary says most child sexual abuse is committed by the child's parents. Then she says ONLY parents can protect children! Then she agrees with a schizophrenic multiple child rapist that the government has no right to set an age of consent - it should be up to the parents to decide their child is old enough for sexual activity or not. Who is going to protect children from those parents who exploit their own children? Or marry pedophile baby rapers and bring them into their homes to live with their children? Is it Marshall Burns of the RSOL who spoke of having sex with 13 year old boys in Boston in the late 1970's and says he's completely without remorse? He educated Mary. See.... even parents shouldn't have a say in when their child has sex because - they might teach them repressive morality. Thus:

Children should be defined as persons under the age of puberty.

Support broad sex education for children, and empower them to make their own decisions and stand up for their rights

Mary agreed. She put her name to the statement. She put her face to it. She put her voice to it. She did this because she's a woman completely lacking in integrity, honor, honesty, humility, intelligence and compassion. Except where sexual abusers are concerned.

Mary says she's "no dumb duck" and calls anyone who disagrees with her ignorant and yet - she fails to realize that you can train even a monkey to perform tricks the same way you can train a trashy hick to memorize pedo myths.

At the 1978 Boston Conference to form Nambla Dr. Richard Pillard said:

"Men and boys who love each other are engaging in a social experiment."

In 1998 Nambla members wrote a petition called "A call to safeguard our children and our liberties". Top signatory was Dr. Richard Pillard.

In 2007 the same petition was recycled and renamed An Urgent Call to Support the Well-being of Children and the Rights of Us All aka Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign or RSOL. The top signatory was Dr. Richard Pillard. All references to Nambla and "boylovers" were removed and information about the sex offender registry was added. The rest is identical.

Now in 2009, Dr. Richard Pillard is the introductory speaker for the new and improved Boston Conference held this weekend.

You see, Nambla discovered 30 years ago that people were never going to accept a group of pedophile activists who wanted to have sex with their little boys.

They changed their name in 1997 and tried to claim it was "to safeguard children". That campaign quickly died, probably aided along by the rabid support of Dennis Bejin, Nambla Steering Committee member known as "Diaper Boy" and implicated in the Jeffrey Curley wrongful death lawsuit.

But in 2007, they realized the time was ripe. New sex offender restrictions were popping up everywhere - how better to get what you wanted than to have women who were NOT pedophiles themselves promote your agenda?

Listen:

Look:

Listen:

You think Mary doesn't know? Of course she knows. She admitted she knows, not only that she has stated there should be no age of consent laws. There should be no registry, no residency restrictions, no GPS monitoring, no civil commitment, no polygraph exams on supervision. She has stated that victims and their parents should be "held accountable" while referring to the offender as "just a baby". She calls child pornography a victimless crime and says maybe it helps someone not molest children. She says a woman who won't allow her child to be alone with a bus driver is hysterical and to parents whose children have been abused as negligent. She says no law will stop someone from committing a crime.........therefore what? Anarchy.

Mary is a joke. She has bashed John Walsh, Mark Lunsford and other parents of murdered children, not just the laws they've supported but on a personal basis. She has referred to victims as "snot-nosed teary-eyed victims", she's cold, she's heartless, she's despicable and she's offensive to anyone except abusers and enablers.

She recently had Ron Book on her podcast to talk about the situation of sex offenders living under the Julia Tuttle Causeway in Miami. She referred to it as a "coup" and implored everyone to be on their best behavior because she was "literally representing 700,000 people". I wonder how many of those people WANT Mary Duval the ignorant, trailer trash supporter of adult/child sex speaking on their behalf? Let's look at how that turned out. All the RSO's in the chat room were calling Mr. Book "a hater" and "filled with anger" while saying things like this:

[9:05:59 PM] IWillNotObey am i the only one in here hoping his car crashes head on into a semi while hes on this show?

