Happy Alice Day

Repost from April 25, 2007. Help us countdown to Alice Day 2008!

This is tough work we do, isn't it? I think it's time we all took a breather. So kick back and help us as we celebrate the Anti's hijacking of Alice Day.



If you'd like to see more visit HEREand HERE and HERE

Thank you to all the Anti's!

Lindsay Slipped ~ Oops

Is anyone here aware of the new effort against Lindsay Ashford? Petra Luna is calling for search engines to de-list Lindsay. (Hey Lindsay, here's a clue.....they can). Petra went on KTRH Newsradio and was interviewed by Scott Braddock concerning this effort. You can listen to it HERE

Scott also interviewed Lindsay. You can listen to it at the same location....if you can stomach it. It was mostly just more of the same old nauseating drivel that emanates from the words and writings of this sick twisted sissy-man. But there were a few things from the interview that I wanted to make note of. Let's start here:

Scott: Do you think that children who have any type of sex with adults grow up to be well adjusted?

Lindsay: I think that some do.

Scott: Do you know of any?

Lindsay: I know of people who had sexual encounters when they were elementary school age children.

Scott: And you think they're alright?

Lindsay: I think they're fine.

Let's stop there and first look at his one-time partner Todd Nickerson. Todd was molested as a small boy, I believe it was a fondling episode. To this day he can't come to terms with it. "Did the man care for me?" He still asks himself. Well, Todd, I'm sorry to say, that no, no the man did not care for you. He merely groped you, that's what perverts do. When you go on one of your rants, when you're confused and tormented by it.......you are asking the wrong people for advice when you go to GirlChat for answers. They are perverts! What do you expect? Perhaps you should try writing a survivor letter to your abuser instead.

As for Lindsay, he failed to tell Scott Braddock that he himself was molested by his babysitter when he was 4 years old. He failed to tell Scott about how he never told anyone, how it tormented him and he thought of it as a trauma, how screwed up it made him when he was going through puberty. He failed to tell Scott about his multiple suicide attempts and his bipolar disorder. His multiple hospitalizations in mental institutions and how he is still not alright to this very day. Yeah he left off that part. But, moving on....

Scott: So there should be no laws regarding people who for example do what most people consider to be molestation of children?

Lindsay: I think that there should be laws against any form of sexual contact which are obtained by force, coercion,manipulation or deception.

What? Lindsay agrees! There should be no deception! Then what do you call all that rubbish on your website, Lindsay? All those twisted and skewed academic articles? The twisting of Ken Lanning for example, and gosh darn even the DOJ report, you've screwed that up too! How do you explain the ethics behind manipulation of facts for the purpose of deceiving people, which is in turn to create some sort of change of opinion about you and yours?

How do you explain your actions? That's not honesty.....so why would you feel people should take what you say seriously and believe you when you say that you wouldn't harm a child under any circumstances when your entire website is a purposeful misrepresentation? Why should they believe you when you say that a child who was abused wasn't really abused? Or when you say your website is not hosted in the Evil Empire then try to claim free speech protection under the American Constitution? Why should they trust you to be a fine, up-standing man when you post what you know to be a form letter from StC....which they rescinded...and you leave it there when they request it be removed and your sole purpose is to deceive people into believing that StC endorses you?

Why should they feel anything other than repugnance when they see you mock society....or children who were abused, or murdered? You are a walking, talking, breathing LIE, Lindsay Ashford. You are dishonest, unethical, calculating, malicious, and unconscionable. But there's more:

Lindsay: I think that so long as there is consent and respect that children should be allowed to....

Scott: Do you think that a 5 year old grasps what's going on well enough to be able to consent to sexual activity?

Lindsay: A 5 year old understands friendship. A 5 year old understands affection.

Scott: So can a 2 year old?

Lindsay: A 2 year old understands pleasure.

Scott: So they can consent to sex?

Lindsay: They can consent to pleasurable activity

Scott: Can a 6 month old do that?

