Rookieeeee Paddling Upstream

Faster Rookieeee Faster!!! All these groups I talked about being after you are closing in, paddle faster Rookieeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Oh well, Rookieeee finally discovered that Perverted Justice was after him. If it were me, I'd prefer to have AZ after me, but hey! to each their own right? Some people never listen, now he's got PJ on the warpath, reckon he'll have to pay the piper this time. You see, PJ has complained about the editing attempts at Wikipedia by the gang of thugs hereby known as pedofreaks. They think that by editing an online encyclopedia with lies, deceptions and distortions of the truth, that somehow they'll convince the mainstream how wonderful they are. ROFL

PJ has also complained about Cafepress, and guess what? Rookieeee's perverted sick-o-pathic T-Shirts, with which he was going to SHOW us how idiotic we were, well, they're gone. Cafepress shut him down. BooFreakingHoo

According to PJ they may not have caught on to Rookieeeee were it not for his rants about them. Rants = lies and distortions. You know, the typical pedopathetic behaviors they all exhibit.

Even Ella, went onto messenger and tried to argue with PJ. She then posts the conversation on Girl Chat. Quite funny actually when PJ is also posting the same conversation. You see, this is what I've learned.....Pedofreaks in their mutual delusional delirium are also unable to recognize sarcasm even when it slaps them in the face.

I would imagine the pedofreaks might be a little upset about this wouldn't you? Let's check it out and see what they're saying.....

Dissident thinks:

At least this makes it clear that PJ is primarily going after MAA's because we offend their personal sensibilities, not because they think they are "protecting" anyone. This convo was very telling, and I think the public should be aware of the reality behind this org

Rookieeee Revolyob (boylover):

Perverted Justice has created a very attacking and biased article on both myself and my podcast, accusing me of all sorts of false things, and has incited the public to begin disrupting my activist projects.

Turtle:

I keep telling people we are wasting our time unless we all work together, otherwise, they will just take down our retreats on the net one by one.

Ella:

PJ does not have infinite power. Some people respond to their bullying, but they don't control everything.

Tallguy:

He is made of the same material as real child-abusers are. It's not for no reason that he is so - shall we say - fascinated with child-abusers and child-abuse.

Nihil_aeturnius:

Decades of hysteria, dethroned with seven words!

Cangee:

Most antis just use protecting minors as a justification for their hatred of us. They really couldn't care less about children. this is why a group of anti-bloggers stopped a large donation to a children's charity.

Witness: delusion

Baldur:

So we have the American government conducting psychological torture of children, in their terrorist campaign against pedophiles.
Hmmmn. Sounds like time for a regime change. When do we send in the Marines?

Hey! I think that's a great idea. The MARINES! Who would've thought of that? Let's ask our team member Gunny, ya think? See what he has to say about this?

Rookiee The 'Brainiac'

Apparently the paedophiles are feeling rather threatened. They’re sending in the next line of defense. Rookiee has resurfaced here and attacked one of our guests for a ‘spelling error’....making this the perfect opportunity to consider Rookiee's agenda.

Rookiee is a wanna-be ringleader in the movement to make paedophilia a civil rights issue.

Two months ago he became enraged when he was banned from editing Wikipedia because he attacked and vilified Justin Berry – a victim of child pornography who brought numerous paedophiles to justice. Important to note here that the paedophile community does not view Justin as a victim but, to use their word, a whore.

Our latest encounter with Rookiee brought out his anger at the stings which have been set up to catch online predators. You can read his comments here. He, in classic paedophile form, blames the victims.

It really should come as no surprise then that he comes up with what he dubs a ‘brainiac scheme’.

Here’s how the scheme will work:

- Members of the paedophile community go into adult chat rooms and pose as ‘minors.’
- When adults ask to meet up, they will say no ‘politely but firmly’
- They will see how many adults continue these advances and how many will not
- These ‘results’ will be published on the net

Rookiee explains the purpose of this scheme

If my suspicions are correct, the majority of these adults are not predators and will not insist on meeting up with someone who does not want to. We need to then publish our findings on the web.

What say you?

Daydreamer says:

Brainiac scheme? This has to be the most idiotic plan I've ever seen.

I guess we shouldn’t expect much better from a person who so viciously attacks exploited and abused children though.

So I’m gonna go real slow here and try not to use big words:

If the adult asks to meet up with the child, he is a predator.

Got that? It doesn't matter how the child responds or whether the adult backs off or not.

Your scheme would neither prove a point nor provide any type of information - it only speaks to the level of desperation your community is reaching. You're making a laughing stock of yourself and your community. Ok, brainiac?

Clinical Data for this illness

Since discovering that Wikipedia can be edited to say anything without consequense, I thought I'd do a little digging into the Health Profession to see what they think. Hmmm. I don't believe these reports can be hacked.