[9:12:22 PM] ladybear yes he is a professional victim and is making his daughter one too

[9:12:50 PM] Sex Offender Issues F U RON!!!!!!!

[9:22:50 PM] The Fallen One thanks y'all but i want a piece of ronnies ass

[9:38:15 PM] CRASH101 This guy is nothing more than a vindictive hate filled politician !

[10:10:57 PM] Sex Offender Issues Someone needs to give him another A--hole.

[10:15:21 PM] CRASH101 He is so full of HATE ! what a coward you are RON !

[10:15:33 PM] CRASH101 I want to punch this fuck in the face !

[10:17:05 PM] The Fallen One i'd punch him in the face if he was here then chokeslam him

[11:18:36 PM] Sex Offender Issues If I would've said what Mary did, I would not have appologized

[11:29:36 PM] ladybear IMO he has made his daughter into his poster victim and he willnot allow her to ehal

Listen:

Mary didn't get that at all. Lauren and people like Lauren are the center. Without recognition of the center Mary will remain as "clueless" as she was in those statements she made. Mary doesn't comprehend what's going on.

Listen:

In other words - you can talk about people however you want just don't get caught at it, and when you do lie about it. "I was just angry after the meeting" despite the fact that she ranted about her for two weeks straight. At least now she's ceased bashing Lauren and turned her venom to Ron. I have a feeling he can handle that little insignificant bug. Someone who has said the things she's said about victims and then DARES to say this:

"And if you can't show respect, then don't ask for none"

HT Jacey

If it weren't so tragic

"And I watched as they invented a whole new problem.....isn't that cool? If you're running out of things to do to sex offenders invent a new problem.......we have internet predators -- oh my goodness -- it's an epidemic -- these internet predators oh my gosh they're reaching their hands right through the screen and grabbing your children. Except that the federal government commissioned studies on the incidence of internet predators and they came up with exactly the opposite of what the government wanted to hear -- that it really isn't that much of a problem -- that mostly it's teen on teen goofing around and that most of the men on the internet are not lying about their age. And the girls who are falling for this are girls who unfortunately come from dysfunctional families and are reaching out to anyone for that love....But that's not what the legislators wanted to hear, so the American Public didn't hear it either."

---- Cheryl Griffiths

This suppressed study - available here - and kept top secret from the American public on the world wide web.... tells quite a different story than Cheryl and Derek Logue's distorted interpretations. It says that 97% of solicitations were by strangers, 48% by minors, 24% were regarded as "very or extremely upsetting or frightening" and 49% were not reported. The study also concluded that the offenders only pretended to be teenagers 5% of the time and still "identities are easy to disguise on the internet so the solicitors may not have been the age or gender they claimed to be"

While we know that children who have previously been abused make the easiest targets, Cheryl seems to regard it as acceptable as long as it is they who are the targeted victims.

"most online sex offenders are adults who target teens and seduce victims into sexual relationships. They take time to develop the trust and confidence of victims, so that the youth see these relationships as romances or sexual adventures. The youth most vulnerable to online sex offenders have histories of sexual or physical abuse, family problems, and tendencies to take risks both on- and offline, the researchers say."

Some recommendations include:

"Be clear about why sex with underage adolescents is wrong. Offender and potential offenders need to hear a clear message that nonforcible sex with underage adolescents violates the social responsibility adults have toward youth for objective mentoring and custodianship"

Contrary to Tikibug's assertion that the government has no right to tell someone when they are old enough to have sex, and Walter Howard's claim that children "need to be taught how to love" This study says:

"Youths need candid, direct discussions about seduction and how some adults deliberately evoke and then exploit the compelling feelings that sexual arousal can induce. Even young adolescents should be given basic information about the inappropriateness of romantic advances from adults. This information should include reassurances that it is normal to have strong sexual feelings but wrong for adults to provoke or exploit these feelings, especially with youths who are inexperienced in coping with sexual desire and intimate relationships"

Another key finding;

