Prevention 101

It's quite simple really.

Don't do the crime and then you'll have nothing to complain about.

"Online molesters do not appear to be stalking unsuspecting victims but rather continuing to seek youths who are susceptible to seduction"

From: "Online Predators and their Victims"

How many people remember the days of Rookiee? He explained best how it all works. How he and his pedo pals didn't lie about what they were, how old they were, or what they were after. The other pedofreaks explain which victims they target. The importance of this study is that it confirmed what we already knew and that many people who don't understand what the dregs of society are up to don't..... The stereotypical image of an internet predator doesn't fit with reality. Take a look here if you have any doubts about that. In fact.....this is what the study said:

“Most Internet-initiated sex crimes involve adult men who are open about their interest in sex,” Wolak adds. “The offenders use instant messages, e-mail and chat rooms to meet and develop intimate relationships with their victims. In most of the cases, the victims are aware that they are talking online with adults.”

and

"most online sex offenders are adults who target teens and seduce victims into sexual relationships. They take time to develop the trust and confidence of victims, so that the youth see these relationships as romances or sexual adventures. The youth most vulnerable to online sex offenders have histories of sexual or physical abuse, family problems, and tendencies to take risks both on- and offline, the researchers say."

We talked about how they choose their victims here

The paedophiles themselves tell us that they specifically target and prey upon disadvantaged families.

Bill Evans explains:

How many times have you seen posters here talk about having y/fs from happy, loving homes? Those boys don't need to turn to someone outside the family for support. I have had a couple of y/fs from those sort of homes, but we never had the kind of close friendship I usually develop with kids from dysfunctional familes.

The kids from good homes are just along for the fun, but kids from dysfunctional homes, or no home, want a whole lot more...

Or as Descartes put it:

BLs who have no criminal record can work with boys, but probably not the boys that they would dream of working with. The BLs who have boy-filled lives aren't taking a bunch of adorable boys on fun camping trips in the woods.

They are working with boys who are extremely poor, who have serious physical and/or emotional problems and who are far from being the object of most BLs' fantasies.

Exploiting a Minor is a Major Offense Project Safe Childhood

Will he sing?

Harold Spurling aka Aztram who was charged with more than 60 sex-related crimes, including 15 counts of first-degree sexual assault has been offered a plea deal!

Jeffrey Brisson aka The Night Raven charged with more than 140 sex-related charges, including 38 counts of first-degree sexual assault was not!

Together the two were charged with assaulting at least 11 children, ages 3 months to 14 years old and possessing the equivalent of 42 80-gigabyte computers filled with child pornography.....including their own homemade videos of themselves having sex with children - over the course of years and years and years.

I wonder what the terms of Harold's deal were? They haven't been released yet. He has until January 28 to decide. Now personally I believe the only choice he should be allowed is between methods of execution. But I'm not the one offering a deal so HEY, at the very least I'll just bet he's asked to sing a song, don't you?

I just wonder how much information he's got. I just wonder how many people could go down over this. I just wonder how much information was stored in those computers of theirs.

Pedophiles don't exactly have childrens interests at heart. Otherwise I would imagine someone who just loved children would be grateful to Wikisposure. However, it's just business as usual. They'll post the news article on BoyChat, but won't allow them to say that Harold Spurling was one of their most respected pedo-members Aztram. Perhaps some of them are worried about the secrets he can tell. If so they'll surely not say it, instead we just hear the usual mumbo-jumbo distorted crap -- most of it sounds like it could have come right out of Sosen. Or a certain little podcast or two.

Zlurker, visiting from GirlChat. Who does this remind you of? The belief that the government has no right to tell parents they can't give permission for their children to have sex?

But, again, infants and toddlers are incapable of giving consent.

Though I am not very interested in infants, I dispute that. It is true for some "activities", but not for all "activities". I would also add that for some "activities", the parent's consent on behalf of the infant or toddler should be enough.

Toothless Bill Evans

the vast majority of cops are lying, bullying cunts who have no hesitation in "creating" their own evidence if they want to "get" someone.

The Dadbeater

They have no evidence against Spurling other than the statement of a 14 year old boy.

