Will he sing?

Harold Spurling aka Aztram who was charged with more than 60 sex-related crimes, including 15 counts of first-degree sexual assault has been offered a plea deal!

Jeffrey Brisson aka The Night Raven charged with more than 140 sex-related charges, including 38 counts of first-degree sexual assault was not!

Together the two were charged with assaulting at least 11 children, ages 3 months to 14 years old and possessing the equivalent of 42 80-gigabyte computers filled with child pornography.....including their own homemade videos of themselves having sex with children - over the course of years and years and years.

I wonder what the terms of Harold's deal were? They haven't been released yet. He has until January 28 to decide. Now personally I believe the only choice he should be allowed is between methods of execution. But I'm not the one offering a deal so HEY, at the very least I'll just bet he's asked to sing a song, don't you?

I just wonder how much information he's got. I just wonder how many people could go down over this. I just wonder how much information was stored in those computers of theirs.

Pedophiles don't exactly have childrens interests at heart. Otherwise I would imagine someone who just loved children would be grateful to Wikisposure. However, it's just business as usual. They'll post the news article on BoyChat, but won't allow them to say that Harold Spurling was one of their most respected pedo-members Aztram. Perhaps some of them are worried about the secrets he can tell. If so they'll surely not say it, instead we just hear the usual mumbo-jumbo distorted crap -- most of it sounds like it could have come right out of Sosen. Or a certain little podcast or two.

Zlurker, visiting from GirlChat. Who does this remind you of? The belief that the government has no right to tell parents they can't give permission for their children to have sex?

But, again, infants and toddlers are incapable of giving consent.

Though I am not very interested in infants, I dispute that. It is true for some "activities", but not for all "activities". I would also add that for some "activities", the parent's consent on behalf of the infant or toddler should be enough.

Toothless Bill Evans

the vast majority of cops are lying, bullying cunts who have no hesitation in "creating" their own evidence if they want to "get" someone.

The Dadbeater

They have no evidence against Spurling other than the statement of a 14 year old boy.

The raid was incited by extremist vigilantes who have a history of entrapment, deceit and potential fraud. The question is not whether the alleged acts are ethical. The question is whether they ever occurred.

Icarus

We all have our private lives, but I hope this guy "Spurling" had the sense not to show his face on those videos if it was indeed him... I'm sure he's a really good guy.

slvrspun

I remember reading previously about this very suspiciously organised case and recall that an anonymous informant was mentioned, which could very well turn out to be bogus and could fatally damage the prosecution case against them. That would be very interesting indeed.

mrb

The law is not on your side in the United States, and it takes millions of dollars to even try to make it apply fairly to you.

Whatever. Fuck the U.S.A.

As an aside, I just had the most boy-filled week I can ever remember having in all my life this past week. This, after the filth told me I'd never be near a child again for the rest of my life after I was busted. HAHA. Last laugh is on me. Some of them were naked too. hehehe :)

As 2008 winds down I'd like to offer a huge HT to Wikisposure for their role in helping to get these two men off the streets and away from children. Let's have a little reminder here of how this all started over on the old boyloveblog. Pedophiles intentionally antagonizing and drawing attention to themselves. What did he think was going to happen? I'm sure Dylan Thomas, Jim Finn, Aztram et al are very grateful too. So for old times sake and all.......Be careful what you wish for guys.

“I think this hysteria regarding childhood sexuality rests firmly
on a general fear and hatred of sex itself.
Otherwise, why would people think sex isn't for children?”

.........Harold Spurling

Remember Winston Smith!

Once upon a time there was this blogger.....

And so begins the story of Matthew Woodward aka Winston101Smith, Debatecrime, Lepidopterist, Nympholepticose and many other names.

You see Matt is a filthy pedophile. Not only that, he's a rather stupid, militant filthy pedophile I had the misfortune of 'meeting' when he decided to make a target of my daughter.

Daydreamer of Oz was a blogger, just a blogger minding her own business and writing her opinions about whatever struck her fancy at the time. She didn't know about people like Matthew Woodward...........a crazed filthy pedophile proud of his perversion. Until she became his target that is. Until he decided to inflict his ugliness upon her -- an unwanted intrusion into her life. Matt changed everything.

He had a plan you see -- He was going to change the world! He was going to do this by pushing himself upon people who didn't want him. When he didn't receive the result he wanted -- immediate acceptance for pedophilia, he would intentionally try to arouse emotional responses from his targeted victims. Those who had encountered pedo terrorists before simply bashed him around a bit and were done with him. Those who hadn't, tried to explain to him why his desires were unacceptable. Sometimes he was met with fury, sometimes shock, sometimes dismay -- but always in the end he was banned.

Not one to accept defeat so easily, Matt would call on his pals at GirlChat to bail him out "I'm under attack!" he'd whine. Winston's pedo-posse would always ride in to save the day -- a coordinated attack. They mistakenly believed they could "open one mind at a time" and it would therefore be worth it.

Winston

I visited a blog by the daydreamerofOz character - who is a female - and I posted something which was not a flame. The next I knew they were up in flames and due to my posting inoffensive messages on other blogs of people who hate us naturally, they all seem to have banded together to form the ridiculous and false site Absolute Zero

Baldur

These blogwars are a good place to get some experience in presenting our arguments, and will also convince a few people to change their beliefs

slvrspun

Even extreme irony, even when it is pointed out right in front of them, even in their non-frothing moments, even under threat of pain or death. Some people are just fucking stupid, and the best responses are to either avoid them and not waste one's own time, or to disable them or kill them.