"A considerable number of online child molesters also possess child pornography and child pornography production is an important element in many cases, including situations where offenders solicit victims to produce sexual images of themselves"

Nationwide, federal prosecutors have indicted 2,289 defendants in online child solicitation and pornography cases this year. But I suppose Cheryl Griffiths would agree with the bold idiocy of Zman when he said

They could be protecting the country with their hacking skills or something, yet they want to go after defenseless child predators

The Justice Department's Project Safe Childhood has launched a new National Public Awareness Campaign. They've produced some amazing videos, not only aimed at educating potential targets of predators but also aimed at those who offend, a very nice warning of the consequences of preying on vulnerable children.

To stop this problem from becoming more pervasive than it is, we need three elements coming together. We need education, we need prevention, and we need enforcement. Project Safe Childhood pulls all those elements together to make sure we are keeping America's children safe.

Ricky's Mom says it was "just horrifying"

Karen Fletcher pleaded guilty to violating federal obscenity law based on several stories she wrote for her Web site, “Red Rose Stories,” which depicted the rape, murder and torture of children.

She had 29 members each of whom paid a monthly fee to be able to read those stories.

Karen will spend 5 years on probation. U.S. District Judge Joy Flowers Conti had told Ms Fletcher that she would've considered incarceration had it gone to trial...

“If anyone would have read the story and acted upon it, a little child could have suffered devastation that you would have had to live with for the rest of your life”

The prosecutor, Stephen Kaufman said “The individuals willing to pay money to subscribe to this Web site clearly have a very strong sexual interest in children — not just a sexual interest, but a violent sexual interest”

Ms Fletcher commented that she had been abused and just like the enabling women we keep running across she doesn't mind the harm to children which her words aid and abet

I may still be afraid of the monsters, but at least in the stories, they prey on someone else, not me.

We know of some of those people, don't we? Those who would be interested in these stories, those that need a picture in their minds, and those who go on to rape.

Robert Metz:

Investigators found 20,000 images of child and infant pornography on Metz's computer. One of the images depicted Metz performing a sex act on Amber when she was an infant. Others showed babies being sodomized and defecated or urinated on.

Williams and her two sisters spoke today at the federal court sentencing of their father, Robert Metz, who was ordered to spend 40 years behind bars for trading in child pornography. All three now-adult daughters said Metz had raped them when they were children.

The FBI arrested Robert Leslie Metz in 2007 as part of an investigation begun by Australian Federal Police, which forwarded information about Kissimmee resident Tony Guerra, according to an affidavit on file in U.S. District Court.

Tony Guerra:

A FORMER Disney amusement park worker who persuaded an Australian man to tape the sexual abuse of his six-year-old daughter and six-month-old granddaughter and distribute it on the internet has been jailed for more than 10 years.

He liked to hear children scream and recommended pedophiles go to Disney to look for girls.

Reported in Relapse prevention with Sex Offenders

"the longer sexual fantasies are maintained and elaborated on, the greater the chance that the behavior will be acted out in real life"

We know and understand this though don't we? We understand the dangers of pedophiles encouraging each other, we understand this extremely simple concept. But here we have a woman.....Tikibug aka Ricky's Mom .....who believes for some strange reason that she has an understanding adequate enough to "educate America". Let's take a look at Karen Fletcher's plea agreement, what was included in her stories, and then we'll look at what Tikibug "Miss Prevention" herself has to say about it.