The raid was incited by extremist vigilantes who have a history of entrapment, deceit and potential fraud. The question is not whether the alleged acts are ethical. The question is whether they ever occurred.

Icarus

We all have our private lives, but I hope this guy "Spurling" had the sense not to show his face on those videos if it was indeed him... I'm sure he's a really good guy.

slvrspun

I remember reading previously about this very suspiciously organised case and recall that an anonymous informant was mentioned, which could very well turn out to be bogus and could fatally damage the prosecution case against them. That would be very interesting indeed.

mrb

The law is not on your side in the United States, and it takes millions of dollars to even try to make it apply fairly to you.

Whatever. Fuck the U.S.A.

As an aside, I just had the most boy-filled week I can ever remember having in all my life this past week. This, after the filth told me I'd never be near a child again for the rest of my life after I was busted. HAHA. Last laugh is on me. Some of them were naked too. hehehe :)

As 2008 winds down I'd like to offer a huge HT to Wikisposure for their role in helping to get these two men off the streets and away from children. Let's have a little reminder here of how this all started over on the old boyloveblog. Pedophiles intentionally antagonizing and drawing attention to themselves. What did he think was going to happen? I'm sure Dylan Thomas, Jim Finn, Aztram et al are very grateful too. So for old times sake and all.......Be careful what you wish for guys.

“I think this hysteria regarding childhood sexuality rests firmly
on a general fear and hatred of sex itself.
Otherwise, why would people think sex isn't for children?”

.........Harold Spurling

The Renaissance Man

NAMBLA Activist "Will Robinson" has insinuated that Jon Schillaci aka Dylan Thomas was a Renaissance Man.

"Maybe the spirit of Leonardo
was in our midst"

Is BoyChat -- with their leader now fallen -- going to idolize him? Make him bigger than life? The God of perversions?

Of course some of them will, others will merely defend him and/or mourn the loss to their community. While others - still feeling the sting of his sometimes vicious words themselves - are turning on him. Some because they viewed him as a "grandiose-megalomaniac" and still others because they fear for their own safety and the possible repercussions to the pedophile community in general. Let's look of some of the reactions.

Nickless:
I see no contradiction whatsoever between having genius and being without conscience. Why is that so hard to imagine? One can be born a sociopath, or one can become a sociopath by having empathy strangled out of your soul.

DT's story and predicament just reaffirms my belief that humans, including extraordinarily talented ones, cannot escape their own programming and predispositions. We are what we are.

Bill Evans:
What they don't realise is that the more they attack us, the more vigorously we will fight back. They may win a few battles, but we will win the war.

Santi:
Dylan, as smart as he is, as so close to the renaisance ideal of the cultivated man he is, seems to be closer to a psychopath than any of us

yoyoboy:
That was pretty fucking cold......I mean what Dylan did to that family. The strength and faith they put into that man to allow him into their home and to give him a second chance to start over. How could he betray them like that? Yeah, a real fucking Da Vinci!

Bill Evans:
I don't know just what degree, if any, of sexual contact was involved in the charges he is now due to answer, but I seriously doubt it involved anything more than some genital rubbing, or that the boy objected. More likely he told his mother about it in the hopes she and his father would do likewise.

Yes, we are fighting a war, but it's not a war to be fought with guns and the like. This war's battlefield is the press and the hearts and minds of thinking people. Lucid and erudite people are precisely what we need to win this war, as we eventually must.

Just like the New Hampshire family who believed him when he said he was reformed? Is THAT the sort of "thinking people" you want to convince? That couple who were so touched by his words, that they gave him the opportunity of a lifetime....for a convicted pedophile anyway. He could continue his education, he could live in comfort...all he had to do was have respect for other people. So while some of you freaks over at BoyChat are saying......well, he'd been in prison for ten years! Well, uh, that's exactly the point! He didn't learn anything from it did he? Let this serve as an example for all future "thinking people", when a pedophile tries to manipulate you, deceive you, groom you and convince you they're reformed........Remember Dylan Thomas!

So, no, you aren't fighting a war with the hearts and minds of 'thinking' people. You see Bill Evans, we're ALL thinking people. And just like Dylan Thomas......you are not special. You don't have some profound knowledge about children or the ways of the world that makes you unique and the rest of the world 'ignorant' 'bigoted' 'unenlightened' or any other word you choose to use. You Bill Evans aren't special. But just like your fallen hero you think you are. And that is where you've made your first mistake.