Enigma

I'm starting to feel like we should stop wasting our time being nice, and just do whatever it takes to win. We need to ram it down their throats and force them to accept us, not plead with reasoned arguments. These people do whatever they're told and parrot whatever they're told to believe. They'd be just as happy to endorse pedophilia if that was the strongest message they were receiving. They have no brains or minds of their own. They want controlling, and it's about time we gave them some.

99% of (non-pedo) humanity is lowlier than slime, once they pass puberty. We are the superior race. There is no negitiating with backward apes. The only way to have the world we want is to shut them up once and for all

Rookiee

we're supposed to be promoting love, not hate. Maybe we should listen more to what the anti-pedos are saying about us rather than just knocking it all off as "well, they hate us, so fuck'em"

ILGO

Rookie, you ignorant slut! ;)

When she (like others have before her) made the decision to make their blogs a one way street accepting only sycophants and rejecting anything said by us or said in our favor whilst joining the campaign to force our opinions off the blogosphere she became an enemy

Stitches77-- I really don't have anything to comment about with regard for her. I think she's mistaken to be so supportive of her daughter without checking into the facts for herself, but that's MOM and she's going to listen to her daughter over everyone else no matter what happens. Can you really blame her?

Winston

She's the bitch that brought up such a whore!!!!!!

Are you reading this, sick bitch????

Demosthenes

Dreamer of Oz is a coward and a bully, too scared of what would happen if she didn't censor us and allowed us to be heard alongside her that she refers to anything that she receives as hate mail.

I must agree on one point, though. Debatecrime does not help our cause. I may be militant, but he is a loose cannon that usually manages to serve the purpose of forcing the rest of us to follow in his wake and clean up the mess. Slvrspun's only problem was taking the last step and adding "or kill them", and Minstrel's only problem was using the word "bitch" to refer to this hate monger

SplinterLife

Trolls usually come to you -- in this case, we came to HER. She obviously doesn't want to hear anything from us, and I think it is smart for all parties involved to oblige her.

LGsinmyheart

Anyway, I believe we should continue to send her comments, as many people as possible, as often as needed. Why???

There are three possible options:

1) She continues to censor us; for which everything she says about us will not be anymore than crying wolf and not showing the evidence. Yes, people can do that for a loooooong time and suceed; but eventually it gets boring for the audience. So the more she claims "hate letters, hate letters, hate letters", the more paranoid and void of arguments she will look, even to fellow antis, and they will desert her.

2) She gets tired and stops the censorship. ===> we win.

3) She gets tired and abandons the project, seeing that we will NOT stop from at least trying to express the truth. I disagree with Minstrel (and Heinlein) in this: often truth needs to be repeated, even over and over. If she only gets fan mail, she might not get tired - if she gets opposition, even if she censors it, her liver is going to suffer a little. And I like the prospect of antis' livers to suffer.

End result whatever happens: we win!!

Debatecrime

She is just a nasty bitch that likes to use the lie that she is being bullied as a weapon against anyone she hates. Much like the way all evil women have been taught to behave.

Demosthenes

Perhaps the most intriguing part of it all is that you posted this hate-group rhetoric on a public blog and really expected nothing but support. I see that you are a mother of 2. I do feel incredibly sorry for your children, and I wish them the best luck in overcoming a toxic home environment run by someone who such a vocal advocate of hate and prejudice.

Very cute that you moderate comments, by the way. Censorship is but a stepping stone along the path to fascist dictatorship. Sieg Heil, madame.

ILGO

We Paederotics have learned from the lessons of history all we really have to do is wait them out -- the fools! Did they really delude themselves into thinking it was only about sex? Projection much? While they and their third spouse are shopping the children back and forth in between busy schedules and big screen televisions we're the ones those children will turn to.

dannywyatt

If your tired of pedophiles imposing themselves on you- deal with it- cause if you can't find a way to suck-it-the-fuck-up then your time will come in which you'll suffer like the little twerp you are.

I'm not a hater, but a hater of haters.

Again if you want to equate me to the likes of a murderer, rapist, terrorist, you name it then expect the same when I come to find your ass.

Winston

let's just catch one and rape the bastard silly with a truncheon and then set fire to their balls, followed by castration and a penectomy torture for an extended period of time. it would make me smirk :>/)

LGsinmyheart

Socrates said that his purpose in life was to be like a mosquito in a hot summer noon: to bother society in the comfort of its self-deceiving lies and wake up its most alert elements. The sleeper gets incredibly annoyed, and chases and chases the mosquito around them. The mosquito, meanwhile, has the wildest fun of their life, with their sound, and biting and standing on the sleeper, and sucking the blood thereof.

Of course, the danger is, sometimes the sleeper kills the mosquito... as Athens did to Socrates...

But I will not stop being the mosquito.

I do have fun doing it, really.

Enigma

I know the antis are assholes and they have an infuriating way of ignoring logic and reason in favor of their own prejudices.

You have created virulent new enemies for us through your lack of politesse.

I am in favor of bringing the battle to the antis instead of letting them bring it to us. I think the best defense is a strong offense. I think we need to attack them in ways that will force them to reconsider their prejudices. But not this way. From my perspective it looks like you, LGsinmyheart, and a couple of others broke away from the pack and decided to do something rash and unplanned, and now it's going badly for you and you're looking for help.

Disengage. You've stirred up the hornet's nest to the point that you're only making it worse for yourself by continuing to jab at it.

