Prevention 101

It's quite simple really.

Don't do the crime and then you'll have nothing to complain about.

"Online molesters do not appear to be stalking unsuspecting victims but rather continuing to seek youths who are susceptible to seduction"

From: "Online Predators and their Victims"

How many people remember the days of Rookiee? He explained best how it all works. How he and his pedo pals didn't lie about what they were, how old they were, or what they were after. The other pedofreaks explain which victims they target. The importance of this study is that it confirmed what we already knew and that many people who don't understand what the dregs of society are up to don't..... The stereotypical image of an internet predator doesn't fit with reality. Take a look here if you have any doubts about that. In fact.....this is what the study said:

“Most Internet-initiated sex crimes involve adult men who are open about their interest in sex,” Wolak adds. “The offenders use instant messages, e-mail and chat rooms to meet and develop intimate relationships with their victims. In most of the cases, the victims are aware that they are talking online with adults.”

and

"most online sex offenders are adults who target teens and seduce victims into sexual relationships. They take time to develop the trust and confidence of victims, so that the youth see these relationships as romances or sexual adventures. The youth most vulnerable to online sex offenders have histories of sexual or physical abuse, family problems, and tendencies to take risks both on- and offline, the researchers say."

We talked about how they choose their victims here

The paedophiles themselves tell us that they specifically target and prey upon disadvantaged families.

Bill Evans explains:

How many times have you seen posters here talk about having y/fs from happy, loving homes? Those boys don't need to turn to someone outside the family for support. I have had a couple of y/fs from those sort of homes, but we never had the kind of close friendship I usually develop with kids from dysfunctional familes.

The kids from good homes are just along for the fun, but kids from dysfunctional homes, or no home, want a whole lot more...

Or as Descartes put it:

BLs who have no criminal record can work with boys, but probably not the boys that they would dream of working with. The BLs who have boy-filled lives aren't taking a bunch of adorable boys on fun camping trips in the woods.

They are working with boys who are extremely poor, who have serious physical and/or emotional problems and who are far from being the object of most BLs' fantasies.

Exploiting a Minor is a Major Offense Project Safe Childhood

Will he sing?

Harold Spurling aka Aztram who was charged with more than 60 sex-related crimes, including 15 counts of first-degree sexual assault has been offered a plea deal!

Jeffrey Brisson aka The Night Raven charged with more than 140 sex-related charges, including 38 counts of first-degree sexual assault was not!

Together the two were charged with assaulting at least 11 children, ages 3 months to 14 years old and possessing the equivalent of 42 80-gigabyte computers filled with child pornography.....including their own homemade videos of themselves having sex with children - over the course of years and years and years.

I wonder what the terms of Harold's deal were? They haven't been released yet. He has until January 28 to decide. Now personally I believe the only choice he should be allowed is between methods of execution. But I'm not the one offering a deal so HEY, at the very least I'll just bet he's asked to sing a song, don't you?

I just wonder how much information he's got. I just wonder how many people could go down over this. I just wonder how much information was stored in those computers of theirs.

Pedophiles don't exactly have childrens interests at heart. Otherwise I would imagine someone who just loved children would be grateful to Wikisposure. However, it's just business as usual. They'll post the news article on BoyChat, but won't allow them to say that Harold Spurling was one of their most respected pedo-members Aztram. Perhaps some of them are worried about the secrets he can tell. If so they'll surely not say it, instead we just hear the usual mumbo-jumbo distorted crap -- most of it sounds like it could have come right out of Sosen. Or a certain little podcast or two.

Zlurker, visiting from GirlChat. Who does this remind you of? The belief that the government has no right to tell parents they can't give permission for their children to have sex?

But, again, infants and toddlers are incapable of giving consent.

Though I am not very interested in infants, I dispute that. It is true for some "activities", but not for all "activities". I would also add that for some "activities", the parent's consent on behalf of the infant or toddler should be enough.

Toothless Bill Evans

the vast majority of cops are lying, bullying cunts who have no hesitation in "creating" their own evidence if they want to "get" someone.

The Dadbeater

They have no evidence against Spurling other than the statement of a 14 year old boy.

The raid was incited by extremist vigilantes who have a history of entrapment, deceit and potential fraud. The question is not whether the alleged acts are ethical. The question is whether they ever occurred.

Icarus

We all have our private lives, but I hope this guy "Spurling" had the sense not to show his face on those videos if it was indeed him... I'm sure he's a really good guy.

slvrspun

I remember reading previously about this very suspiciously organised case and recall that an anonymous informant was mentioned, which could very well turn out to be bogus and could fatally damage the prosecution case against them. That would be very interesting indeed.

mrb

The law is not on your side in the United States, and it takes millions of dollars to even try to make it apply fairly to you.

Whatever. Fuck the U.S.A.

As an aside, I just had the most boy-filled week I can ever remember having in all my life this past week. This, after the filth told me I'd never be near a child again for the rest of my life after I was busted. HAHA. Last laugh is on me. Some of them were naked too. hehehe :)

As 2008 winds down I'd like to offer a huge HT to Wikisposure for their role in helping to get these two men off the streets and away from children. Let's have a little reminder here of how this all started over on the old boyloveblog. Pedophiles intentionally antagonizing and drawing attention to themselves. What did he think was going to happen? I'm sure Dylan Thomas, Jim Finn, Aztram et al are very grateful too. So for old times sake and all.......Be careful what you wish for guys.

“I think this hysteria regarding childhood sexuality rests firmly
on a general fear and hatred of sex itself.
Otherwise, why would people think sex isn't for children?”

.........Harold Spurling

Cheers from the Deeeep South! :)

http://boychat.org/messages/1142613.htm

Well they've already deleted it. Leave it to a bunch of filthy pedophile boy rapers to try and hide the truth. Fortunately..........we saw it first.