Alive:
I have seen him say things to people who turn to this board looking for help and in a state of emotional crisis only to face his unsympathetic and conceited "holier than thou" face.

Dylan Thomas is a sociopath who is genuinely incapable of giving a fuck about ANYBODY but himself. He can rot in fucking hell for all I care.

Lupie:
Perhaps he was enough of a smooth talker to gain the respect of posters like yourself. I could see through him, but I really didn't give a shit. People like him dig their own graves, and I don't find it sad that he was caught.

Tangie:
So with all due respect for his erudition and skill at doing the webmaster's job, I can't say that I've been impressed by what I've heard of his real life.....the impression I've had for quite a long time now is that he's someone best known at a long arm's length.

Santi:
This is the second time we have as Webmaster somebody with a dangerous reality and pervasive mental problems. We had a murderer once, and we just had this grandiose-megalomaniac recently. The next Webmaster needs to be bullet proof. The damage this arrest will do to the public image of "the cause" is way deeper than Santi's rants

Bill Evans:
Whoever puts their hand up to take over from him needs to be aware that they are painting a very large and bright target on their back. If he has been publicly outed, all the more so.

Santi:
Identifying with Dylan will not help us, man.....What we need is to find, in our kind, somebody that can be emulated. He doesn't need to be a saint and not a peace promoter. He needs to love and understood war.

I suppose you'll have to have a new Webmaster won't you? Let us for a moment remember what Damien Cole once said:

I've had people on the show who have criminal backgrounds. Big fucking deal. I know they're good people and could give a shit about what the state claims is criminal. Yes, they've had sex with minors and/or were accused of solicitation. They've done time for it. They're on their corresponding Sex Offender Registries. They're LIVING the life that we fear. They're a living testiment to what we as a community are attempting to steer away from. They have lived the life they wanted, suffered for it, and are now here to preach out. Why on earth would we want to bar them from doing so?

There ain't no way we can (or should) wash our hands of "these people". These people are ourselves.

Indeed. Let's see what The Renaissance Man would recommend.

If you cannot take responsibility for the results your actions bring about in your own community, then you certainly have no business taking responsibility for encouraging "public accountability" for people outside that community.

The fundamental difference between us is this: I do take responsibility for my influence on this community and you dismiss the potential of that influence as invalid and irrelevant. I'll make you a deal. I won't be upset if one day you get to come back to me and say, "I told you so."

On Remorse

As far as responsibility... well, I feel responsibility for the things which are properly my responsibility. I don't take responsibility for the actions of others; that's a level of hubris I don't possess. As arrogant as I am, I'm not near arrogant enough to believe that I'm the only one whose decisions matter. As far as remorse, absolutely not. Let the Crossroads trolls take clear and precise notes here:
I am utterly without remorse.

On being a criminal

The fact is, it doesn't matter a bit if our spokespeople are squeaky clean. since we don't want our spokesmen being arrested for things they will do, better that those bonafides come from something that he's already done, and already paid the price for.

So I wouldn't support a "no convicts" clause on any activist organization's charter for the simple reasons that my own analysis indicates that first, it would not be an effective tactic in any event, and second, that it would be an unjust act of discrimation within our own community.

On adoration

I gave up on the popularity game a long time ago. I've already proven to my own satisfaction that I can be universally adored if I want to. I've been there and done that. The price is too high. What people primarily love is themselves, and so to be loved, I must become more like them. I won't. I will be me, and I'm loved by the people that matter to me; everyone else is noise

On Being Special

We build our own little walls not to keep us in, but rather, to keep those fears of our own horribleness out. I suppose if you build a cage high enough, you can convince yourself it’s a pedastle.