Demosthenes

They had some great loss of an adult love as a child, or had it withheld from them completely, and now they are jealous of any child that does have it. The most disturbing part of it all is that while they are actively parading around and shouting about the evils of us, the truth is that they harbor secret hatred of children for having the love that they feel that they deserve, and us for giving it to children whom they wholely undeserving.

As far as playing games with them goes, however.. well, some of us are just watching them scurry around and letting them have enough rope to hang themselves with. When that particular subset of our numbers are ready, the real fun and games will begin.

Baldur

These assholes are lying. Others have discussed this before - even Winston's initial post was polite and informative. These Antis are liars, like all Antis before them - we cannot trust a word they say

Minstrel

As for calling people like that "bitch" and "asshole" and "brainless shit-head" and so on, in messages posted here:

"Words were made for use, and the fault lies in deserving them." - Thomas Paine

Enigma

You might not want to hear it, but you guys are LOSING on Blogspot because the antis have the market cornered on public relations. What can you do to present your side of the story any better? You heard them. They're not interested in debate. Neither is the average Joe who's browsing through

Why not register a non-profit organization called something like American Council for Sexual Values? It's a nice friendly name that sounds like it'd have a message a lot of antis want to hear. Of course, there's no explicit mention of just what kind of "sexual values" this organization would be advocating. Use it as a mouthpiece for studies done by folks like John Money, Judith Levine, Rind et al., and so forth. It's cheap to set up a non-profit organization, and as such, it could receive donations. Those donations could be used to fund political action committees, buy advertising on network television and newspapers, you name it. Nothing blatantly pro-pedophilia, of course. Just press releases such as "Studies show effect of sex during childhood can be positive." and "Correlation found between late age of first sexual experience and trouble with relationships in adult life." Get it into the public's consciousness that way, and that'll open the door a crack.

It's all about appearances. Instead of waiting for them to approve of our naked, honest appearance as we are (hell will freeze sooner), we must make them see us the way we want them to.

Is it dishonest? Yes. Is it manipulative? Yes. Is it mind control? Yes. Is it all the things we accuse them of doing against us? Yes. But we can't say we believe in our cause and then say we have to leave certain options off the table. If we really believe in what we're doing, if we really believe it's for the good of the children, then just as they will use any means at their disposal, so must we. If we want to win, we'll have to do what works, not what's fair or nice.

Love2uall

Daydreamer, you seem to be interested in politics and the injustices that are happening in this world.
I am also.
Please don't close your mind because something is relatively new to you and/or sounds anything other than what you are used to see or think.
Read Girl Chat for a while and you might see some quite interesting conversations there, and you'll also see we, for most of us, if not all of us there, are not necessarilly for sexual exploitation of children.

These are all people who want to claim the title "childlover" or girllover". Would you trust your child around that? Rookiee tried to reign them in, "this is not the way to gain acceptance" but it didn't stop them. They invited us to check them out. We did. We were horrified by what we found.

Enigma

Children can consent to being touched. This is obvious, except maybe to a daydreamer from Oz. If you ask a child "Do you want me to spank you?" she'll say no. Why? Because spanking doesn't feel good. Duh. Of course, most parents who spank their kids don't bother to get their consent in the matter, and even if the child says no, she'll most likely get spanked anyway. Now take a child who hasn't been taught by adults that pleasure is bad and dangerous. If you ask her "Do you want me to fondle you?" she'll say yes (assuming she likes you, of course!). Why? Because it feels good. Duh. If she hasn't been brainwashed with arbitrary ideas of "right" and "wrong," then of course she's going to assume that what feels good is right, and what feels bad is wrong. Makes sense, right? If only grownups could leave well enough alone.

If we're not loving children for self-serving reasons—and I don't believe most of us are—then we're loving them because we feel it's "for their own good." And there we have it: we're in the same boat as their parents. The only difference is that we have different ideas about what's in a child's best interest.

I told Rookiee back in the day

"Cough up Winston and I'll go away. Harbor him and pay the consequences"

Winston, just like Rookiee pushed the wrong buttons on the wrong person. He wanted attention. He should've listened to Rookiee when he said "Be careful what you wish for guys"

Of course, as always, there's a lesson to be learned here. Some might say it would be to not accost strangers on the internet. Some might say pedophile terrorism reached it's peak and we must remain watchful for the latest tactics. Some might say there's no going back after you open a can of worms. Either way - I win, they lose. They need to stay inside their pedo den and keep their filthy pedo mouths shut. And as always, Remember Winston Smith!

Visit Wikisposure to read more about this filthy pedophile Matthew Woodward

Graphics by Jacey

When a pervert loves a child.........

"An 8-year-old Cape Coral girl was forced to get off a school bus and urinate on a front lawn while other Cape Elementary pupils watched." Story HERE

Outrageous? You bet. And I seriously doubt if there's one person here who isn't fuming over this story. Heck, even some of the perverts got upset. Some of them. What about the others? Let's look at those a minute. You know....the ones who say that they just love children, they would never harm children, they would always put the needs of a child before themselves, they understand children much more than their own parents!! Yeah, those perverts like:

Abraxas an original NAMBLA member, convicted child molester and general loud mouthed obnoxious POS. We had a long discussion with his good friend Damien Cole back in September about him, and his past. Yeah, good old Rookieeee....who ignores his own pedo-pals when they say in reference to Joseph Duncan..... "Knowledge of a persons past will give you a strong idea of what they will do tomorrow" and while telling all his brothers to behave and not screw things up, and while all the little pedoheads are descending upon blog land making wild claims of NOT being child molesters........oh hell no, they're child lovers. Yes during all of this Rookieeee spoke of convicted pedofreaks who wanted to be pedo activists and made this statement:

"There ain't no way we can (or should) wash our hands of "these people". These people are ourselves"

Well, we agreed. We realize that all you childlovers are indeed convicted child sex offenders. No argument there.