I have only posted a small portion to whet your appitite. read the rest Here

Definition
Pedophilia is a paraphilia that involves an abnormal interest in children. A paraphilia is a disorder that is characterized by recurrent intense sexual urges and sexually arousing fantasies generally involving: nonhuman objects; the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one's partner (not merely simulated); or animals, children, or other nonconsenting persons. Pedophilia is also a psychosexual disorder in which the fantasy or actual act of engaging in sexual activity with prepubertal children is the preferred or exclusive means of achieving sexual excitement and gratification. It may be directed toward children of the same sex or children of the other sex. Some pedophiles are attracted to both boys and girls. Some are attracted only to children, while others are attracted to adults as well as to children.

Pedophilia is defined by mental health professionals as a mental disorder, but the American legal system defines acting on a pedophilic urge as a criminal act.

Description
The focus of pedophilia is sexual activity with a child. Many courts interpret this reference to age to mean children under the age of 18. Most mental health professionals, however, confine the definition of pedophilia to sexual activity with prepubescent children, who are generally age 13 or younger. The term ephebophilia, derived from the Greek word for "youth," is sometimes used to describe sexual interest in young people in the first stages of puberty.

The most common overt aspect of pedophilia is an intense interest in children. There is no typical pedophile. Pedophiles may be young or old, male or female, although the great majority are males. Unfortunately, some pedophiles are professionals who are entrusted with educating or maintaining the health and well-being of young persons, while others are entrusted with children to whom they are related by blood or marriage.

Demographics
Pedophilia is one of the more common paraphilias; the large worldwide market for child pornography suggests that it is more frequent in the general population than prison statistics would indicate. Together with voyeurism and exhibitionism, pedophilia is one of the three paraphilias most commonly leading to arrest by the police.

The onset of pedophilia usually occurs during adolescence. Occasional pedophiles begin their activities during middle age but this late onset is uncommon. In the United States, about 50% of men arrested for pedophilia are married.

The frequency of behavior associated with pedophilia varies with psychosocial stress. As the pedophile's stress levels increase, the frequency of his or her acting out generally rises also.

Pedophilia is more common among males than among females. In addition, the rate of recidivism for persons with a pedophilic preference for males is approximately twice that of pedophiles who prefer females.

read the entire report Here

The Spin Stops Here

Have you ever wondered how to get someone to believe something that isn't true? One way to do it I've discovered is to hop on over to Wikipedia find the topic of your choice and edit to your hearts content. Why lots of people do it....for example....

Lindsay Ashford with the pedophile entry, or how about Blueribbon and Jillium on the new Wikia. What's interesting to note is that both use the same references to support their propoganda that approximately 90% of all child sex abuse cases are NOT committed by pedophiles. So if that doesn't ring true to you, let's see if we can figure out why.

First they quote this figure and link to Ken Lanning's 2001 Behavioral Analysis Study, which we previously showed you was incorrect HERE. So where in the world did they get that figure? The one we all know isn't true. Read the references listed in Wiki (and of course HT to Jillium for pointing me in the right direction). There's 3 references listed here that they seem to rely on the most. The first is an article by JoAnn DiLorenzo, the second is a study posted on the Correctional Services of Canada website, and the third is a study by Australian Northern Territory Government.

So we're gonna tell you what they say is in the reports and what's really there, we'll give you links to them and let you decide for yourself.

Today we're going to talk about JoAnn DiLorenzo. No, no she's not a scientist, she's not a physician, she's not a law enforcement officer, or an attorney, judge, or psychologist. What she is though, is a journalist. She writes for an alternative news source called Valley Advocate. In 2001 she wrote an article called Profile of a Pedophile. Subtitled How a prominent Ware attorney preyed on troubled boys - and why some people in town continue to stand by him.. And THIS is how she is referenced over on Wiki.

{10}^ DiLorenzo, JoAnn (1981). "How a prominent Ware attorney preyed on troubled boys," The Valley Advocate, quoting the FBI's Kenneth Lanning, who estimates that only 10% of child sex offenders are preferential.

Hmmm, seems simple enough, let's trot on over and see what Ms. DiLorenzo wrote, shall we?

Lanning believes most child molesters fit neatly into two categories. About 90 percent are so-called "situational child molesters" who capitalize on opportunities to molest children but don't necessarily prefer sex with children. The situational molester sexually exploits children to satisfy a curiosity, for kicks or because he's simply morally indiscriminate.

The 10 percent of child molesters who make up the second category are the bona fide "pedophiles," those who genuinely favor sex with children. This category, Lanning said, has two subsets, the "introvert" and the "seductor." The seductor can be a seemingly upstanding citizen, the "male role model" a family's been looking, a priest, mentor, coach, friend. This is deeply unsettling to most people.