What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been!

Posted by silly1 on 2008-October-11 00:22:08, Saturday

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First of all, no, melf, you don't get to out me this time. I'm doing it myself. So while I'm sure you are chuckling and rubbing your hands together because you know the IP I prf'd from was from a KNOWN ANTI, you don't get to sit on that info and think you're some kind of know it all. :)

I wrote my last letter to Dylan a few days ago. It is a good feeling to finally close this chapter. Because, you see, doing what we did with this nick wasn't easy. We had to listen to all of Dylan's bullshit on the radio, and I had to pretend I liked him. As a matter of fact, he thought I was his biggest fan. His best friend.

Isn't that what you guys do? Pretend you're a kid's best buddy, only you have another agenda? Turnabout is fair play, and sometimes it's pretty fun.

The day we found out Dylan was finally arrested, after months of monitoring his every move, was one of the most hilarious days in history. Not only had we managed to help the FBI nail a Top Ten Wanted, but we also got to listen in, if you will, on pedophiles freaking the fuck out about it. Oh yes, I have an actual audio recording of that! :)

So, the next time you see a pedo saying Peej had nothing to do with this, you will want to take a short trip back in time and remember exactly how this went down.

And, of course, all the others who were identified were just icing on the Dylan Thomas cake. IRC logs, months of them, of you stupid fuckers typing away about your lives, your "YF"s, your illnesses, your financial problems. What a bunch of moochers and wrecked individuals you are. But your misery is enjoyable to some people, as I'm sure you know.

For example, did you know that Dylan is allergic to penicillin? And that his dick had big pus-y sores on it because of that, when he was having his tooth problems? We. laughed. so. hard.

Did you know that Skylark is trying to fake that he has autism by substituting the word "me" for "I" in his sentences? And that Bill pays for his cigarettes, but makes him make his OWN wine? And that Dacarus is a pathetic piece of shit who's grooming even more kids, even after he was found out about by his community?

There are many, many things we've discovered this year. But the biggest laugh of all is when Dylan wrote to me and said that Peej had nothing to do with his arrest. What a huge laugh we all had at that one line in his letter, handwritten just to me. :) And how funny it was that the rest of this garbage "community" felt that that was some sort of confirmation. He wrote that letter to me, which I passed along to Bill. Starting to see the picture now?


Oh, I sure hope you guys fight about security now. We love to see that happen. After all, I WAS staff at BTR. -waves at toothless ugly ass Bill-
You know, the safe and secure BTR you're always being invited to. Yeah, that one.

Ahh, finally, an end to this persona. It feels good to be free. Unlike Dylan. lol. He gets to spend the rest of his life thinking about how he trusted me, loved me, begged me to never forget him. He asked me, get this, he asked me to make a memorial website for him. Not just any old memorial website, but the website of all websites, the one that would make him a LEGEND. Yes, there he is, sitting in jail for molesting a child, thinking that somehow he could become a legend.

He and many of your other friends get to stare at blank walls for years and years, knowing that their very narcissism is what got them busted. All of your idiotic "security measures" will not keep you safe from jail. You're too fucking stupid.

There will be a full write-up about this soon, so keep your eye out for it. Xavier is so good at those things, and it will be extremely amusing.

Cheers from the Deeeep South! :)

Wikisposure Identified Jon Savarino Schillaci

Here's the face that the FBI chose to make the poster boy for its efforts to crack down on child molesters

Back in 1989, Schillaci was a 17-year-old sometime-transvestite who haunted Montrose and was just getting into a world that would land him among the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives.

After serving ten years in prison for molesting two 11 year old boys, recording it, then trying to sell it, he groomed a family into trusting him, that he was reformed, that he wanted another chance at life. They took him in and in less than two months he had molested their 5 year old son multiple times. Dylan Thomas, the webmaster of BoyChat.

By accident, the Wikisposure Project came across Jon Schillaci aka Dylan Thomas hiding in Mexico

It wasn't federal agents or police, but an Internet watchdog group that apparently uncovered the vital link in catching a convicted pedophile who was hiding in Mexico, but got his start in Houston.

Authorities were looking for Jon Schillaci, who was on the FBI's list of the 10 most-wanted fugitives, but a break came when the Wikisposure Project discovered his identity and Internet-connection address while researching a mysterious Webmaster for a site catering to pedophiles.

"We go after the leaders, we go after everybody," said Xavier Von Erck, director of operations for the project.

Wikisposure, which is not affiliated with the Wikipedia online encyclopedia, builds databases on pedophile activists.

The group accidentally came across Schillaci as it sought to uncover the identity of someone using the name Dylan Thomas to operate a pedophile Web site and radio show.

"When we started out, we had no intention of catching an FBI Top Ten Most Wanted guy," Erck said, noting Dylan Thomas seemed too brazen, arrogant and careless to be in hiding.

He said he could hardly believe no one knew Dylan Thomas and Schillaci were the same person.

And what about the boys he originally went to prison for? What do they think about this? Dylan wrote many times about it. I wonder if their story matches his..........

Jon Savarino Schillaci's victims here included twin brothers who were sexually assaulted, videotaped, humiliated and threatened.

"I think about it every day, and I won't lie about it, he took advantage of 11-year-old boys," said one of the men, now a father. "I'd tell him to his face: Jon, you are wrong for what you did. I hope you burn in hell."

Nah, I didn't think so.

Visit Wikisposure for the full story of Dylan Thomas, the webmaster who went into that good night. In an orange jumpsuit no less.

And the Witch Hunt Continues.....