Among the stories were the following, which underlie Counts One through Six of the Indictment:

1. "melinda. txt" in which an eight -year-old girl is kidnapped and raped; the rapist (a woman) becomes the doctor to the eight-year-old; the doctor then kidnaps her with her two-year-old sister who is also raped;
2. "4men2. txt" in which a f ive-year-old girl is raped by an adult male as his wife assists; the five-year-old girl is also forced to perform oral sex on wife;
3. "katie. txt" in which a six-year-old girl is kidnapped, drugged, and raped; piercing rings are applied to victim's chest and vaginal area;
4. "redonnashow.txt" in which an eight-year-old girl, nine-year-old boy, and four-year-old girl are tortured and raped as "slaves"; eight-year-old "slavew girl is tortured, raped, and forced to eat feces;
5. "jandj .txtM in which a two-year-old girl is raped and tortured; a four-year-old girl is raped as mother is tortured - both mother and daughter are murdered;
   
6. "M&M.docU in which a five-year-old "slaven girl is tortured and raped; a six-year-old "slave" girl is raped.

The defendant, Karen Fletcher, agrees that each of the six stories satisfies the following test for obscenity enunciated in Miller v. United States, 413 U.S. 15, 24 (1973)

But what does Mary Duval say about this? She believed it was "horrifying". Oh, not that the woman wrote it and publisihed it, but that she would be punished for it. She supports Karen writing these stories, just like the pedophiles on GirlChat and BoyChat, she believes that the stories might be a substitute for making children scream.

I have news for her......These were not stories about child sexual abuse. These were stories describing child and baby torture, rape and murder in a way to arouse sadistic pedophiles. They were written to feed into the thinking errors that pedophiles have that children like being abused. Mary Duval should hang her head in shame.

WOW! She has the same opinion as AZTRAM! He also compared Karen's 'suffer the children' fantasies to Stephen King! Let's see if we can clarify this for her. When Stephen King writes his fiction he's not trying to pass off monsters as a good thing to be. He's not trying to feed into the fantasies of monsters and rabid dogs. WTF is wrong with you Tikibug? Do you REALLY believe this crap? Or do you speak impulsively without thinking?

I believe that Ricky's Mom is so deep into denial that ANY mention of a sex crime is something she feels compelled to defend. Here's some facts for you wacked out nut jobs. I have never attacked Ricky. I have said repeatedly that I do not blame Mom's for fighting for their sons. But I HAVE attacked the rhetoric of the pedo enabling behavior and statements of "Ricky's Mom" and others. Contrary to popular RSO belief we do not go around "attacking any sex offender just because they are a sex offender". We are clarifying their lies and deceptions and if Tiki had an ounce of honest decency in her body we wouldn't have to be doing this. As long as her mouth is moving and these things continue to spew forth from her, I'll be here telling people what the fuck she's up to.

And while I'm on a roll here, the word PASTOR is not pronounced pasture. The word coerced does not have an H in the middle of it, and the word pedophile is in the Websters Dictionary right between pea-brained abuser and pissed-off anti. It is a common use word and they can tell their child-rapist in denial friend Walter that anyone can use that word without being a medical doctor. So he'll have to set his "practicing medicine without a license lawsuit" aside for now.

Karen Fletcher said

Let the stories paint a picture in your mind...

Ricky's Mom agrees. This to her equals prevention. Since she's all about 'prevention' let us look at her other forms of prevention that she supports.

I find that very interesting. Especially considering that it is not only accepted prevention techniques but also accepted by the very organizations that Ricky's Mom supports.

More than 80% of sexual abuse cases occur in one-adult/one-child situations.

Reduce the risk. Protect children.

• Think carefully about the safety of any one-adult/one-child situations. Choose group situations when possible.
• Create and lobby for policies reducing or eliminating one-adult/one-child situations in all youth-serving organizations, such as faith groups, sports teams, and school clubs. These policies should ensure that all activities can be interrupted and observed.
• Make sure outings are observable, if not by you, then by others.
• Find a way to tell the adults who care for children that you and the child are educated about child sexual abuse. Be that direct.