Lindsay: I'm sure that 6 months old also have nerve endings and understanding and an understanding of what is pleasurable to them, yes

Scott: So a 6 month old can consent to sex

Lindsay: A 6 month old can consent to activity that it finds pleasurable

Scott: And so you don't understand why you get death threats?

There you have it. A condensed version, but if you can bear it go listen to the entire thing. Let's see what the girl chatters had to say about their hero

Hayaku: She should get the hell of the internet. The last frontier of free speech, and a very exciting one, and a bunch of mentally ill christofascist bitches with nothing better to do than make stupid petitions and complaints try and spoil it all.

albertross: lindsay - you hit every ball home - i could almost believe your interviewer was feeding you lines from a script - he was classic, and you walked him smack into every wall on the court. well played, sir - absolutely impeccable.

Was he listening to the same interview I was??

Elminster: You're my fucking hero, dude! You have balls the size of Jupiter!

Student: Aside from being articulate, you have a delightful accent, man.

LOL, read more about that here.

"The Brits are really surprised when I say I'm
American, because my accent is really good, so
I'd say that I'm the second American who can pull it off."

For the record, he's from San Francisco and if you listen carefully you'll hear him slip sometimes when he's talking. Some things you can only fake for so long, in fact he did it in this interview.

Student: That 6-month-old baby he threw at you was uncalled for. I suppose he was just trying to trip you up and test you for consistency, but it certainly drove down the amount of rational thought going on in his listening audience, which was already pretty low. Lindsay, you have Balls of Titanium

Hierophant: I was almost in tears luaghing at the Texas radio host.

Trucker: TOOT TOOT!!! (NT)

Hayaku: More nutjobs that make no sense fighting us. Makes us look like the smart ones.

SUNDAYS AND CYBELE: cant wait for judgement day and the 2nd coming. BURN ANTI'S BURN!

Febri-chan: God bless puellula and Mr. Ashford until and beyond the end of the world!

Norbert: Who made a better case?

LOL I believe that was a rhetorical question.

Let's take a breather!

How about some fun? I could use a chuckle myself. Anyone hanging around AZ for long has surely gotten a taste of the bizarre things the pedophiles say. So I've devised this little poll here, to let your voice be heard....who do you think is the most repulsive?

I couldn't fit them all in of course, so I've left some off. For instance Debatecrime / Lepidopterist / Winston Smith who is so dimwitted as to have nothing of value to say. His only purpose is stirring up trouble and then running to the pedo boards for rescue. Well, he was doing what he was able to do you might say.

Then there's Todd Nickerson. He's pretty much a lame - duck - pedo at best. His hands are tied concerning freakopathic activism. Why he's so busy doing free graphic work for GC to repay the Save the Children funds he stole to pay for his trip to Michigan and his new computer monitor, that he'll probably never be able to move out of his Grandma's trailor at this rate.

And there's more of course. Take Taf-Kat - John Hodson, for example, we talked about him HERE convicted of some 70,000+ child porn images, he believes it's a victimless crime, and should be legal. He denounces adult-child sexual contact however and recently left Girl Chat when Nihil and Enigma began their pedopathic campaign.

I suppose I could go on and on with these freaks, but instead let's skip to the poll. Choose the one you find The most repulsive. Hard to decide, I know, I know. If you have another choice not listed just add it to the comments, please.

Poll is in the side bar!

Charitable Delusions

This blog has covered the on-going Save the Children fiasco within the paedophile community. If you are unaware of these events, here's a brief history:

- Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson gathered donations from the paedophile 'girl lover' community and made a donation to Save the Children in the name of 'GirlLovers Alice Day'

- Save the Children clearly did not pick up on where the money was coming from and sent back a generic thank you note.

- Ashford proceeded to post the thank you note on his site, claiming We are glad that Save the Children, despite the prevailing antipathy against girllovers, has seen fit to accept our gifts and in so doing recognized our commitment to aiding the empoverished children of the world and enabled us to do so.

- A contributor to this blog alerted Save the Children to the situation and the donation was promptly returned.