Curtis of BoyChat fame says

"what the witchhunt seeks to prevent is consensual sex and erotic love between a boy and a man"

And Jan Kruska says

"States across the country are now lifting the "staute [sic] of limitations" on sex crimes. I think it is safe to say they [sic] most of us can now start shitting our pants"

I thought that was a pretty interesting statement. She said it in her article titled ...AND THE WITCH HUNT CONTINUES And what do you know? Jan is on a witch hunt herself.

We talked about her attempt to slander Anti's with her fabricated accusations of child pornography. But Jan made other accusations that I'd like to address as well. Specifically her statements revealing her bigotry and religious intolerance.

We all know how those who oppose us consistently state that our mission is based upon Christian Fundamentalism. So I'd like to refer you to a post we did about this very thing way back when. Located HERE we discussed the fact that AZ is not a political group nor a religious group. Our members come from a diverse background with the common thread being the fact that we all oppose pedophiles. We don't talk about religion because it has no bearing on this topic. The hatred and scorn that society feels towards those who prey on children crosses all lines. It's universal.

Jan Kruska in her pathetic attempt to expose anti's made this statement:

"almost without exception: each Perverted Justice member is either an Atheist or a Wiccan/Pagan"

I can't for the life of me figure out where she got that except that the innocent person she attacked, exposed and defamed is Wiccan. This person who is not a member of PeeJ nor a member of AZ. Yet the question begs to be answered, so what if they were? The pedoheads jumped right on it too

taf-kat

"Was enjoying the read until the atheist bit - I'm an atheist, and I wouldn't like to thing [sic] that being one is a term of abuse per se"

CrimsonVampire

"Whats wrong with this? Whats wrong with being an Atheist or a Wiccan/Pagan? They make it seem like a bad thing. Most Witches are very loving and kind people"

Baldur

"so I am not surprised to find that both PJ and GC have a large number of Atheists and Wiccans. Both groups consist of people who are not exactly in the majority"

Theo

"That bit caught me off guard too. Mostly because it's such a bizarrely irrelevant thing to bring up"

Spherious

"ROFLMGOPMP rollingonfloorlaughingmygutsoutpissingmypants....."

Scapegoat

"It would seem to me that bringing up to the religious persuasions (or lack thereof) of PJ members at the end of the article is simply an ad hominem. If the allegation is true, though, it might make those that believe the death of religion will necessarily lead to the liberation of boylovers think twice"

Dylan Thomas

"It's a shame the reporter used a word-choice that makes it sound like the religion itself matters"

JamieB

"While this particular article is awfully written, I don't think it's doing us any good to try to distance ourselves from such articles - as the saying goes, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!". Specifying that they're all wiccans and pagans is, I agree, logically irrelevant to the debate"

Enochian

"Quite frankly, Ms. Rogers' piece was so rambling and tried to connect so many unrelated things, that it closely resembled the nonsense disseminated by Peej itself"

King of Hearts

"So what you're saying is.........it's a witch hunt"

A witch hunt? Oh no, see Jan went back and doctored her article. Now it says

"Other discoveries are that almost without exception: each Perverted Justice member is either an Atheist or a Wiccan/Pagan (giving Wiccans a bad name because theirs is a very peaceful religion)"

*Head Snap*

What was that? It sounds to me as though Jan found out that it wasn't cool to disparage someone's religious beliefs simply because she's prejudiced against it herself. It appears to me that Jan is trying to placate the pedo community while maintaining her position of 'fire into the crowd and perhaps you'll hit the right person' She's saying here that it's wrong for Anti's to be Atheist, Christian, Jewish, Wiccan or any other religion because SHE thinks it would make other Atheists, Christians, Jews or Wiccans look bad to have a common belief. She tried to fix her mistake and made it worse.

And she DARES to claim others are ignorant, hypocritical, and bigoted?

"Native Americans, Salem “Witches”, African Americans, Homosexuals, and now Sex Offenders. While people cannot change their skin color or perhaps their sexual preference ALL have suffered or are suffering from the same irrational hate. A hate born of ignorance and fear. What does this say about us as a society?"

You tell us Jan. You tell us why you singled out a completely innocent person. A person who has never been involved with this issue and proceeded to accuse her of downloading child pornography, “intimidates, threatens and harasses her chosen victims”, “uses photographs of children to entice men” and lastly, the coup de tête of your malicious attack: “conspires to commit blackmail, harassment and intimidation, slander whereby she encourages others to commit fraud, cyberstalking, physical harm and murder to those she targets”.

You tell us why you made those wild, hysterical allegations of Anti's being lesbians, Wiccans, making yarn art, being adopted or even fat considering how tolerant you are. To use your words, Jan, "perhaps stupid has indeed been telling dumb dumb what to do" eh?

Meet Ku Klux Jan

Graphics courtesy of Jacey

The special agent visit

Nigel nigel nigel ... when will you learn? Your the criminal here. Don't try to push me around.
I am not a 15 yr old girl anymore.




A special thanks goes out to Stitches and Jacey for their help!

Feds take over Jimbo's case!

So according to this article, James Patrick Finn III is going to be formally charged by Federal Prosecutors!

Federal prosecutors have taken over a case involving a Lincoln Park man arrested for possessing hundreds of images of child pornography.


James Patrick Finn III, 42, is facing federal charges of possession of child pornography and receipt of child pornography. He faces the possibility of up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Finn had been facing state child pornography charges after being arrested July 17 in his house in the 3300 block of Applewood. That matter, however, was dropped last month.

"In this particular case, we have dismissed our case so the feds can proceed with theirs," said Maria Miller, spokeswoman for the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office.

We have to remember that it was by the actions of members of Perverted Justice that JimF3 (James Patrick Finn III) was brought to the attention of the Detroit Police Department, and eventually caught by them in the act of downloading child porn!

Great work Perverted Justice!!