Why would she implement prevention techniques? This is the behavior Ricky's Mom believes is acceptable. Remember, this is a mother saying this:

This is also the mother who said the man who brutally raped a four year old should never get out of prison.....he should be shot she says. The same woman who signed the RSOL petition to abolish life imprisonment, civil commitment, the death penalty and age of consent laws..........allowing pedophiles to legally have sexual contact with prepubescent children. Ricky's Mom is not about prevention. The only thing she's about is justifying the behavior of people who harm children all to get her "baby" off the registry. She needs everyone she can get she says. Well go for it Mary. I'll be right here every step of the way watching you and telling people what's what. Because seriously now, to deny my first amendment right to counter your lies well..........that would just be 'horrifying" wouldn't it?

Denial Therapy for Blame Gamers

"The problem is, MOST child sex crimes or child abuse is caused by someone the child knows and trusts such as a family member. It is also mostly due to parental neglect. IF a child is NOT left alone or unattended, such as walking to and from school or the park then they could not and would not be abducted."

--Donna Kistler - Blame Gaming SmartAss

So speaks Donna Kistler, aka "Mrs. K"

It seems to me she's ineffectively combined two separate arguments and tried to make them one. Either most child sex crimes are committed by family members and acquaintances OR they are mostly committed by strangers. Donna can't have it both ways.

If they are committed by strangers then it's the parents fault. If they are committed by someone the victim knows then it's whose fault? Oh yes, the parents. Since we know for a fact that the vast majority of child sexual abuse is committed by someone known to the victim I fail to see how Donna's argument that MOST child sexual abuse is due to negligence on the part of the parent is a logical argument. We know there are many bad parents in this world, just like there are many scumbags of all sorts. Many times however it is not necessarily neglect on the part of the parent. We know these things without saying them......people like Donna don't. She's looking for a scapegoat. Did you see her mention once the responsibility of the people who actually commit the crimes? No, but you see her minimizing on their behalf. Why would that be? Why would she take away ALL responsibility for the actions of the offender?

Perhaps it's to defend her husband attempting to abduct a child, why he just couldn't have done that if the parents had been with her at that school now could he? See? It's not his fault.

It's time parents start being parents and watching their children. What exactly would you do differently if you knew a sex offender were in your neighborhood?? Watch your child better?? Why not watch them better NOW???

How do you watch your children BETTER if it's close acquaintances known and trusted by the victim who are committing the crimes? Perhaps it would be better to KNOW that the guy next door raped a 6 year old child 10 years ago when their child wants your child to have a slumber party at their house? ....... or when he agrees to walk your child to school for you? After all Donna did say it was best to trust someone to watch out for your child when you couldn't be there.........in the same breath she says most sex abuse is committed by someone known to the victim...........and using a stranger danger argument. It makes your head spin. We can't know ahead of time who will do these atrocious things, but we can use what information we have to give us clues of who definitely not to get close to. Most child sexual abuse is not due to abductions. Most child sexual abuse is not necessarily violent. Most child sexual abuse causes severe damage due to the psychological harm it causes the victim.

A frequent blame gamer argument is that they are reformed and no more likely to commit a crime than anyone else. And yet when someone believes them and trusts them and they betray that trust and molests a child, the blame gamers say it's the parents fault. This happened recently with the Dylan Thomas story, he convinced a family he was reformed after spending ten years in prison and all he wanted was a second chance and to finish his doctorate. They offered him that chance..........they believed him. He repaid them by molesting their 5 year old son. Tsand said it was the parents fault.

The fact of the matter is that it's no one's fault but the perpetrator. Personally I think it's quite stupid to believe them when they say they'd never do it again. I don't believe in gambling with children to find out. On the other hand though, no one forces these freaks to molest children. They CHOOSE to do it. Enablers don't recognize that, they minimize and rationalize on behalf of men who have committed serious crimes while making derogatory statements about their victims recovery.

Rod Wagner said:

"With 60 million victims of child abuse in this country, I'd say the vast majority "got over it." Whether it be war zones or whatever happens in this life, people learn and get on with life."

Tikibug said:

"We're not weak. I was a victim twice and I am not no snot nosed teary eyed little victim."