I live my life, as I see fit. If my decisions are to the liking of the codifying crowd, more power to ’em. If not, tough. I’m an individual, and so are all the boys I love, and we’ll deal with each other on those terms

And so once again, I’m special because I have boys in my life. And once again, I resist being special

On supporting criminals

As far as I'm concerned, if you go to prison for something involving a boy (or a photo of a boy, or a movie of a boy, or whatever), you're not a "fallen boylover." You are a hero boylover. You did it. You've been there, you've done that

On Doom

These words--"I'm not doing anything illegal"--are portents of doom. When I hear a boylover say it, I almost immediately begin to make plans for his eventual disappearance. This wins my award for the Number One Deadliest Boylover Belief. Let's just say that if you think you're safe because you're not breaking the law, you are absolutely, completely, unequivocally the worst kind of wrong

On Destiny

Destiny? I had my destiny. I had my whole life wrapped up
in my destiny. My reason for existing. But, I suppose,
it wasn't mine. I blew it. And it's over.

"Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

You know, he never did say what to do once the light was gone

On Escape

I left everything. My house, my job, my furniture, my friends, my bank account... everything. No forwarding address. No one knows where I am. Once I left, there was no way for anyone to trace me. I have ceased to exist. Maybe I didn't die, but I am no more.

Visit WIKISPOSURE for more details about Jon Savarino Schillaci

A Damn Thing

God grant me the serenity

to accept the things

I cannot change,

courage

to change the things I can,

and the wisdom

to know the difference.

We think of those powerful words as "belonging" to 12-step programs, but those came after this was written, and these words actually speak to everyone, no matter your beliefs or your troubles. Let's see how they apply to us.

We frequently see activists...those out trying to create change of some sort make some very similar statements.

From the pedophile activists....the now infamous Rob

You will never silence Us. We will fight for our Rights and there is Not a damn thing that you can do about It !

Michael Gregg aka Zman - RSO Activist

The laws don't work. When will people ever realize no matter how tough on crime, all the zero tolerance, all the registries in the world will not prevent a murder from murdering, a thief from stealing, a dealer from dealing, a user from using, a rapist from raping....

Bill Evans

They can't change a damn thing. Paedophilia has existed since the beginning of time and will exist until the end of time. It's part of the mechanism for the survival of the species.

jd420 - self-described "infantfucker"

Their 'power' couldn't stop a damn thing... and an entire generation has grown up in a paederotically-integrated (or actually, baby-boy-assfucking) world.

Derek Logue - RSO Activist

When it comes down to it, these invasive gestapo laws won't stop the rapes, the molestations, and so forth, but only serves to embitter a specific populace which can only serves to further promote this cause

These are completely false statements. Yes there have been pedofreaks as far back as we know of, that doesn't mean we should approve of it and accept it. Nor does it mean that we won't find a cure for it. Lots of research is being done in this area, a lot of new discoveries have been made that at first glance may not appear to be significant, yet I believe they will add up to a cure for this horrible affliction and most likely during our lifetime.

So no, in the first instance we cannot do anything about the fact that pedophiles exist, not us, not you and I. But someone can. In the meantime we can have the courage to confront the issue, the pedophile activism currently underway, the active child predators, we can do something about those things. And we have the wisdom to know the difference between those things as well.

Will there always be crime? Of course there will, that is a given. But we don't sit back and say 'oh well' someone will always do it so it's pointless to make something illegal or to insist on consequences. We can have the courage to change their activism, to make it more honest. We can leave them no out. We can have the courage to stand up for children and do the right thing, we also have the wisdom to know the difference between those things.

So when Dylan Thomas, the Webmaster of BoyChat and the author of the No More Victims Act of 2007 says something like this

The fact of the matter is, we hold all the cards. We (speaking on the broad scale) have sex with their children. And when they arrest us and put us in jail, a zillion more of us are still having sex with their children. And when they get us in therapy and "cure" us and teach us how not to "offend," a zillion more of us still slip through the cracks and still have sex with their children.

And there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

For every pedophile they arrest and put in jail, ten more are fucking their children.

Or when WP says

I've said this a million times, Dylan and I always get slammed for it. No one wants to admit the fact that the idea of the "celibate paedophile" is a kite that jut won't fly because it implies we are sexless or without a sex drive something that isn't real. It also tells the world you're a lying idiot if you actually expect them to buy that horse shit, worse still, schizophrenic if you actually believe it yourself.