Unspinning the Spin

Who said this?

"While sexual abuse is despicable there are indeed things that are much worse in life. Most children do not die or become permanently disfigured as a result"

And

"Think of the child within the sex offender who is still hurting"

Jan Kruska said it, who else?

Jan, a board member of SoClear defined her purpose

"made it her mission to educate the public on the truth behind the headlines: To cut through the hype and spin to bring you the facts, un-tethered by political bias, affiliations, or agendas"

So that is what we are going to do. We're going to cut through the hype and spin....Unspinning Jan's spin.

We all watched her bimbo-headed temper tantrum over the last couple of weeks. We watched her flap and scramble attacking uninvolved individuals and stating unequivocally that they are guilty of sex offenses against children. No if's or maybe's about it from Jan. No, she stated it as fact.

Let's start right here with an article she wrote for American Chronicle. Since she's accusing AZ of belonging to Perverted Justice, and since she's mixing and matching her information however she sees fit, I believe it calls for some commentary, don't you?

She says that a report has been filed with the FBI and the CyberTipLine accusing PeeJ members of downloading child pornography. It quickly made it through the pedophile community who, having a warped mentality anyway, took it to mean it was true. So, I just want to take a moment and clear something up, you know so that we're all SO CLEAR

Jan Kruska is the only person who has made this asinine accusation

I could also report Jan to CyberTipline and the FBI for downloading CP

• If I did that, it would be true that I did make the report


• It wouldn't make it true that Jan did it however just because I said it

Jan, having claimed elsewhere that AZ is a blog belonging to PeeJ makes a rather bold statement in this article of hers.

Some interesting quotes gleaned from their websites include: “PRETEND to be child advocates” and “Don’t go posting a cp (child porn) pic somewhere to offend people, only to have your ip (address) logged and have yourself arrested. Learn the ways of staying anonymous online.”

Well that just sounds horrible, doesn't it? If Anti's are saying those sorts of things. And Jan obviously wants you to believe it's true, she repeated it on her website and made the words giant sized red bold to make sure everyone sees it. So by George, I'm gonna make sure they see it too.

Because, you see, Jan took those words right off of AZ. Yep, she got it right here

Words straight out of the mouth of a filthy pedophile.

Words that we were discussing.

Words that were referenced with a link to the author.

The quotes Jan used were found on AZ

You can read pedophile remarks on Anti Blogs

• Jan is either blind
  


• Or Jan is maliciously spinning the truth.

She's written an entire article about it, and she's trying to make sure everyone sees it. She has reported people to the FBI claiming that they download child pornography......based upon a pedophile she found us quoting and analyzing on AZ.

That's what unethical journalists do. They spin. And they spin. And they spin.

HT to Jacey for graphics!

Don't Go!!

Don't go Descartes, you were my only friend. ):

Oh Descartes, really I just feel so bad. Like perhaps I may have contributed to this.

And seriously Descartes I wish you wouldn't go. I mean you were my only friend ):

Well except for sans25 (but that's another story)

Oh and Santi of course (but that doesn't count) so Descartes please DON'T GO!! Don't do it, don't, no!!!!

Remsen Benedict AKA Wolfman the Bus driver

corporatesexoffenders.com strikes again with it's second arrest in the last week.

Last week it was Jim Finn AKA Jimf3

Today we have Wolfman a school bus driver, Boy Scouts leader and pedophile.

Wolfman has stated that he meets his 'young friends' through scouting and frequently discusses how attracted he is to different boys on the school bus he drives.

"For me it is the prepube charature that attracts me. I like the small skinny figure with little or no hair. Their mind has an inocense to it."

52 year old Remsen McGinnis Benedict of Novato, California was arrested today on child pornography charges after authorities were alerted to his wikisposure article.

Needless to say the Boy Scouts are none to happy with him. Let alone the school. Or the parents, or the authorities for that matter.

"We have four computers that were taken from his residence," Laveroni added. "There was a quantity of digital images that led to his arrest."Laveroni wouldn't say how many pornographic digital images were found, but he said the number was high enough to have Benedict's bail "enhanced" to $500,000." SOURCE

"The investigation began when police received an e-mail July 26 from the Novato Advance newspaper about a corporate sex offenders Web site that contained biographical information about Benedict and his photograph.

He was booked into the Marin County Jail under a $500,000 bail enhancement because of the nature and quantity of the images seized and his access to children"
SOURCE

"A school bus driver and Boy Scout volunteer in Novato was arrested after a watchdog group linked him to pedophilia sites on the Internet and police seized a trove of child pornography from his home, authorities said Thursday.
Remsen McGinnis Benedict, 52, of Novato was booked into Marin County Jail on four counts related to possessing or exchanging child pornography. Bail was set at $500,000 because of Benedict's "access to children and the nature and quantity of images seized," said Novato police Sgt. Dave Jeffries." SOURCE

Now isn't that just a lovely sight? There's no telling who's gonna be next. There's just no telling.

HUGE thanks to Perverted Justice and the Corporate Sex Offenders website for all the hard work. As I said yesterday....

"If we don't stand up for children, then we don't stand for much"
--Marian Wright Edelman

Jack McClellan's Lovely History

I'm honored and delighted to have been invited to post to this blog. Thanks to all the folks who run this place, it's one of the best blogs online. :)

I've posted this on my own blog, but it doesn't get near the amount of traffic AZ gets, so, here goes!

There is a lot of press about this guy again, I've noticed. But one thing that I haven't seen any of them talk about is something that is posted on his wiki, which is what he was doing BEFORE he made his pedosite. If you take a look at it, it's pretty damned scary.