This situation has caused great angst in the paedophile community. Members of this blog have suggested that paedophiles who want to donate to a charity should make the donation anonymously. This would help children (which they *say* is their real agenda) without causing respectable organizations to turn them away. This suggestion was met with great furor amongst paedophiles. But it seems that, of late, they've reconsidered. However, it's also brought out the paranoid delusions that they're so famous for:


Porcelain carries on like a raving lunatic:

I've thought about donating something, however, I am absolutely paranoid about leaving a paper trail anywhere, especially 'credit cards', given how many people have been assaulted because they submitted a credit card for access.

Are there ways to get donations that do not involve: Postal Services, especially the US Postal service, traceable bank transfers, included credit cards, etc.

I once read about using calling cards one can purchase most anywhere, however, if push came to shove, a calling card does have an identifiable amount of information that at least would place a user 'somewhere' in the world, thus, for the paranoid, is to close for comfort.

Why would I worry about a cash donation via the US postal service... well most letters these days are given a tracking number very close to the mail box the letter is taken from, hence, a route, especially in less populated areas, would allow the all pervasive government to narrow a search down considerably.

Am I paranoid, you f--king bet. Some may pass it off as delusional, however, there are too many reports like the one that Taf-Kat posted, were someone has their house raided, because they just may 'know' someone who is suspect.

The news recently has had a number of revelations about how the government, using complient organzations, banking, communications providers, etc. where millions of transactions have been monitored in some way. Perhaps via automatic pattern recognition methods, but just the same, some pattern matches, you are survailed more closely.

But then once the truely anonymous donation has been sent off, how, really does one 'know' that the donation ever really reached the destination, other than say, for GC, when someone posts who has donated recently.

Even in big time organizations, there have been cases of fraud, misuse of funds, etc. and that is with yearly auditors checking the book

Demonsthenes advises:

Straight up cash isn't trackable (unless you're worried about them finding finger prints... so use gloves? :-p)... and just drop it in the mail when you're on vacation (again.. if you're paranoid about finger prints... use gloves :-p). Sure, they'll be able to track it down to the general area that you mailed it from, but that won't matter so much, will it?

Porcelain still isn't convinced:

Paper is very absorbent of environmental elements... US currency is identified by the region it was issued from... licking the stamp or envelope leaves saliva, which can and will be used in a court of law...

When finding a needle in the haystacks, it is beneficial to know which haystack to look at... when finding a radio active needle, ie one that emits, again reducing the number of haystacks that have to be exhaustively searched is beneficial...

Paranoid... no just read the news...

Infinity furthers the advice given by Demosthenes:

Just buy a self-adhesive stamp (no licking)...and use TAPE to seal the envelope...and as Demo said you can mail it from ANOTHER place not near where you live. Wrap the cash in several pieces of paper...or put it in a card. There is just no way they can trace you if you take those precautions. If you were really that adamant about it all...buy a cheap pair of surgical gloves to do all of that, no finger prints. How safe if that?

For the record...most posters who donate to GC do all or most of these things...although some of them do mail them from the state they live...of course those envelopes are completely destroyed, so the danger is non-existent.

And Baldur elaborates even further:

. . . you can also get self-adhesive envelopes now, which do not require licking.

Even if you wish to use traditional stamps and envelopes, you can "lick" the stamp and flap with a wet sponge or a wet cloth. If you're really concerned, use bottled water - though I have yet to hear of the authorities analysing the residue from tap water to deduce the source.

Right. A charity organization is going to raid your house for making an anonymous donation. Keep in mind that these are the guys who keep proclaiming that they're not doing anything illegal. Makes you wonder what they're so psychotically paranoid of someone finding.

Truth in Advertising

After Save the Children returned the donation to Todd Nickerson, Lindsay Ashford advised they should not cash the check. The money would remain in StC account and therefore he could leave his fake endorsement on his website. But Todd took matters into his own hands, and decided to cash the check and disperse the money anonymously without telling anyone where. The purpose being :

There'll be neither bragging on our part nor harassment on the part of the antis.