But back to the story.....Abraxas, as a self proclaimed bisexual childlover would surely have something to say about this child........

No big deal......Kids have been peeing in public since time began......Seeing children run around naked is common in many parts of the world......American society is phobic and we have, sadly, made our children afraid of even necessary functions......we do not live in a perfect world

Ah, such understanding. It boggles the mind.

The Phantom:

What do you expect with mimsy-pimsy Americans?

BluegrassBoy:

'scarred for life'?!? LOL

Hierophant:

She will live

The Phantom:

public peeing is practically obligatory in (mainland) China.............All the trauma is a result of societal programming and adults' reaction to the incident, like another activity frequently discussed hereabouts...

What it seems to me that they're lacking besides just general respect and common decency for another human being is empathy. It's interesting that empathy training is a part of sex offender therapy. This is a perfect example of why.

Hey Abraxas, you fat ugly old thang you, how would you like to be forced to urinate on the sidewalk in front of 70 people? Think it wouldn't bother you to hear everyone laughing at you? Especially when you're say....8 years old and especially sensitive to peer pressure? Oh but you do understand 8 year olds, don't you? I almost forgot that part. Children urinating in their own yard, by their own choice does not........by any stretch of the imagination, compare to this. You are a disgrace.

And by the way this is 2007, ok? We have running water and an advanced waste disposal system. We don't live like barbarians or wild animals. We happen to be civilized. But if you'd like to go live in a jungle or a destitute, filthy, uneducated, technologically backwards location........there's a lot of people who would like to help you get there. And good riddance

The Trophy goes to Rookieeee!!

There are some of the opinion that you don't kick a dog when it's down.

There are others who believe that you don't let up when you have your opponent at a disadvantage, instead you make sure that he doesn't get back up.

You prance and gloat and use them as an example to anyone else who has the guts to try to pick up where their fallen hero left off. I belong to the second category.

Rookiee took a hard fall, he did. What is he doing now? Hiding of course. He explains on the pedovore message boards that he's scared. But it's not only anti's he's scared of, no. He's scared of what will come later.

He's scared of ending up like Kevin Brown and Lindsay Ashford, demonized by their own. LOL. Or even Jeffrey and Divinaw from Sure Quality Radio, (a pedophile rado show) now gone under after the recent arrest of those two guys for molesting boys. Or hey, how about Tom O'Carroll! He's even afraid of ending up like him "the moment he had some supposed child porn, he gets picked up by the police and is never heard from again?"

Well, Rookieeee, no one ever knows what the future holds. Are you in possession of child porn? Are you molesting boys? Do you have an IN YOUR FACE attitude? There you have it, Rookiee, you see, it's our kids! It's our children, Rookiee!! Can't you see that you will never be able to change anything, except of course for the worse.

Rookiee, says he's afraid of people chasing him down, of following him endlessly. I don't know about that, at the moment my own goal has been achieved. Rookiee is SILENT and that's what I was after. So, yeah I'll be watching, if only to make sure he stays that way.

Yet, even in Rookiee's darkest moment, his worst fear realized, he remains defiant. Although he knows that we know who he is, he still says "Kiss my ASS"

No thanks, Rookieeeee, I'm just gonna finish transcribing your pedologues. You see, somehow I just don't trust a pervert to tell the truth.

Oh and by the way, you won our contest for most repulsive visitor to AZ. You wear your distinction well I might add. I do approve.

1st Place Rookiee: 29%

2nd Place Lindsay Ashford: 24%

MySilentWar ~ Declares War

Some of you may remember My Silent War. We wrote a little about him HERE
He has a history of being conflicted you might say. But not so much that he won't come out in full support of his pedopal Rookieeee.

You see, he has a plan. He's going to follow in the footsteps of the black civil rights movement. He's staging a SIT-IN. That's right. Well, I'll let him tell you what that entails.

So, I'm going to issue a challenge to any website that might try to discriminate against us for who we are. We need go to sites like YouTube, that actively destroy our accounts and communities because a vigilante organization tells them to, and we need to start sitting in. We need to create accounts on sites who comply with moral bigotry, and explain that we are childlovers - as is our right - and we need to follow the Terms of service and the Law as is required of us. And if our accounts get deleted, our posts erased, our very presence denied: We need to make new accounts. And we need to keep doing this until it is realized that the effort to deny us our voice is more disruptive than anything that we will ever say.

And I need everyone else - anyone else - who supports the childlovers' RIGHT to free expression and speech, within the bounds of both law and Terms of Service, to sit with me.

He thinks they should let it be known that they "wont put up with being bullied."
In fact he wants to "stick it to the antis".

So what does he have up his sleeve? He feels certain organizations have discriminated against him and his brothers. He names off YouTube, Xanga, CafePress and Wikipedia. What does he want to do? Let's look at YouTube first....

Status: I've made an account that says I'm a GirlLover among other things, Links to my blog, and has the Brass Eye pedophilia episode and Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech as faves

Xanga:

Status: I've signed up for an account at Xanga, and will cross-post this current post to the Blog once I've finished writing.

Wikipedia:

Status: I changed my user page so that it complies with the ridiculous "public domain images only" rule. I'm also trying to be more active on Wikipedia in the wake of Rookiee's ban and subsequent shift towards POV in pedophilia-related articles.