His former sites looked just like his "girl love" websites, only, instead of focusing on little girls, they focused on prostitution. Like the wiki article says, the prostitutes he wrote about, and the areas where he found them were rated, just like the little girls and the places they visit are rated.

The websites were laid out exactly the same, and he also focused on "dark places," drugs, circumcision and radio. Such a fine focus on things like this is called a fetish.

Now, fetishes themselves are not dangerous. However, when a fetishist is focused on a child, that's dangerous. Fetishists' focuses are objects to them, even if they're living things. They're things they can buy, own, use as they sexually please.

If you take a look at these pedosites, that's what they're doing all the time. When you hear sex offenders talk about their prey, you will RARELY hear remorse. You won't hear them say that they're sorry for ruining a life. Yes, they're sorry they got caught, but they felt entitled to do what they did, and the people they harmed are simply debris.

Like the folks over at AZ say, everyone keeps saying that he hasn't done anything illegal, but if you go to the wayback machine (archive.org) and take a look at http://svstreetguide.org, you'll see that 1. he HAS done illegal things he got by with (frequented prostitutes in areas where prostitution is illegal), that 2. he views little girls exactly the same objectivising way he viewed prostitutes and 3. he's got very focused fetishes that he goes on and on about.

He's very precise. He uses symbols to describe everything from price to police presence. Here is a sample entry on his prostitute site:
Olympia
P, PP, L: 0-90 days, $0-$1000. U18: 0-5 years, $0-$10,000.
Plum St SE & Legion Way SE. (7-2) 3300 block of Martin Way E. (7-2) 1530 Black Lake Blvd SW. (7-2)
Areas that have potential: Blocks between State Ave NW / NE, 5th Ave SW / SE, Capitol Way NE / N, Pear St NE / SE. Sylvester Park (between Capitol Way N, Washington St SE, Legion Way SE, 7th Ave SE). Capitol Way N > Capitol Way SE > Capitol Blvd S from 5th Ave SW to Trosper Rd SE / SW in Tumwater. 4th Ave E > Martin Way E from Pear St SE / NE to Marvin Rd NE /SE in Lacey. Area around Trosper Rd SW & S 2nd Ave > Littlerock Rd SW in Tumwater.
Does anyone seriously believe that he went to those prostitutes, asked them how much they cost, and left? No.


Does anyone seriously believe that he has spent all this time and energy making a website about how to find little girls, without touching any of them? Does ANYONE?

Not me. No way in hell. He's just yet to be caught

Thanks again for inviting me to be a guest on your blog. :)

Albertross

"What am I getting at here.....I'm trying to say that I don't think there's going to be any huge revelation here, I don't think there's going to be any glorious dramatic change in society. I think that this is just one of those things that just gradually change until you don't realize it has changed....it sort of sneaks up on you."

So begins the "final battle" of Albert Ross. But what exactly is the goal of his war? Is it acceptance and tolerance? Is it the ability to upload videos to youtube without the militia knocking down his door, er I mean his plastic? Is it merely a tribute to 'Alice Day' the pedo holiday of perversions? Or is it something more sinister? Let's listen to more and see....

"So what does this mean? What it means to me is this idea if only we could have a little more courage and felt a little easier about the support we do have and confident....they wouldn't be able to stand against us. The measures that are being taken in parts of the US in particular and England and other places are very seriously unconstitutional. They are really pushing the limits of what any society is or should be permitted to do for a segment of the population and that must change. Right now it won't change because the people who are pushing these agendas have almost free reign still it is very difficult for those in our position to stand up and make a clearer argument."

Here we go again. Let's repeat ....not every country has legislated free speech, Albert. Sorry to burst your bubble but even England is not protected under OUR constitution. Neither are you as a matter of fact. You see, James, the American Constitution doesn't extend to Sechelt, British Columbia. But let's continue....

"It is one thing to point at what's wrong with the measures being applied here but that sort of gets washed away when the people pushing the measures...go 'well its to protect the children...obviously we have to take extreme measures because there's an extreme danger here'. That's bullshit. There is no extreme danger. There's never been an extreme danger. There have been cases there are incidents but its never been as serious as people would like to believe."

Hmmm... 1 out of 6 children will be molested every year? Or whatever statistic you choose to use........I just can't help but wonder how many it would take for James to consider it a problem. Oh wait, I forgot.....he thinks they are all consensual.

"........you're gonna hate this........you're gonna scream at me.......but when I think of Girl Chat, I think of you guys.....forgive me.....as dwarves sitting there in your smelly little cave....your vast layers of terrified security discussing bravely the horrible terror that you live in. Yes, I know it is horrible and yes I know it is a terror. But, oh boy, if only we could just accept that we have a right and we'd be there, and all of this wouldn't be a problem. It's beautiful, because if we could, if we could actually just be........

.......what's left of the damaged ones, the hurt ones, the people who do want to kill us, the people will in fact present a threat to us.......there aren't that many of them. Perverted Justice for instance is not a huge organization, it's way tinier than any of our forums. It's a bunch of really not very bright people and they won't show up very well in front of the general public. You know if it came down to an argument in public between us and them - we'd win. There's no question that we'd carry the day under those circumstances. What they're doing can't stand the light of reason, so what I guess I'm trying to say is that we're actually helping to keep the darkness in place by the way we're acting and the difficulty of course is that it's safe what we're doing. It's not much of a life but it's safe and we don't have to worry too much as long as we're careful. We're not gonna get hurt. But, what are we losing, what are we giving away in exchange for that? So it's not something I can advise anyone else to do. I've taken the step for myself and I wanted to find out.....I got sick of being caught in this dark space and find out what the reality was and.....Come on out, man, the water's fine."