To make matters worse he then received a LETTER from the State of Connecticut Attorney General's Office

I urge you to immediately remove this press release from your website. Your failure to do so may result in the imposition of civil and criminal penalties.

At which point the bickering started in earnest.

Todd:

It is illegal to post a charity's name without permission.
Hopefully Lindsay will just take it down

Lindsay:

To be honest you brought this upon yourself.
Todd, you were not the organiser of this campaign. I was.
As for your decision to cash the cheque, I am still opposed to that.

Todd:

While you are technically correct -- the money does not belong to me -- I frankly don't give a rip.
This community is rampant with cowardice, small-mindedness and hypocrisy.
If you threaten me, I WILL pursue it legally. I know who you are and I have your mother's phone #.
I am not a trained monkey this community can shoot into alien territory to see if it's safe for humans
If I'd thought for a second that they would throw me in jail because YOU put something on your website that they didn't like, then I would NOT have attached my name to this project.
I see myself as a sailor on board a ship with a captain who was making a very bad decision.
F*** you and the other assholes here. If you cared about your own community you'd think twice before you backed me into a corner of desperation.

piz

This charity thing will have ended up being of no benefit to us whatsoever.

Todd:

I'll be the one they go after, not Lindsay. They can't catch Lindsay -- he can put whatever he wants on his site, and they can't touch him as long as he's out-of-country.

LGinmyheart:

Lindsay is not living in the Empire as of now, therefore they can't get him -- they will gladly get Todd instead.

Minstrel:

It doesn't give him a 'blank check' to do as he pleases with the money we donated

Marco Polo:

You are beyond the pale Todd

Febri-chan:

I trust Todd infinitly more than I trust Lindsay

Enigma:

We lost respect for you after you stole the money.
You should be sued for what you've done.

Myrddraal:

You're on the short list of people at this site I would feel OK about being around a child

Dissident:

If you think Todd is one of the few here who would be safe to have around your kids, I take that as a major insult, especially when you consider how unstable he can be

Demosthenes:

That money is not yours and you have no right to do anything with it that you happen to decide. The people who donated that money did so with expectation......
You have repayed us with betrayal

BB:

I can only recall very few people that I've actually lost all respect for around here and I'm sorry to say I now count you among them.
You're despicable Todd

Baldur:

StC needs to go down in flames

Todd:

Let it be known .... that you and a few others here have made me into an enemy. I expect you will come to regret that.

THIS is StC's TOS. FYI: Save the Children is an INTERNATIONAL organization. Lindsay violated IP laws. He shouldn't be so sure of his untouchability.
He's willing for Todd to take the fall, be sued on civil charges and possibly charged for criminal acts. All so he can keep what he uses as 'endorsement' on his web page.
This is a total lack of integrity and ethics.

And he wants society to accept what he is and believe his dripping-with-saccharine-self-proclaimed-child-lover-I'd-never-harm-them testament??

Get Real Lindsay! You're as fake as a three dollar bill and as transparent as glass.

Randomly Speaking

Just some random words from freakopaths:

JD420 says:
Funny you should use the term... 'riot'...
...half of my training and development involves starting one - usually directed at me. The other half, of course, involves snapping necks 'till the mercenary sheep get the clue to switch sides - which is the real goal of doing such a thing... ;)

And speaking of "anti's" ....Poor tactical sense, poor construction, attacks on innocent bystanders, poor writing skills, a need to bury the facts, being openly notable in outright deception, poor reasoning skills, and much, much more ensures that they put themselves at a loss

Oh well, let's move on and check out what some of the others are saying:

If the children were taught the truth rather than having it held back from them under some thin excuse of "they're not ready", then the children wouldn't be so easily manipulated or exploited. Children are not more easily manipulated or exploited due to some mystical quality of being a child, they are more easily manipulated or exploited due to a lack of experience and knowledge

I'm sure most children would choose to make out with a handsome sugardaddy rather than getting beat by drunk daddy every Friday night.