Or when Jason says

Masturbation has no known harmful effects on an otherwise healthy child. Even if a child were forcibly masturbated against his/her will, any harm would be minimal and quickly overcome if parents and the law took a sensible attitude toward the "assault"

We can only shake our heads in consternation at the sheer lunacy of these people. It's quite silly of them actually as everyone can clearly see that we CAN do something, we WILL do something and we ARE doing something.

Their responses to our critiques thus far have been anything from complete silence, to the standard pedofreak LAME response

I just LOVE children, why I'd never hurt children

to the pathological

"C" downloads child porn and picks up minors on the net please report this dangerous woman who is also aka Stitches

to the bizarre

Jesus was a pedophile although his actions were not illegal at the time. Laws have changed but it is not likely that God has changed what He considers to be a sin. He got it right the first time.

to the grotesque

Jessica was not tortured and her death comes across more as an assisted suicide than a murder.

to the frustrated

If any anti even comes with in spitting distance of me, they will be dead. They will no longer live. I will fucking kill them. So if they want to stay alive they can leave me alone.

The cognitively distorted

I don't advocate wanton violence. I don't believe in collateral damage. But I'm a firm believer in self-defense, and also a firm believer that the best defense against an irrational enemy is to put him down permanently.

The demented

The 'life' of 77Stitches_in_the_cunt. I don't remember where I heard that these females could be healed only with a good, extremely strong kick at the snatch.

And the really, really, really stupid

The reason why AZ and PJ won't post THEIR addresses or show their faces is because they'd have a big-rig through their homes the next day. There are plenty of truckers who'd love to tie those guys on both ends to the DOT bumpers and hit 10th gear. And nobody would ever find them again.

These are all excellent responses. Reactions such as these merely prove they are hysterical nut cases with no clear rebuttal to what we actually said that set them off to begin with. In fact, most times they don't even know or understand what it was we said. They read what they 'think' it says which sometimes leads them to make serious mistakes in their "knee jerk reactions".

When people like this make these outrageous remarks, radical attempts to change society or laws that are absolutely detrimental to children's safety I, for one, will be talking about it. I'll inform everyone I possibly can, I'll shout it from the rooftops if I have to. I WILL be heard, and I'll get others to help spread the message.....far and wide.

And there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

No more Pedos Act of 2008

We wrote about Allan Doerner aka "Hangtwenty", a 75 year old Karaoke singer from West Palm Beach, Florida and long time member of BoyChat HERE

We just didn't realize the story would be such a hit with the pedohead community. I found their reaction rather interesting.

Allan showed up on BoyChat over the weekend to claim

"I have been attacked viciously and maliciously on Absolute Zero's blog"

Seemingly oblivious to his Wikisposure page.

Allan says:

"It is quite difficult to sue these kinds of slanderous statements because you have to 'prove' they are false, something that is near impossible to do"

Yes indeed. Especially difficult to prove they're libelous when we can prove they're true. I was wondering if he thought his quotes we shared of him confessing to molesting children were what he considered libel or was it the statements about his eccentricity? Guess we'll never know. Allan has announced his departure from BoyChat.

"I shall not bow down to this assault! I shall continue doing and being who I am! Writing letters to other tenants in my apartment building has not altered anything!

I hope I can stand as a beacon of light to all of you, young as well as old, that life can go on as is, and when shit is flung at you, you just take a shower and you continue on!"

Now let's look at how the rest of the pedoheads reacted

Nickless

"I hope that if the opportunity ever presents itself, I will be able to avenge your pain by inflicting the greatest horror on those who target innocent boylovers like you and me"

Xanadu

"If any anti even comes with in spitting distance of me, they will be dead. They will no longer live. I will fucking kill them. So if they want to stay alive they can leave me alone.

That's not a threat. It's a promise."

Rahiim

"When push comes to shove, when its me and/or mine or one of them? They're suddenly gonna get a very acute case of lead poisoning."

Bill Evans

"The antis are like rabid dogs.
There is only one way to stop them spreading the infection."

Santi

"Their nature is cowardice, and they are completely worthless in any sense. Not even something slightly positive can be yield from these pests. They were born to be terminated."