I've come to know many victims of child sexual abuse through the work that I do, and I've yet to meet a weak "snot nosed teary eyed" one. They are strong, they are courageous and they stare little shits like the bug in the face and say "fuck you, you're enabling pedophiles with your rhetoric."

Tiki laughed at a friend who didn't feel comfortable putting her little girl on a church bus with only a male driver on board. She said she was hysterical. And yet if the woman HAD done that and her child was molested the bugthang would have blamed the mother for being negligent. "She should have known better". Since Mary is all about "prevention" then she would know one of the main things you do to protect your children is to limit their contact with adults when there is no one else around.

I'm sure she would agree with Donna's philosophy, that it's always someone else's fault besides the actual abuser, and no one needs to know that they have a propensity to sexually assault others. They both signed the Reform Sex Offender Law Campaign, meant to abolish the registry, the death penalty, civil commmitment and life imprisonment in addition to age of consent laws which Tikibug has stated explicitly that she supports. Why?

Why is Donna out telling people THIS:

I am standing proudly by my husband and supporting him in his recovery process.... HE NEVER had a charge on a child plus, his crime was over 20 years ago when he was very young and high on drugs.

Or This

They also need to learn that more child molestation cases are NOT done by strangers.

Its about time society realize that children are in more danger of being killed by a drunk driver and drugs than by a sex offender. Reality is, too many children are left unattended by their parents and when something bad happens they want to blame everyone else without taking responsibility for their negligence.

Or this

A drug deal can go happen ANYPLACE, including a drug free school zone! Aren't you worried that your child will be given a drug or perhaps shot in the crossfire of a drug deal gone bad? Maybe we should post pictures of parents who neglect their children instead.

Or

a sex offender as we all know could be someone who stopped along the turnpike walked off the side of the road and urinated!

Or

Fact is the highest percentage of sex crimes are done by someone the child or family know and trust. Most often within the childs own home by a family member.

Realistically, IF a child is being watched and not left unattended the chances of any criminal activity happening to them would drop to an ALMOST non existent level. However, the majority of people don't take the time to watch their own children

Why would Donna say these things? Why would she say not to worry because strangers don't abuse your children then claim it's mostly by strangers due to parental neglect? It's because she's merely repeating mantra's and she lacks understanding of what she's saying. This is a woman, just like Tikibug, who is so deep into the denial process that she doesn't even realize what she's said. Not only can she not organize her thoughts properly, or the facts but she doesn't even understand those who speak out against her. Tikibug and her "circle" as she calls them believe we are attacking her son and no matter how many ways you explain it they will not ever understand because they are all so mentally disturbed. Here's a quick fact AGAIN, What I have to say about Tikibug has nothing to do with her son. I do not blame her for fighting for him one bit, what I have a problem with is her fighting for and associating with pedophiles and unrepentant, unremorseful, violent, distorted sex offenders who are USING and exploiting her and she's not only allowed it, she's fighting for them tooth and nail.

Linda Pehrson claims she doesn't fight for pedophiles and yet she ignores members of her own forum who are obviously on the verge of hurting someone and then tops it all off by naming Walter Howard as her webmaster. WTF was she thinking?

These women, who Walter and Kevin believe will save them all, are women who all claim to have been victims as children and yet show no compassion or understanding of the lifelong problems from psychological abuse that many victims may have. I wonder if they are so quick to defend those who sexually assault others because of their own psychological damage. Who knows? What I DO know is that Donna's husband is someone who is the epitome of the reason for the registry. He IS the one who should be on a registry. She can't argue her case by telling the truth. So she points to imperfect parents, and she points to public urinators and Romeo and Juliet cases. But she doesn't tell you that her husband broke into a womans home and raped her in the night, that he attempted to do that to two other women and spent 15 years in prison for it. And she sure doesn't tell you that he was released from prison on July 26, 2004 and on July 19, 2005 he tried to pick up a 9 year old child outside an elementary school.