Whats the one thing a woman can say that will make her sound interesting? "Well my son is 10"

guess you could say that I have used women just to get to their sons. And some knew that! I even had a woman tell her beautiful blond 13 yo son to go over and give me a kiss just because I was so nice......They were both very good in bed, though not at the same time.

I believe there should be absolutely NO AoC. I believe sexual contact even in infancy as ways to pacify or soothe a young child is normal. I'm basically for no one controlling or knowing about sex except for the people involved at the moment. I believe once a child can speak with intelligence (4years old) they can consent to certain acts. I believe certain acts of sex should not happen until anatomically possible (intercourse, anal sex...without damaging tissue). I do believe incest wouldn't be such a problem if other sex laws were obliterated.

Politics is our next phase of attack next to the judiciary; parliament and congress are definitely high profile in our liberation. The fucking anti-ped's have had enough freedom to make all the stupid laws they want under all the idiocy in their thinking. Now I think people are going to start changing their way of thinking of us; especially with all the publicity we're getting. Unfortunately, in the U.S a felon can't run for politics.....

As I said, rape is wrong, and carries an immediate harm with it, yet that harm is not necessarily long-lasting or severe apart from the societal reaction to it. Rape should definitely be punishable by law, and yet I believe we would do rape victims a great service by getting rid of the chief agent of harm - the anti-sexual attitudes that victimize them over and over again.

I remember hearing about a recent study which found that in many cases of non-consentual child/adult sex, the child was not substantially harmed in the long-term.

What possible reasons could there be for why raping is wrong? I will agree that it violates people's autonomy, but is that wrong by itself? Is it certain that rape directly causes harm, or could it be that the harm is only caused by society making the person feel victimized?

Infants are below my AOA, but I have to point out, in the spirit of this forum, that a baby can approve (giggles and laughter) and disapprove (crying and other signs of discomfort) of what is happening.

I for one, am beginning to believe that until we can establish some decent pedosexual foundation in society, we must hold onto an all or nothing argument with no exceptions to weaken our argument in the subject of child sexuality. Every human being, no matter the age, should be allowed to have consenting mutual sexual relations with anyone they wish. All age of consent laws must, and forever, be abolished.

Nature is angry and human beings and their urge to power by trying to control sex: the true source of life,and the sex life of a human being begins in the womb.How dare they be so arrogant as to create an age of consent?!

It's clear why they'll never accept the fact that we love their kids too. Parents don't want anyone else to love their children. If that person has different ideas about what's in the child's best interest, it invades what the parents feel is their exclusive territory. They don't want another cook with a hand in the mix, playing God with what's "theirs." And yet most parents cannot manage to love their children fully. Most parents will never be more than adequate, and a great many fall far short of even that.

I have been saying for years; Child Lovers are the most qualified people in the world to take care of children, for we are the ones who WANT to be with them,

Remember, the first step is not getting people to agree with us, but rather to get them to simply listen to what we have to say

Never compromise the fact that we are fully human, and deserve complete civil rights, respect for our orientation, and understanding for both our sexuality and our love of little girls.

my opinion is that we need to take that ball, tuck it firmly under an arm, even hide it, if necessary, and then charge straight through the opposition, with our minds firmly on the goal on the other side of the field.

I would say we have lost focus of what this whole movement is about. I've said this umpteen times and it frustrates me how the members here have SOOO much greatness and the potential to be the best friends to girls all over the world, but are scared shitless of going to jail. There are ways to work around the laws and if backed to a corner, stand up and be proud of who you are and who you love.

So I say to all of you. Make a REAL contribution. Go out and make a little girl your friend.

I know that I personally am afraid of going to jail, but not too afraid to want to befriend little girls anyway. I think the problem for a lot of us is, we're not sure where to look.

The problem is that it's hard to find ways to be casual friends with little girls these days. Most parents aren't very trusting........I just wish there was a way for me to, for lack of a better word, get access to more little girls!

Well, I'm not here to make them understand. I'm here to rub their noses in it. If the sight of me kissing a boy bothers them, then I'll slip him the tongue too!