CafePress:

Status: I am currently trying to organize the set up of a CL store on another service, Zazzle. Also, it's been pointed out to me that there's a GL merchandise store on CafePress, and has been there for a while. I wont risk the loss of this store by posting the URL on my public blog, though I will inform anyone who inquires through E-mail about the location of the store, if I can trust them.

OH, well have no fear, I'll help you out there.

Here's one of them


And this is an image he wants to use for merchandise to raise money for pedopurposes.

Action Alert

Perverted Justice is in the process of campaigning against companies that endorse Rookiee and his pedophile propoganda. Currently, PJ is specifically interested in Google/Blogger, and LibSyn who hosts his Pedologues Podcasts. CafePress was also contacted by PJ and has since shut down Rookiee's page along with YouTube and Xanga.

All members interested in helping with this campaign to actively address corporate association/endorsement of pedophilia, please go here to get the full details.

Please also take a moment to contact the relevant organizations to voice your opinions.

Administrative contact, LibSyn.org
Dave Chekan
bigpie@webmayhem.com
513 S Mathilda St
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15224
USA
412-682-4456


Google/Blogger
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View
CA
94043
US
dns-admin@google.com
+1.6502530000


Members are also encouraged to join the PJ forums to gain further details on how they can help this cause.

Rookieeeee Paddling Upstream

Faster Rookieeee Faster!!! All these groups I talked about being after you are closing in, paddle faster Rookieeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Oh well, Rookieeee finally discovered that Perverted Justice was after him. If it were me, I'd prefer to have AZ after me, but hey! to each their own right? Some people never listen, now he's got PJ on the warpath, reckon he'll have to pay the piper this time. You see, PJ has complained about the editing attempts at Wikipedia by the gang of thugs hereby known as pedofreaks. They think that by editing an online encyclopedia with lies, deceptions and distortions of the truth, that somehow they'll convince the mainstream how wonderful they are. ROFL

PJ has also complained about Cafepress, and guess what? Rookieeee's perverted sick-o-pathic T-Shirts, with which he was going to SHOW us how idiotic we were, well, they're gone. Cafepress shut him down. BooFreakingHoo

According to PJ they may not have caught on to Rookieeeee were it not for his rants about them. Rants = lies and distortions. You know, the typical pedopathetic behaviors they all exhibit.

Even Ella, went onto messenger and tried to argue with PJ. She then posts the conversation on Girl Chat. Quite funny actually when PJ is also posting the same conversation. You see, this is what I've learned.....Pedofreaks in their mutual delusional delirium are also unable to recognize sarcasm even when it slaps them in the face.

I would imagine the pedofreaks might be a little upset about this wouldn't you? Let's check it out and see what they're saying.....

Dissident thinks:

At least this makes it clear that PJ is primarily going after MAA's because we offend their personal sensibilities, not because they think they are "protecting" anyone. This convo was very telling, and I think the public should be aware of the reality behind this org

Rookieeee Revolyob (boylover):

Perverted Justice has created a very attacking and biased article on both myself and my podcast, accusing me of all sorts of false things, and has incited the public to begin disrupting my activist projects.

Turtle:

I keep telling people we are wasting our time unless we all work together, otherwise, they will just take down our retreats on the net one by one.

Ella:

PJ does not have infinite power. Some people respond to their bullying, but they don't control everything.

Tallguy:

He is made of the same material as real child-abusers are. It's not for no reason that he is so - shall we say - fascinated with child-abusers and child-abuse.

Nihil_aeturnius:

Decades of hysteria, dethroned with seven words!

Cangee:

Most antis just use protecting minors as a justification for their hatred of us. They really couldn't care less about children. this is why a group of anti-bloggers stopped a large donation to a children's charity.

Witness: delusion

Baldur:

So we have the American government conducting psychological torture of children, in their terrorist campaign against pedophiles.
Hmmmn. Sounds like time for a regime change. When do we send in the Marines?

Hey! I think that's a great idea. The MARINES! Who would've thought of that? Let's ask our team member Gunny, ya think? See what he has to say about this?

"I have been abstaining"

Thank you for the advice, Rookieeee. I just listened to Pedologues episode 26, in which you have a dialogue with the criminal Abraxas. Of course he didn't really talk much about his association with NAMBLA, but then everyone already knew that part.

Let's see now, Rookieeee, you are trying to be an activist for your cause, and in doing so you spend an hour of friendly banter with this guy, discussing boylove issues, and the only thing you have to say about his criminal past is that you "don't give a f***"

That strikes me as rather odd. That attitude, Rookieeee, that attitude that is so pervasive in the pedovore community. On the one hand you say that you love children, yet you don't care what this guy did to children, and then you blame the rest of society for it. Yep, I really see you carrying your message far, Rookieeee. *cough*

Maybe the most important thing you said though in that entire episode was this.....

There is nothing illegal on my computer. I have done nothing wrong. I have been abstaining, because I know that I am a target.

OH!! I see! Thank you so much for clarifying that.

Pedofreaks Speak - for Rookieeee

Now Rookieeeee, I have tons of examples I could point out to you, but I thought I'd give you a fresh illustration of the thought distortion that goes on in your community. They/you? are too entrenched in this way of thinking. It's all around you if you'll only open your eyes and see it.

It starts with a news story that captures the eyes of the activist pedovores:

Youth gang rape reported in Milwaukee

MILWAUKEE - It began with a crush, police said, and turned into one of the most shocking crimes in Milwaukee's long, violent summer: an 11-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys while a 16-year-old girl she was romantically interested in watched and coached her.