The water is indeed fine because, you see, AlbertRoss is getting smaller and smaller. First he gave us glimpses of his lean-to with the plastic walls, the high-speed internet and the garbage on the floor. Then he tried redecorating by hanging sheets behind him. Then he crawled off into the corner and said it was for protection from the elements. Perhaps that's why he smokes continuously in the little closed box..........it's his heat source. But now, he's showing less and less of himself until his most recent video, of which there's been about 40 so far, you can only see his eyes. Pretty soon the only thing that will remain is a black screen.


To all the little dwarves in their smelly little caves.........Come out, come out wherever you are!

Who is alistaircato?

If you know.... *I* want to know. Is this a new pedofreak on the scene who hasn't yet learned the ropes? Is he so obsessed that he's oblivious to rules of conduct? Well, that wouldn't be unusual but this guy is simply over the top!

He shows up out of nowhere on GirlChat begging.....repeatedly for people to join his Myspace community....or his Live Journal. And while we all already know about LJ....it's simply infested with pedophiles, still I had to go check it out....didn't I? Now this little freak wants some attention and I think we should give him some.



alistaircato -- Aussie Girl Lover
Location: ballarat, victoria, Australia
Birthdate: 1977-08-02

What are you trying to find alistaircato? What sort of people are you trying to attract to you? You listed 140 different interests and the only one that stands apart from the others is GOLF. Do you want to associate with people who would list these things as their interests? Well I suppose you do considering they are YOUR interests. Here's a sampling of what alistair is looking for:

barebacking, blowjobs, bondage, boy love, boybliss, boychat, boylove, boys in panties, child abuse, child fucking, child love, child molestation, child molesting, child nudity, child porn, child pornography, child sexual abuse, child sexuality, childlove, consentual incest, consentual underage sex, dad/son, daddy/boy, daddy/daughter, daddy/little girl, daddy/son, dating preteens, deflowering preteen virgins, family love, fantasies, fantasizing, fantasy, female pedophiles, forbidden love, fucking kids, fucking little kids, fucking young girls, girl love, girlchat, girllove, girls, gl, incest, kiddie porn, kinky sex, little boys, little girls, lolita, lust, man/boy, men fucking young girls, molestation, molester, mommy/daughter, mother/daughter, naughty mommy, naughty schoolgirl, nude preteens, nudists, oral sex, orgies, pederasty, pedo, pedologues, pedophile, pedophile activism, pedophiles, pedophilia, pedosexuality, perversion, perverted stories, perverts, porn, pornography, prepubescence, preschool, preteen, preteen ass, preteen boys, preteen girls, preteen girls fucking adults, preteen sex, preteen sexuality, preteens, preteens raping adults, preteens wanting adult boyfriends, pubescence, puellula, purity, rape, school girls, schoolgirls, security, sex, sexual freedom, sin, small boobs, small cocks, statutory rape, taboo sex, twincest, under 18, underage, underage sex, underground porn, unprotected, virgins, woman/boy, young boys, young girls, young little boys

If you go check it out, be sure and check out the people he's added as friends. It's an eye-opener to be sure. I suppose this is just one of the reasons that Perverted-Justice has listed Live Journal as a Corporate Sex Offender. Let's try to help LJ clean up their act, shall we? Report any blogs you see here that are definitely outside LJ's own terms of service by clicking HERE

LJ TOS:
You agree to NOT use the Service to:
Harm minors in any way

~ PeeJ on NPR ~

BoyChatters are all abuzz! Here's why.....

Ethics of NBC's Sting Show 'To Catch a Predator'

Talk of the Nation, January 16, 2007 · The online watchdog group Perverted Justice lures sexual predators by posing as minors online and inviting them to meet up in person. And Dateline NBC's wildly popular "To Catch a Predator" series has captured audiences nationwide with a mix of fear and voyeurism.

Guests:

Douglas McCollam, attorney and contributing writer for Columbia Journalism Review

Chris Hansen, host of NBC Dateline series "To Catch a Predator"

Richard Rapaport, San Francisco-based freelance writer, author of "Dying and living in 'COPS' America" a critique of "To Catch a Predator."

Xavier von Erck, founder of pervertedjustice.com

National Public Radio discussed Dateline's To Catch a Predator series yesterday, the focus being was it ethical?

Listen to it HERE

For some unknown reason, yet predictably, these boyChatting perverts believe this radio show was favorable to them. They are all excited "Let's all send emails voicing our opinion! Let's try to get a boyLover interviewed on the show! A boyLovers perspective!"

So I would like to point out to these clueless perverts that not one single person on that show had anything good to say about YOU! In fact, every single person on that show agreed that pedophiles are sick and dangerous. In fact, some of the words the guests and the host used were "horrific, horrible, unsympathetic people to put it mildly, beyond the pale, and scum of the earth." So get a clue.

And while all the little pedo heads are writing their emails, we can be writing ours.

Send your opinions to
talk@npr.org

Copyright 101

Amongst so many other things, copyright laws seem to be something the paeds just can’t seem to grasp. I first became aware of this phenomenon when reading this thread on the Visions of Alice forum.

You see, a member was concerned about possible copyright breaches when paedophiles steal photos from online albums and upload them to VoA. Well of course the other members jump in to share their infinite wisdom regarding copyright.

We see the typical bizarre justifications:

Raccoon states:

Breaking a law that is not working in the best interest of the general population is not a crime but an act of civic duty.

F.P.J. Mask shows typical paedophile disregard for anyone else:

Yes, it would break these people’s hearts to see their family pics on a site like this. But we can’t cave in.

Childdriver, well…..

Somehow I thing if a lea were to break into my computer and trump up some criminal charge, I’m pretty sure copyright infringement would not be what they come up with.