Santi

"Actually sometimes I think of a MAA with, lets say, cancer, AIDS or anything similar, waiting patiently for the "To Catch a Predator" lures, and going to the decoy's house packed with ammo or, even better, extremely powerful explosives, killing everybody there.

That would give the precise message our current status needs. And, hopefully, it will trigger thousands of copycat incidents.

Killing your enemies is great, but permanently maiming them is astonishing, as you know that their suffering will last up to the moment they decide to end their pain with suicide, something that maggot they call god forbids them."

Dylan

"I don't advocate wanton violence. I don't believe in collateral damage. But I'm a firm believer in self-defense, and also a firm believer that the best defense against an irrational enemy is to put him down permanently."

What do you know? I finally agree with Dylan on something. He's irrational. He's the enemy. He needs to be put down permanently. Let's propose some new legislation based on that! We could call it the "No more Pedos Act of 2008"

Hangtwenty

"I do not know what the future holds for me. Perhaps there will be some problems. Perhaps someone will physically attack me. After all, I am out late at night, every night. But, I now carry a lethal, and legal, weapon! Actually, three weapons!

Steel darts! I play darts alot, so if I ever get attacked in some parking lot, I shall use those darts to my advantage. I shall carry them in my hand!"

No worries Allan.

I have my handy-dandy Anti-Shield,

guaranteed impervious to pedo-darts.

And remember this:

The only violence that has been threatened has been by pedophiles. We operate within the law.

A Profile of Pedophilia Part 3

We previously talked about the Mayo Clinic report on pedophilia Part 1 and Part 2. Continuing on now we'll talk about how pedophiles locate their victims. But first we should probably ask just how widespread is the problem anyway? Pedophiles, after all, are known for their continued insistence that child advocates are hysterical lunatics.

Two Canadian studies found that 32% of women and 15.6% of men had experienced "Unwanted sexual contact" before the age of 17 years.

That's roughly 1 out of 3 females, and 1 out of 6 males. I wouldn't call our reaction hysterical would you? So where and how do they "gain access to children"? Per this report:

Pedophiles often intentionally try to place themselves in a position where they can meet children and have the opportunity to interact with children in an unsupervised way, such as when babysitting, doing volunteer work, doing hobbies, or coaching sports.

Pedophiles usually obtain access to children through means of persuasion, friendship, and behavior designed to gain the trust of the child and parent.

The report goes on to outline the characteristics of children and their families.

Parents of children who had been abused by pedophiles had notable characteristics, such as a lower overall education and a higher rate of absenteeism from home. The mothers of abused children had less education than control group mothers and were more likely to be single parents. The fathers tended to be of lower socioeconomic and educational levels than controls.

Descartes tells us the secret to finding boys if you're a pedophile. He's a little worried about violating the "unwritten BL code" but feels that it's not fair to other pedophiles not to know how to find victims. The key, he says, is not to go after the most attractive, the most well-adjusted, the happiest boys. No, the pedo must lower his standards and be willing to take boys less attractive, poorer and with physical and/or emotional handicaps. THEN he can get all the boys he wants. The Mayo Reports says:

The pedophiles stated they would choose vulnerable individuals (eg, children living in ia divorced home, emotionally needy or unhappy children) and/or children who were receptive to their advances, even if that child did not meet the pedophile's usual physical pattern of attraction

Bill Evans says:

Whatever made you think it was otherwise? How many times have you seen posters here talk about having y/fs from happy, loving homes? Those boys don't need to turn to someone outside the family for support. I have had a couple of y/fs from those sort of homes, but we never had the kind of close friendship I usually develop with kids from dysfunctional familes.

The kids from good homes are just along for the fun, but kids from dysfunctional homes, or no home, want a whole lot more...

Boys don't want to be with Bill Evans or other pedophiles simply because it's "Normal and natural and something that they NEED and want" No according to Bill, the only boys who would be interested in being with a pedohead are those who are disadvantaged and needy in some way. He said it himself!!

Thunderchild says:

I've been working with boys since not long after I got out of prison. I've had some failures, but I've had many more successes.

There's no gaurded secret to spending time with boys.