The 16-year-old and a 15-year-old boy have been charged in juvenile court in the alleged attack, which authorities said took place Monday in a house on the city's north side. The teenage girl's 40-year-old uncle might also be charged, authorities said.

The 11-year-old girl told police she was interested in the teenage girl, who looked and dressed like a boy, authorities said in court records. She and two friends went to the teen's house, where the child performed oral sex on three teenage boys, the court records said.

The teenage girl's 40-year-old uncle admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old and told police that his niece was coaching the child, the records said.

The 11-year-old told police she then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," the records said.

The teenage girl told police that the 11-year-old had told her she wanted to perform oral sex on the boys in the house, according to court records. The 16-year-old denied encouraging her.

The teenage girl and the 15-year-old boy were charged with being a party to sexual assault. Torbenson said he will probably seek to have them tried as adults

Now I just wonder what the reaction could possibly be to this story. A story of a young girl, most likely very troubled to begin with, taken advantage of by these guys? What do you think, Rookieeeee, what do you think their reactions would be? Well I'm here to tell you.

d said

Legally, it's gang-rape. In actually, the 11 year old may have not only consented but actively chosen who to have sex with and what to do.

Baldur said

the reporters are trying to incite more mob violence against boys and men who might appreciate such 11 year old girls

the-wolf said

why is this story surprising? An 11 year old can get to be just as jealous of her older lover as anyone else. Is it because supposedly in the girls own words she chose to engage in sex acts and with whom she would have them with? But remember an 11 year old is supposed to be asexual and not have any knowledge of this sort. Like the guy said she was only a baby! Well atleast now some people are waking up to the reality of the situation

kea said

one needs merely to be 'coached' into being the victim of an assault, rather than, say, threatened or forced

hierophant asks

She just wanted to help? What was she to get in return for all those blow jobs?

turtle replies

maybe she was just having fun? or maybe she was seeking the 16yr old girls approval? we are obviously not getting the whole story. they left out the parts that might undo their "victim" story

turtle can't stop he has more to say

if she really did suck 15 boys,that should send them a loud message,but i doubt they will figure it out. the 40yr old will prolly end up being the scapegoat just because they dont want to believe that minors would do this on their own.

Demosthenes says

A full tummy?

BB replies

More protein than a steak dinner!

Moon Dreamer says

didn't you know that 11-year-olds aren't old enough to make decisions? They're too dumb! I really think most adults need to take a long hard look at themselves and realize usually they're the ones incapable of decision

Hierophant says

There appears to be a coordinated effert to mold the public.

AH! So now we get to the heart of the matter! Nevermind that anyone would question a girl that age walking into a room full of, oh say, 20 strangers and giving blow job after blow job...... and NOT question her emotional stability.

Ok, nevermind that Let's focus instead on hierophant's accusation of a coordinated effort to mold the public .... do you really want to talk about that? Because we could if you wanted to.

We could talk about the mission statement that's currently being developed by the pedovore community.

We could talk about the attempts to deceive the public from within that mission statement.....as in.....'NO don't ask for abolishment of age of consent laws first, that will have to come later after we've convinced them to accept us'

Is that what he's talking about, I wonder?

Or maybe he's talking about their little propoganda project of the day, hmmm, maybe that's it. You know the one where they print out little business size cards and leave them around in public places. The ones they call Visual Propoganda Oh the ones they say something like THIS:

FEAR NOT THE ONES WHO LOVE

Most people who are attracted to children are interested in
knowing, understanding, respecting, and valuing children,
rather than simply trying to have sex with a child. This is
sometimes referred to as “love”.

FEAR NOT THE ONES WHO LOVE

and the flip side

WHO ARE THE TRUE ABUSERS?

Most sexual crimes against children are
committed by those who are NOT
exclusively attracted to children.

WHO ARE THE TRUE ABUSERS?

Now I don't know about you guys, but I happen to know those little fact cards are flat out lies. And no, you little pedofreaks I am not speaking from emotion but from intelligence and reasoning. What are you speaking from? What are they speaking from, Rookieeeee?

With Eyes Wide Open

Rookieeeee, who just detests stereotyping, so much so, that he was trying to sell T Shirts that said

And She's Daddy's Little Girl

And Rookieeee (who didn't try to sell his T Shirts on boychat, but WAS attacked, threatened and harassed there by that deranged infant luster jd420), has somehow concluded that when CafePress (which AZ didn't link to or even refer to) removed his designs, well of course! Absolute Zero did it. Who else? In fact, he even starts a new design that reads like this

Absolute Zero
=
Blind Hatred

Now you see Rookieeeee ... Let's be clear ...We wanted those T Shirts there! Y'see? They proved how stupid and radical you are.

Furthermore when you go to the chat boards now and ask this question

If it was anyone from this or any other board, I'd like to know who. Or are you going to be cowardly?