Ok these sorts of demented rationalizations were expected. But what wasn’t anticipated was the complete misinterpretation and lies that followed. See, Lawndog thought he’d set them all straight:

There is a “limited use” clause in the copy right law that says for the sake of promotion or review a portion of copy righted material may be used. One could argue that the posting of pictures from modeling or other copy righted sites is done to review what is seen there, ie “Sandra looks really hot in this picture”

Well it was a good effort anyway, wasn’t it? Considering their capacity for thought and intelligence, I thought it was pretty decent.

What Lawndog is referring to is known as the doctrine of fair use contained in section 107 of the Copyright Act which does allow for the use of portions of copyright work. Poor Lawndog failed to realize that an ENTIRE picture really doesn’t qualify as a portion; it is therefore excluded from any protection under fair use. There is no exact measure of what portion of a particular work may be copied, courts determine whether each individual case is a matter of fair use or not. In making this determination, the courts will consider the following:

a. Purpose & character of the use
b. Amount & substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole.
Copyright Office

I think perhaps they all sensed that Lawndog’s reasoning was skewed however they follow up with even more ridiculous crap. Apparently the idea that gained the most support is the one that follows.

Frederick starts us off with:

I fall into the category of: “If you post something on the internet, it becomes public, ‘nuff said.”.

Even more amazingly, a moderator on the board known as Hedonist supports this completely absurd notion:

If the pictures in question are on a site to be shared with the general population, it falls under the laws of public domain.

You don’t really know whether to laugh or cry do you? For anyone out there who believes the above rubbish, I would suggest you read this page which addresses common copyright myths. As the author states,

Nothing modern and creative is in the public domain anymore unless the owner explicitly puts it in the public domain. Explicitly, as in you have a note from the author/owner saying, “I grant this to the public domain.” Those exact words or words very much like them.

I personally find it pretty frightening that one of the people charged with maintaining the ‘legality’ of that site can make such brazenly stupid false statements with no understanding whatsoever regarding the law he refers to and advises users on.

In any case, my interest in this topic has been piqued once again. You see these poor unfortunates think they actually have a copyright claim against Perverted Justice.

After PeeJ posted a screenshot of a repulsive forum discussion, D really does give it his best shot:

Both GirlChat and Heirophant now have copyright claims against PJ and their hosting provider. The former has a copyright on the design of the screen, and the boilerplate text. H. of course owns his own words. Everyone who replied has a copyright to their subject lines.

I was originally going to provide a detailed explanation of why this falls under fair use and therefore none of them actually have a valid claim. But I don’t really think that is necessary; can you guess why?

they’d have to slither out of the toybox and show the world what they really are to file a suit against PeeJ

So instead I’ll leave you with Daydreamer’s Top 10 Copyright Lessons For Paedophiles:

1.Your opinion of the law is entirely irrelevant.

2.You need moderators who understand the laws they are advising you on.

3.Your opinion that a civil suit against you is unlikely does not mean it won’t happen...

4.It doesn’t matter whether a copyright notice is visible or not, the pictures are still protected.

5.Attempting to shield your words behind an extensive copyright notice does not preclude others using it under the terms of fair use.

6.A screenshot or preview IS fair use.

7.Stealing an entire picture is NOT fair use.

8.Public domain is not a literal phrase. By your line of reasoning, this - that car is in the public domain (street) therefore its now public property - would make perfect sense. Dumbasses, get a clue.

9.You will never bring a copyright suit against PeeJ because you cannot afford for Xavier to find out who you are.

10. I invite and encourage any paedophile who thinks they have a copyright claim against me to file a suit and meet me in court :)

By Land and Sea and Air

On horseback, steamboats and jets. The mail always gets through..........or does it?

For those of you who have been keeping up with the attempt by Perverted Justice to shut down Pedo sites you should be familiar with this. Read more HERE and HERE.

The pedofreaks don't seem to want to go quietly into that good night. They believe they can get a court injunction to stop the closing of their pedo sites. They believe somehow, that they can FORCE someone to sell them a service which they don't want to sell them. Go figure.

Well, naturally they need money for the attorneys, and naturally when they begged for donations and got lots of pledges, all those pledges have somehow not appeared....promptly. They're a little bit worried now. They're down to the wire. They need $20,000 pronto.

But ya know, thinking about this it just reminded me so much of something else. Remember the whole Save the Children fiasco? We wrote about it HERE and HERE. Also HERE, HERE and HERE

And thinking of that reminded me of THIS and all the pedo-anxiety they all experienced when they talked about making anonymous donations. They had so many suggestions concerning how to make donations while remaining SAFE, that you couldn't help but chuckle. Some suggestions included:

Only send cash
Mail from another location
Wear surgical gloves
Don't use lickable stamps....but if you do use a sponge and bottled water...
But wait! Can water residue be traced?

And Porcelain seems the most concerned

"Why would I worry about a cash donation via the US postal service... well most letters these days are given a tracking number very close to the mail box the letter is taken from, hence, a route, especially in less populated areas, would allow the all pervasive government to narrow a search down considerably."

If they aren't doing anything illegal, what the hell is wrong with them? Stick a check in the mail and be done with it already! But then that's the Girl Chatters for you. Now we have the Boy Chatters trying desperately to get hold of some money. They don't want their message board to go down, no, it's almost like a lifeline for them. I mean heck, who else is going to tell them how wonderful they are? There's just a weeeee little problem here.

Lot's of eyes are on them.

They must be careful, you see.

One helpful pedofreak posted a a USPS chart with the length of time it takes the mail to arrive and the cost! Wow! How very helpful.

But when he referred those guys to the USPS website, and also instructed them to use a fake return address, perhaps he should have instead directed them to the Postal Inspectors website. You think? I guess in their pedo-hysteria they didn't realize there are laws about such things. And that those laws are Federal. And that their donations just might not ever arrive. Ever.