I will extend an invitation to any of these antis who wish to come do me bodily harm. I'll give you my home address if you really feel the need to attack me, but I will not make it easy for you. If you step onto this property with a weapon, I'll just shoot you. I urge all of my fellow MAAs to follow my lead--get fit, learn to fight and learn to use a firearm. And then, come out and join me. We CAN make a difference. (Todd Nickerson)

And last but not least, good ol' Winston: Now all we need is a Martin Luther King! "We shall fight them on the beaches.." Or was that someone else?

Poor Dominic

For some reason TODD and his cronies think they can invent a fictitious character named Dominic and fool unsuspecting people. Dominic, being just your average John Doe, knowing nothing about pedophilia and hearing of the money returned to Todd Nickerson from Save the Children, well he was just appalled and decided to investigate. Lo and behold he discovers that Absolute Zero wasn't started because of the harassment from pedophiles.....oh no....it was started simply to harass and threaten with death innocent bystanders. The pedophiles who are just soooo good and pure and angelic. The ones who know best how to care for our children. And we dear friends are bigots and nazi's.

I knew Todd was stupid, I just didn't realize he was THAT stupid. Absolute Zero had nothing to do with the return of their advertising money they sent to Save the Children. (Although we would have, had it not already been taken care of when we heard of it) Furthermore, anyone can see right through poor Dominic. Save the Children has been alerted to your fake "non-pedophile" letters of support, Todd.

Save the Children fiasco

Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson sent a donation they'd collected from pedophiles to Save the Children, we all know about this of course. We've seen Lindsay's Press Release

In response to these donations, Todd Nickerson, from whose home the donations were sent in, has received letters from the charity, thanking us for the “compassionate gifts” made and were signed by Carolyn Miles, the organization’s Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.
We are glad that Save the Children, despite the prevailing antipathy against girllovers, has seen fit to accept our gifts and in so doing recognized our commitment to aiding the empoverished children of the world and enabled us to do so.

Most people donate money NOT to receive recognition. This was purely a marketing strategy for these people. The money they collected could just as well have been going for an advertising campaign. Their motive was to be able to say that Save the Children accepted THEM If they wish to help children so much, let them send their money anonymously. Money works just as well that way doesn't it? Would they withhold the money if Save the Children won't accept it from pedophiles who wish to use that fact to further their agenda? And they call US sick?

Now, what they want to do, if they get their donation back is to have a mass lobby campaign to congressmen.. Of course, some of those like the little girls in his heart pervert thinks otherwise, Instead of writing to Senators to complain, offer to donate to their campaigns... I think that they *will* take the money, hehe...

Here's my word............if you care about children and want to donate money, send it in as an anonymous donor.........not with the end motive being the use of such donation as a propoganda tool.

Turning Back the Perverts

It seems that uber perverts Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson are at it again. Nickerson, Ashford and their buddies have been trying to give themselves a 'good face' by donating money to charity! Yep, they managed to scrounge up over a thousand dollars that they sent in to Save the Children. What's worse, Save the Children accepte the money and sent them a thank you letter, that they are now trumpeting as a 'success' (http://hfp.puellula.com/Press/2006-06-21.html). I can hardly believe that Save the Children could have known that these folks were scumbags, but they are claiming that they said so.

BUT! Thanks to bloggers such as Rose DesRochers and LILO, Save the Children has now realized their error and are sending the money back! Good for them! Now these perverts will know that their cash is most certainly not welcome.

Unfortunately, this is not where it ends. Ashford, the ringleader of this pathetic bunch, has decided to start exploiting the daughters of our politicians by plastering their pictures all over his site. I cannot understand how this has been allowed to remain for so long (http://lindsay.puellula.com/2006-04-30.html). Aren't there laws against this kind of nonsense? And I wonder if these girls' daddies know about this shameful display. I bet they dont - and that they'll be hopping mad when they find out. You can all help us out with this. If the children of your Senator or Representative appears on this site, why not phone them up and tell them. I am sure they will be grateful to you for your concern.