We can tell you truthfully,

We aren't cowards here. We like people to know when we accomplish something

So you need to trot right back over to your pedo drawing board if you wish to determine who did it. Perhaps you might like to ask yourself some of these questions

• Who wanted your T Shirt removed the most?
• Who continued to harass you even after you changed the design?
• Who carried on the loudest?
• Who was the most childish, posting on an unrelated board rather than doing the manly thing and emailing you privately
  

So, no Rookieeeee, a resounding NO. Absolute Zero does not equal Blind hatred. You see, my dear boy,

our eyes are wide open

Warning: Choking Hazard

Oh poor Rookieeee. The more he tries the dumber he looks. Darn, he just doesn't know which way to turn. See? He got this cockamamy idea that he could sell T-Shirts with something to ruffle the feathers of the anti-pedos who think we're monsters anyways. Sort of a 'f*** you to them' So he designs some shirts and offers them up for sale. They say "And she's Daddy's Little Girl" With the girl lover logo no less

The thing is he forgot about jd420. Of course you would remember him, the repulsive, militant pedofreak that even the pedofreaks wish would go away. So jd proceeds to threaten Rookieeeee over on the boychat message board and tells him

Please remove any and all content which currently has the word "daddy" in its design from the pl webstore, preferably within 24 hours. Failure to comply may result in suspension and, in some jurisdictions, prosecution for hate speech

Dylan Thomas doesn't particularly care for JD the girl lover coming to boychat and making demands, especially when it could have been cleared up with a private email. Dylan says the girl community must be more organized than he previously thought and called it

Committee Ultimatum on Negative Thought, which will be enforced by the Collective Legal Investigation Team. I'm startled to realize that there's apparently a body over there, with jd420 as its spokesman, that's operating something like a Team Watching Appropriate Tactics and Theatrical Inquisition Tactical Squad

Poor olive freak wants one of the aprons that say Grill Chat on them, BUT only if he can figure out a safe way of receiving it without public disclosure of his location. Reckon, he's unaware that the secret's been out of the bag for awhile now? Right down to the last digit. And poor BlueRibbon just can't give it up He's still quoting figures that say pedofreaks don't commit child sex abuse. Poor boy. Now really I find the whole affair rather boring and petty. So imagine my surprise when Dylan Thomas made a request for some boxer shorts to be made with this logo!Does he really think there's something humorous there?

And why would Rookieeee be so anxious to SHOCK the anti's?

Doesn't he realize that you're already shocking enough? TRYING to shock us, I guarantee you will not help your cause.

Hey! I have an idea. It's really avant-garde but you know, perhaps it might help. From now on, why don't you try TELLING THE TRUTH? Now that would probably shock us.

Lookie @ Rookieeeeeee

At first glance,this appeared to be just another insignificant cognitive distortion of a pedovore

But on closer inspection, it's something much much worse. It takes on a whole new meaning. It's not just stupid statements made by a freakopathic creepazoid, no it's a symptom. We just need to name the disease. Listen with me to Rookieeeeee:

Parents rarely make their children critical thinkers. Teachers on the whole also are guilty of this. Boylovers and girllovers are also guilty of this, especially if they want to get into bed with them.

Oh, but wait....Are you saying the freakopathic creepazoids may have a hidden agenda? I thought that the pedovores stated desires were friendship with children and sex was just a side dish? So, in this instance we were correct in our initial assessment that the pedovore community was attempting to deceive the public. Is that correct? Oh, surely not. Surely Rookieeeeee himself couldn't give them away so easily. Well let's see what other gems we can get from him:

You mention "sexual maturity" in your comment. What age do you think the point of sexual maturity is? I assert that it is the onset of puberty. Puberty is when the body is saying, "I'm ready for sex." Why then is the age of consent (in just about all Western Civ countries) higher than this? Why is the AOC lower in "developing" countries? I personally think that any country where the age of consent is higher is due to society's inability to deal with sexuality, for whatever reason, whether it be because of economics, politics, culture-of-fear, dog-eat-dog ethics, lack of education, etc.

Head snap

Why is the AOC lower in third world countries? OMG it can only be because we, yeah you and me, here in the civilized world, are unable to deal with S.E.X. because we're not as educated as the enlightened and advanced specimens from undeveloped countries.
We're just so unethical and we suffer such extreme levels of economic poverty as compared to the rest of the world. Oh yeah, we live in a society where women and children are valued, not as men's objects but as individuals, a society where women and young girls aren't imprisoned or executed if they cry rape, where women don't have their genitals mutilated by some arbitrary belief of a person who isn't getting his genitals mutilated! We live in a country where our youth are encouraged to finish their college educations and find their way in life before marriage and children, where one man has one vote (and which empowers us) where there's opportunities everywhere if one will only open their eyes to see, where we have the freedom to say the unpopular without getting our heads chopped off. But lo and behold here we have Rookieeeeeee, an American dissing his advanced country because we don't have backwards laws. Here's you a clue where to start looking Rookieeeeee, the age of marriage for young girls is positively correlated with life expectancy. I'll give you an opportunity to see if you can work out why.

What's Wrong With This Picture?

We spoke here about Rook's Public Service Announcement. Essentially Rook is telling his paedophile buddies how much damage they are doing to the 'movement' by using child porn and molesting children. Apparently his podcast on this topic isn't getting enough traffic so his pal Vertical Horizontal begs the paedophile community to check it out. He says:

I know and you know the laws are unfair and it is all too easy for us to simply refuse to follow them as conscientious objectors.

The only problem is that every picture you download, every faux boy or girl you chat up in a chat room, every relationship you get into that crosses the line you set up not only yourselves for problems later, but you are making yourself a dagger aimed right at the heart of this community you say you love so much.

This goes out especially to those of us who have chosen to become activist. Check your computers for anything that can and will be used against you once a big enough stir has been created. Go over your personal life for anything that can become a battering ram with which to destroy you later.

What is wrong with this picture?

Public Service Announcement

or PSA, courtesy of Rookieeeeee at the boyloveblog. WOW I'm impressed, Rookie has seen the light. He has THIS to say:

We're fools to keep collecting child porn. We're fools to continue having sexual relations with children.

Very good Rookieeeeee. That's what we've been saying all along.