I've been convicted more than once for BL stuff and even today I spent some time with a boy under the AOC

Meeting boys is easy

Vespucci:

Buy a basketball and shoot hoops every day at the local poor people park

been there done that:

In most cases the parents are too busy trying to make ends meet to devote time to their kids. The politically incorrect terms for some of these families is "white trash"

UKBoy:

I've found that if you get a really fancy car....and live in a family neighborhood, then boys will eventually come when they see you washing or fiddling with it. Nothing attracts a boy more than hanging out with a man doing mans stuff

Silvrspun: Just crawls through little boys windows and takes what he wants.

Cheshir Cat:

...I lurk around schools. Most of the LGs I know, I met through one of the following ways:
*Schoolmates of my daughter
*Friends' daughters and young cousins/sisters
*Roleplayers
*Friends of the above categories.

Principia Mathematica

I am regularly stared at by LGs and occasionally jump on the webcam and hook up with kids....... What's most important is to be, and act, more like a member of their peer group than just another adult

Enigma:

My heart aches. I feel weak. I want, so badly.....How can I not be obsessed? Nothing else is important in life. Little girls are my heroin, and I am an addict

While these guys are making these statements above, they are claiming no relationship with child molesters. Whenever a pedophile is arrested they rush to his defense saying things like: "How sad that one is persecuted for a consensual act of love" Or, in a particularly bad case such as Jessica Lunsford their arguments quickly switch to "He's not even a pedophile! No! He's a child molester!" As if there were a difference.

And how would you explain THIS:
Wayne Bleyle a respiratory therapist working at a long term care facility for seriously ill children....convicted of molesting brain-damaged, comatose boys and girls, taking cell-phone photos of himself in the act and posting them on the internet. When his home computers were seized tens of thousands of graphic images of children, some engaged in sex acts with adult males were discovered. When Bleyle was asked how many children he had molested he stated calmly "How many snowflakes are out there?" Bleyle stated that he selected children based on their inability to speak because if they couldn't talk, they couldn't tell anybody they had been attacked. Included in his victims were a 2 year old girl and a boy who was still in diapers. He received 45 years in prison based upon a plea agreement.

Bleyle is a pedophile.

And how do we explain only one month later the arrest of Christopher Alan Irvin for the exact same thing......at the exact same hospital?

An ICU nurse Irvin confessed to the molestation of a patient....a comatose 4 year old girl......twice. His home computers containing hundreds of child porn images including videos and his hand-written journals with entries like:

"I want to lay down at night & feel love & the presence of a (loved, comforted) little girl...."

"This is killing me. The little girl downstairs is playing and I want to go play with her, ahhhh!!!"

"Oh God, I've strayed"

"I easily and often fall in love with young children"

"I suffer because I crave this and try to satisfy it"

He received 14 years in prison under a plea agreement.

Irvin is a pedophile.

In these instances here we have two men both abusing brain injured children incapable of saying yes or NO. Incapable of asking for help. They were trapped within their little damaged bodies in their little beds....at the mercy of monsters and like all predatory creatures these men took what they wanted.

It should come as no surprise to us that BoyChatters have previously discussed this very thing. Babylove asked the question:

"Would it be okay to have consensual sex with a mentally handicapped person? A mentally handicapped person may have the intellectual capacity of a 3 yr old"

floating point:

If it is consensual, why not?

SilVered:

The only reason it is now dangerous is because of the hysteria. As Hyacinth and other boylovers have expressed from their very, very past experiences when sex was not as guarded, it was a much simpler decision with no consequences......I don't believe in any AOC, I believe in BOUNDARIES

foo:

While this may come as a surprise to you, not much intellect is required for sex.

Silent Sufferer:

What does IQ have to do with having sex?

JD420:

We own the globe

SG:

Nobody here condones rape, and those of us who would engage in sexual behavior with children despite the possible legal ramifications would certainly want to obtain a higher level of consent than just a lack of complaint.

dannywyatt:

Let nature work naturally; that's why children are able to reproduce.

And let us not forget 28:

Erotic encounters, involving no penetration, should be at worst minor annoyances.

Last but certainly not least we should consider MrDOB:

We are victims too.....We come from all walks of life, races, religions, ages, socio-economic brackets and what-have-you. And, in many cases, can go through our whole life without ever harming a child.