It just wouldn't fit with the blame gamers plan would it?

Gangs of Thugs

Absolute Zero has been focusing heavily on RSO activists for the past 9 months. And while I think it's obvious to everyone here just exactly how devious and heartless those people are, there may be a question as to just what exactly that may have to do with an anti-pedophile blog.

Is there a difference?

In RSO activism and pedophile activism?

If there is, I've yet to find it. Their rhetoric is the same as the pedophile activists - the only difference is that the RSOs try to put disclaimers on theirs by stating "We don't support pedophiles!" while supporting pedophiles.

As if no one would notice.

The CEO of Sosen for example signed that pro-pedophile petition which called for the abolishment of virtually all restrictions and punishments regarding sex offenders AND calls for the abolishment of age of consent laws for prepubescent children. When confronted with this Sosen claimed ignorance and the woefully stupid statement that "there are no pedophiles in our group". Apparently they believe that because they can't see them they don't exist -- And yet, they can't see ME -- does that mean I also don't exist?

What it all boils down to is this... those people will say ANYthing whether or not it's true, whether or not they believe it. They will stab their own supporters in the back to get what they want. When all is said and done they have a "ME ME ME" mentality. So while they do understand that they need each other they would be more than willing to throw their brother under the train if it suited their purpose at the time. They react thoughtlessly, and impulsively and if they are ever sorry for one second for something they've done, they would never admit it, they would never express remorse. Jan Kruska is a fine example of this one. She's done more to hurt sex offender groups than any other single person or group of persons combined.

There are approximately 600,000 registered sex offenders in this country. Of those there are only a handful that are activists. Of the activists there are only a handful that are sex offenders. Why is that? Because they have their enablers doing the dirty work for them. These co-dependent mousy women whose lives depend on 'standing by their men' whether it's their spouse or their child, they will rationalize for them. Minimize their crime. Blame the victim. Bash the victim. Mock the victim. They'll lie, they'll cheat, they'll even steal. They'll try to find ways to rip off the system, and the taxpayers. They'll call you ugly names and accuse you of being ignorant and uneducated. They'll say you're a professional victim. Or in the case of Cheryl Griffiths, she'll just call you "disgusting" "scum sucking idiot" etc etc etc

So, no, not all activists are RSO's. Some are family members and some are in it for seemingly altruistic motives. Think Margie Slagle, Sarah Tofte, Niki Delson. Their thinking is just as distorted but without the same motivations present. It's no less dangerous, it's no less outrageous, and it's no less supportive of pedophile causes.

Sometimes these activists say things like "these sex offender laws should only apply to the ONE PERCENT of RSO's who are truly dangerous" The question that begs to be answered then is "who do they consider dangerous"? Obviously not those repeat offenders deemed at high risk of re-offense at Coalinga Hospital. After all, they rallied to get them released.....against the advice of experts. And where do they get that one percent figure? Well, they SAY that the majority of registered sex offenders were convicted for consensual sex, or for drunken mooning or for peeing behind a bush. Well that may or may not be true, but if it is, I've yet to see someone charged for peeing behind a bush and put on a sex offender registry. And if it HAS indeed happened, it's not one of THESE people we're discussing. No, their offenses are far worse than that.

This is what I think. I think they need to stop blaming society, the government, parents, and the victims for what they think is unfair and look to themselves and try to find what's missing.

Perhaps instead of blaming, minimizing, rationalizing, bashing, mocking, lying, cheating and deceiving they should tell Lee Lee to take care of her other children before they turn out the same way. Perhaps they should tell Linda that it's not appropriate for her to ask for donations considering her welfare fraud conviction. Perhaps they should tell Tikibug to stop posting on pedophile websites. Perhaps they should look long and hard at exactly who they are involved with and the projects they're undertaking on their behalf. Perhaps. And yet, perhaps is a word too big for these people. Perhaps has possibility. These gangs of thugs have none.

HT to Jacey