With A Little Help From His Friends

More psychotic ramblings from the paedophile community. Today's excerpts come from Rook's buddy ohellyeah. Today ohellyeah is raging against a commentor. He ever-so-rationally has this to say:

And since you have such a problem with the way I was born, what would you have me do about it? What? Do you think I'm gonna go live in the back of some cave somewhere simply because morons like your self can't understand my attraction? Or the attraction that boys have for me?

He continues with these insights

I am a pedophile whether you like it or not, whether I like it or not, and if you lock me in the deepest dungeon on the face of the earth and never let me see the light of day again I will still be a pedophile. If you stick me in a mental hospital and medicate me untill I can no longer speak and sit me in front of some shrink who's being paid to tell me for hours and hours on end that I'm evil simply for the way I was f--king born, I will still be a pedophile. IF YOU KILL ME I WILL STILL BE A PEDOPHILE! I am a pedophile. This is how God made me. It's not somthing I chose, its not something I can help, but you know what? I AM DAMN F--KING PROUD TO BE ONE! Theres not a DAMN thing you can do about it, and I'll be DAMNED to the DEEPEST PITS OF HELL before I let some shallow minded, over opinonated BIGOT like YOU, who probably doesn't know the first thing about me, about people like me, about the boys who understand and love people like me, about what the word "pedophile" really means, or anything beyond what society has spoon fed your sorry ass since they day you were born, make me feel ashamed of who and what I am.

Now I don't want anyone getting the wrong idea here. While your initial thought may be that this appears to be a prelude to some bizarre mental breakdown, I must say that his community members immediately recognized his mental weakness and rushed in to save the day:

nlsngrc said:

You need to spellcheck before you post these things.

And Rook responded to nlsngrc this way

I just introduced him to the lil "ABC" button at the top. ;)

By all means carry on with your anti-social personality disorder - carry on with your violent, psychotic rants about society. But I'm afraid the brainiac Rook simply must insist that you use a spell-check in the process.

Rooooookieeeeeeee

Rookiee the brainiac thinks Daydreamer is a guy. He gets very disturbed when people mispell his name and he apparantly didn't like that post about him. He had this to say:

What about all the minors who ask to meet up with adults? Are they predators? Of course not, so how can it automatically be true vice-versa? "They don't know any better". If that's true, how can Perverted Justice employ them to entrap adults? If someone stalks, harasses and attempts to strike fear in someone, manipulating and forcing them to comply with their will, then I can agree that they are a predator. But, guess what guys? I'm seeing the same type of predatorial tactics being used on us by none other than yourselves!

Hey Rookieeeeee, why don't you go to perverted justice and read the actual transcripts of how these things go down? And then try again to convince everyone that it's the children begging old fuddy duddy sexual deviants to meet up with them. Then you can go back and change your name to Rookiee the idiotic brainiac.

You guys are vigilantes and are bordering breaking the law to further your hatred and bigotry, and I will not tolerate your actions.

Period.

Don't f*** with me.

Hey you brain infarcted pervert.
We aren't vigilantes.
We aren't breaking the law.
Neither are we bigots or hate mongers.

"You won't tolerate our actions?"

Just checking to make sure I heard you correctly.

Rookiee The 'Brainiac'

Apparently the paedophiles are feeling rather threatened. They’re sending in the next line of defense. Rookiee has resurfaced here and attacked one of our guests for a ‘spelling error’....making this the perfect opportunity to consider Rookiee's agenda.

Rookiee is a wanna-be ringleader in the movement to make paedophilia a civil rights issue.

Two months ago he became enraged when he was banned from editing Wikipedia because he attacked and vilified Justin Berry – a victim of child pornography who brought numerous paedophiles to justice. Important to note here that the paedophile community does not view Justin as a victim but, to use their word, a whore.

Our latest encounter with Rookiee brought out his anger at the stings which have been set up to catch online predators. You can read his comments here. He, in classic paedophile form, blames the victims.

It really should come as no surprise then that he comes up with what he dubs a ‘brainiac scheme’.

Here’s how the scheme will work:

- Members of the paedophile community go into adult chat rooms and pose as ‘minors.’
- When adults ask to meet up, they will say no ‘politely but firmly’
- They will see how many adults continue these advances and how many will not
- These ‘results’ will be published on the net

Rookiee explains the purpose of this scheme

If my suspicions are correct, the majority of these adults are not predators and will not insist on meeting up with someone who does not want to. We need to then publish our findings on the web.

What say you?

Daydreamer says:

Brainiac scheme? This has to be the most idiotic plan I've ever seen.

I guess we shouldn’t expect much better from a person who so viciously attacks exploited and abused children though.

So I’m gonna go real slow here and try not to use big words:

If the adult asks to meet up with the child, he is a predator.

Got that? It doesn't matter how the child responds or whether the adult backs off or not.

Your scheme would neither prove a point nor provide any type of information - it only speaks to the level of desperation your community is reaching. You're making a laughing stock of yourself and your community. Ok, brainiac?

PedoFreak Logic

We all know they're irrational, selfish, delusional and more. Some of them are even psychotic mathemeticians. snicker
We're speaking of the pedophile community of course.

So I'm going to give you an example of pedophile logic. Rookie apparently has an anonymous commenter (no, it isn't me) who made the statement that pedophiles 'don't have the right to exist'. This is Rookie's response.......can anyone tell me what's wrong with this statement?

The Hezbollah organization that triggered the current confrontation in Israel's northern border is being called a terrorist organization because it's reported that they do not consider Israelis to have the right to exist. Mr Anonymous is saying that we "don't have a right to exist". That would make "anonymous" a terrorist, no?