Now look at those two paragraphs. This experienced journalist, makes it appear that she's interviewing Lanning and quoting him. She's not. She throws in enough quotes (taken word for word from his 2001 study) to make it appear that her own words are his. They are not. If we return to Lanning's 2001 study we see that she has mischaracterized what he said.


DiLorenzo said:

Lanning believes most child molesters fit neatly into two categories.

Lanning said:

Although my old typology was still useful, its limitations gradually became evident to me. I realized that complex human behavior did not easily fit into neat little boxes. I, therefore, slowly began to revise it, and it has been updated by the typology presented here. This newer typology places all sex offenders, not just child molesters, along a motivational continuum, Situational to Preferential,instead of into one of two categories. It is a continuum, not one or the other. p. 24

And now for the real kicker........this is the perfect example of media SPIN

DiLorenzo writes:

"There are two things society still doesn't understand about child sexual assault," Lanning said. "The first is ... child molesters can be seemingly nice people who go to church every Sunday, nurse little birdies that fall out of the trees. They're involved in the community, they volunteer."

The other is that just as offenders are not always evil to the bone, victims are not always 100 percent good. Society wants its victims to be innocent. It's cleaner that way and easier to sympathize with the victim's plight. But it's not always the truth.

WHOA! Did you see that? Notice where the quotations are.... and then notice where they are not. The quoted source is straight out of Lannings 2001 study, the 2nd paragraph is straight out of Ms. DiLorenzo's head. What Lanning actually said was:

Other than lying, there are many possible alternative explanations for why victims might allege things that do not seem to be accurate. The

child might be exhibiting distortions in traumatic memory

child’s account might reflect normal childhood fears and fantasy

child’s account might reflect misperception and confusion caused by deliberate trickery or drugs used by perpetrators

child’s account might be affected by suggestions, assumptions, and misinterpretations of overzealous interveners

child’s account might reflect urban legends and shared cultural mythology

Such factors, alone or in combination, can influence a child’s account to be inaccurate without necessarily making it a “lie.” Children are not adults in little bodies. Children go through developmental stages that must be evaluated and understood. In many ways, however, children are no better or worse than other victims or witnesses of a crime. They should not be automatically believed or dismissed. p. 109

When adults and children have sex, the child is always the victim. p. 3

Lanning goes on to decribe all the reasons children may be dishonest such as shame, fear etc. He discusses all the challenges of dealing with the young victims. Wonder why it sounds so different coming from Ms. DiLorenzo? You think she might be trying to sway opinion? Have you ever heard of anyone referencing a journalist?


Don't take my word for this, follow the links, dig a little deeper, uncover the truth for yourself! Why are they lying and distorting the truth? If you can answer that question, then you need not ask any others.

The media, journalists, reporters etc can distort truths, they can mislead and spin and lie. Sometimes they get away with it, sometimes they don't. Ask Dan Rather, he'll tell you.

Dear Baldur

Our new friend Baldur has 'critiqued' my post about the Lanning report here. Here's my response:

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I*Love*Green*Olives said

Most (90% to 98%) child molesters are "situational offenders" who
abuse children because of stress or because they need a "power fix".

Lanning said p. 5

Except for child prostitution, most sexual-exploitation-of-children cases in the United States involve acquaintance molesters who rarely use physical force on their victims.

Baldur said

There is no conflict. Situational offenders are those who are not primarily attracted to children, but offend due to other causes - they may be drunk or otherwise impaired, they may be horny and the child is the only person around, or they might just be sadistic. Most of these offenders also happen to be acquaintances of the children they offend with, and they are more likely to entice, cajole, or threaten a child than to use physical force.

The fact that you made this statement demonstrates your lack of understanding of this term. Situational offenders are the ones who use force. Preferential offenders (paedophiles) are the deceptive, manipulative ones who groom their victims.

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Clayboy said

Most abuse is perpetrated by "situational offenders"; people who are not inherently attracted to children but use them because they see it as a convenient outlet and they are desperate.

Lanning said p. 37

Although a variety of individuals sexually abuse children, preferential-type sex offenders, and especially pedophiles, are the primary acquaintance sexual exploiters of children.

Baldur said

OK, these do conflict - but Lanning's opinion here also contradicts his opinion elsewhere, as well as the opinion of other researchers.

Yes they do conflict because it's a lie. Lanning did not contradict himself-he updated an old typology in this study. Anyone who has read it and understood it would know that. However, my position here is not to verify the validity of the Lanning study. This post was written to debunk the lies you paedophiles have attached to it.

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Lestat said

Again, no, that is why child molesters that ARENT attracted to children molest children.

Lanning said p. 39

A high percentage of acquaintance child molesters are preferential sex offenders who have a true sexual preference for children (i.e., pedophiles).


Again.

Quote:
Lindsay Ashford, in his Wikipedia article on paedophilia, linked to the Lanning report and said:

most perpetrators of it [child sex abuse] are in fact not primarily interested in children.[28]

Lanning said p. 70

They [pedophiles] believe what they want to believe.