Action Alert

Perverted Justice is in the process of campaigning against companies that endorse Rookiee and his pedophile propoganda. Currently, PJ is specifically interested in Google/Blogger, and LibSyn who hosts his Pedologues Podcasts. CafePress was also contacted by PJ and has since shut down Rookiee's page along with YouTube and Xanga.

All members interested in helping with this campaign to actively address corporate association/endorsement of pedophilia, please go here to get the full details.

Please also take a moment to contact the relevant organizations to voice your opinions.

Administrative contact, LibSyn.org
Dave Chekan
bigpie@webmayhem.com
513 S Mathilda St
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15224
USA
412-682-4456


Google/Blogger
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View
CA
94043
US
dns-admin@google.com
+1.6502530000


Members are also encouraged to join the PJ forums to gain further details on how they can help this cause.

Rookieeeee Paddling Upstream

Faster Rookieeee Faster!!! All these groups I talked about being after you are closing in, paddle faster Rookieeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Oh well, Rookieeee finally discovered that Perverted Justice was after him. If it were me, I'd prefer to have AZ after me, but hey! to each their own right? Some people never listen, now he's got PJ on the warpath, reckon he'll have to pay the piper this time. You see, PJ has complained about the editing attempts at Wikipedia by the gang of thugs hereby known as pedofreaks. They think that by editing an online encyclopedia with lies, deceptions and distortions of the truth, that somehow they'll convince the mainstream how wonderful they are. ROFL

PJ has also complained about Cafepress, and guess what? Rookieeee's perverted sick-o-pathic T-Shirts, with which he was going to SHOW us how idiotic we were, well, they're gone. Cafepress shut him down. BooFreakingHoo

According to PJ they may not have caught on to Rookieeeee were it not for his rants about them. Rants = lies and distortions. You know, the typical pedopathetic behaviors they all exhibit.

Even Ella, went onto messenger and tried to argue with PJ. She then posts the conversation on Girl Chat. Quite funny actually when PJ is also posting the same conversation. You see, this is what I've learned.....Pedofreaks in their mutual delusional delirium are also unable to recognize sarcasm even when it slaps them in the face.

I would imagine the pedofreaks might be a little upset about this wouldn't you? Let's check it out and see what they're saying.....

Dissident thinks:

At least this makes it clear that PJ is primarily going after MAA's because we offend their personal sensibilities, not because they think they are "protecting" anyone. This convo was very telling, and I think the public should be aware of the reality behind this org

Rookieeee Revolyob (boylover):

Perverted Justice has created a very attacking and biased article on both myself and my podcast, accusing me of all sorts of false things, and has incited the public to begin disrupting my activist projects.

Turtle:

I keep telling people we are wasting our time unless we all work together, otherwise, they will just take down our retreats on the net one by one.

Ella:

PJ does not have infinite power. Some people respond to their bullying, but they don't control everything.

Tallguy:

He is made of the same material as real child-abusers are. It's not for no reason that he is so - shall we say - fascinated with child-abusers and child-abuse.

Nihil_aeturnius:

Decades of hysteria, dethroned with seven words!

Cangee:

Most antis just use protecting minors as a justification for their hatred of us. They really couldn't care less about children. this is why a group of anti-bloggers stopped a large donation to a children's charity.

Witness: delusion

Baldur:

So we have the American government conducting psychological torture of children, in their terrorist campaign against pedophiles.
Hmmmn. Sounds like time for a regime change. When do we send in the Marines?

Hey! I think that's a great idea. The MARINES! Who would've thought of that? Let's ask our team member Gunny, ya think? See what he has to say about this?

Rooooookieeeeeeee

Rookiee the brainiac thinks Daydreamer is a guy. He gets very disturbed when people mispell his name and he apparantly didn't like that post about him. He had this to say:

What about all the minors who ask to meet up with adults? Are they predators? Of course not, so how can it automatically be true vice-versa? "They don't know any better". If that's true, how can Perverted Justice employ them to entrap adults? If someone stalks, harasses and attempts to strike fear in someone, manipulating and forcing them to comply with their will, then I can agree that they are a predator. But, guess what guys? I'm seeing the same type of predatorial tactics being used on us by none other than yourselves!

Hey Rookieeeeee, why don't you go to perverted justice and read the actual transcripts of how these things go down? And then try again to convince everyone that it's the children begging old fuddy duddy sexual deviants to meet up with them. Then you can go back and change your name to Rookiee the idiotic brainiac.

You guys are vigilantes and are bordering breaking the law to further your hatred and bigotry, and I will not tolerate your actions.

Period.

Don't f*** with me.

Hey you brain infarcted pervert.
We aren't vigilantes.
We aren't breaking the law.
Neither are we bigots or hate mongers.

"You won't tolerate our actions?"

Just checking to make sure I heard you correctly.

Journalism Or Trash?

I don't much care how it's done, as long as it's done. I am referring to Fox News:

Shows like "America's Most Wanted" and "To Catch a Predator" are taking to the airwaves in an attempt to nab sexual predators in a very public way. These shows often involve trying to nab predators — or would-be predators — who communicate online with people they believe to be underage kids.

Great idea, actually. But, of course, let the whining commence:

"Sexual predators running around, picking up children off the 'Net are not an epidemic … ["To Catch a Predator"] focuses on the equivalent of a sexual straw man, turning the stranger-predator into the 'epidemic,'" said Pierre Tristam, a columnist at the Daytona Beach News-Journal in Florida, who recently wrote a controversial article on the popular "Dateline" series and says the shows epitomize "tabloid pulp."

Quite frankly, I very much enjoy the facial reactions of those caught. How can one possibly refute hard copies of e-mails and the video of one's actions?

Your opinion?

BZ