Baldur said

Everyone believes what they want to believe. Some have evidence for it.

Indeed. That would be me.

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On the little girl lover forum, infinity said

Most of the people who sexually abuse kids are not peds, nor do they even have ANY sexual attraction to kids.

Lanning said p. 47

The majority of offenders who simultaneously sexually victimize multiple children are acquaintance child molesters, and most acquaintance child molesters who victimize multiple children are preferential sex offenders.

Baldur said

There is no conflict. Most child molestors are situational offenders who only offend against one child at a time. It is not surprising that the small minority who break the law with more than one child simultaneously are actually attracted to children. These are two separate groups, as the descriptions should make abundantly clear.

Once again, you are demonstrating a lack of understanding. What Lanning said is that most molesters are preferential (paedophiles) and that these same paedophiles are the ones molesting more than one child at a time.

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ILGO said it has been repeated over and over again that 70-90% of children who were abused were so done by family or other adult known to themselves and their parents.

He even shows a graph and a link to it. He's attempting to deceive you. The graph is concerning child neglect. Of COURSE it's going to be 90% parents.......DUH
What he doesn't link to within the same study is the graph which shows that of all child sex abuse cases only 2.6% are committed by parents.
2.6%

Baldur said

I'm not familiar with the link or the study, but besides the fact that child neglect has been proven to be far more damaging than sexual abuse, and besides the fact that ILGO might have mistakenly linked the wrong graph, and besides the fact that numerous sources give the 80-90% figure, there is the simple fact that - once again - Daydreamer of Oz is equivocating. The statistic is that most offenders are family or friends - and Daydreamer only considers parents. The two groups are not the same.

Once again, lack of understanding. There was no 'mistake' here. ILGO deliberately quoted the statistics in a graph representing neglect and applied it to sexual abuse. The intent is clearly decpetion and manipulation. By attempting to shift the focus from my facts on sexual abuse to a different topic entirely (neglect) is yet another tiring attempt by a paedophile to shift blame.

And finally we have

I don't even need to go find my sources (which is handy, considering how sleepy I am at present) when Daydreamer sabotages herself repeatedly like this.

Yes, that's very handy. I dare you to prove me wrong.

Deception

The reference I’ve invariably seen every paedophile on the net refer to is: Lanning, K (2001) Child Molesters: A Behavioral Analysis 3rd edn, National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.

They deliberately mislead and lie by quoting bogus or irrelevant statistics and linking to Lanning’s report. Here are some examples:

I*Love*Green*Olives said

Most (90% to 98%) child molesters are "situational offenders" who
abuse children because of stress or because they need a "power fix".

Lanning said p. 5

Except for child prostitution, most sexual-exploitation-of-children cases in the United States involve acquaintance molesters who rarely use physical force on their victims.

Clayboy said

Most abuse is perpetrated by "situational offenders"; people who are not inherently attracted to children but use them because they see it as a convenient outlet and they are desperate.

Lanning said p. 37

Although a variety of individuals sexually abuse children, preferential-type sex offenders, and especially pedophiles, are the primary acquaintance sexual exploiters of children.

Lestat said

Again, no, that is why child molesters that ARENT attracted to children molest children.

Lanning said p. 39

A high percentage of acquaintance child molesters are preferential sex offenders who have a true sexual preference for children (i.e., pedophiles).

Lindsay Ashford, in his Wikipedia article on paedophilia, linked to the Lanning report and said:

most perpetrators of it [child sex abuse] are in fact not primarily interested in children.[28]

Lanning said p. 70

They [pedophiles] believe what they want to believe.

On the little girl lover forum, infinity said

Most of the people who sexually abuse kids are not peds, nor do they even have ANY sexual attraction to kids.

Lanning said p. 47

The majority of offenders who simultaneously sexually victimize multiple children are acquaintance child molesters, and most acquaintance child molesters who victimize multiple children are preferential sex offenders.

ILGO said it has been repeated over and over again that 70-90% of children who were abused were so done by family or other adult known to themselves and their parents.

He even shows a graph and a link to it. He's attempting to deceive you. The graph is concerning child neglect. Of COURSE it's going to be 90% parents.......DUH
What he doesn't link to within the same study is the table which shows that of all child sex abuse cases only 2.6% are committed by parents.
2.6%

With Lindsay Ashford leading the way, these paedophiles looking to change public opinion, wanting to get the door open just a crack to tolerance of their beliefs, and on their way to the ultimate goal of abolishment of age of consent laws ........are being deceptive. It appears that they've done their homework......you only learn the truth when you read the actual studies themselves. You can't take statistics about child neglect and apply them to sex abuse. And you can't tell a flat out lie about what someone said while linking to them and not be discovered sooner or later.