Or Lindsay Ashford who believes it's perfectly acceptable to inflict sexual contact upon a 6 month old....who he believes can consent to sexual activity with a 30, 40, 50 yr old man? I suppose Lindsay would approve of Bleyle and Irvin's behavior. After all those assaulted children weren't really harmed were they? Compared to the pleasure it brought to the pervert? How about the child porn sting last fall. Horrible images, children bound and raped. Children so young they had pacifiers in their mouths. "d" says:

So, instead of saying "ohmygawdtheyareabusinginfants thebastards!" the police and news should be saying "thank goodness these kids won't remember what happened."

What all of this means is that these men are all the same. Pedophiles are child molesters. Child molesters are pedophiles. They all think the same way, they operate the same way, and they talk the same way. They are animals, rabid and out of control. Children are mere objects to them. Lindsay said :

the pictures are meant to show that we GLs see girls as objects of beauty, not merely as sexual objects

Like I said, children are mere objects to pedophiles. When Lindsay was asked what attracted him to little girls he said:

There's just this way that they walk, all carefree and all that. And the way that they smell, and their bodies are ever so .... ripe.....

Pedophiles try to explain all of this away with their rationalizations, justifications and lies. Apparently in their distorted thinking these things make sense to them. If not for the fact that they harm children, one could almost feel sorry for them. They are, after all, quite pathetic subhuman creatures. The problem however is that that they are EVIL pathetic creatures and therefore beneath contempt. Their excuses and attempts to always misplace blame is hard for us to understand and comprehend. After all, we force kids to eat properly.....so what do we know?

It's like when you feed a child vegetables at a young age, that child might not be able to consent to vegetables until 3 or 4 when they say "I don't like vegetables" but you still feed it to them as babies. It doesn't create psychological trauma in their future when you fed them vegetables at that age. Sex is something I think a child needs to experience and learn about as they progressively grow to maturity

Who are these men?

What do the following men have in common?

• Lindsay Ashford
• Tom O'Carroll
• Charles Rust-Tierny
• John Murray Melanson
• Damien Cole

Along with all the visitors we get here at this blog who arrive here under the most sickening of search terms.

• 10 year old boys pedo pictures
• cp innocent youth porn
• pedofilia photos kids
• pedofilia videos
• pedo vaginal penetration 3 year old
• child molesting pics
• pedofilia pics
• boylove videos
• pedofilia free video
• little pedo child pics
  
• young boys raped by pedophiles pics

Hey, I don't make this stuff up folks. Those are from just the last few hours and doesn't take into account all the pedo boy, pedo girl, pedo chat, pedo blog, pedophile, pedosexual pedo pedo pedo pedo until I could just GAG. But what do they have in common with the above and with these guys who have made these statements....

Drifter:

"I would definitely have sex with any little girl I had a chance with, but would not rape one. I guess there really are those that want to admire but would never touch. Thats not me man, I will touch and touch and touch!!!!"

Taf-Kat:

"piled high, were the many CD's filled to bursting with my precious pictures, tens of thousands of them, all kinds, from innocent, fully clothed girls, through posed nudity, to the hardest cp you can imagine"

Camper:

"Hmmm....I generally find boys start 'turning my eye' at about age five"

Our desire for porn makes us use bad judgement sometimes

Olive freak:

"Having discovered a community of people who understand you, share those same likes and dislikes, and managed to live life without rape or molesting"

Viamund:

"The internet is a tool that is meant to be used for all manner of things. Personally I use it for research, activism, gaming and certainly online dating. I date boys aged 14 - 18 and I have met all my lovers over the past 6 years exclusively through internet dating sites"

Daniel:

"I am sexually attracted to children, but I am not a pedophile"

What can you say about men like this? Men like Daniel who wrote a complete guide to debate for pedophiles....taking them step by step through the process of proving that pedophiles are normal and child prostitution and child pornography should not only be tolerated and accepted but legalized! What can you possibly say? I can just imagine him trying to publish it.... Perhaps he could call it Pedo-Logic for Dummies?

What can you say about Camper who not only attempted to deceive society in general but actually pulled it off with the pedophile community. What can you say when the co-owner of BoyChat...the largest message board for boylover pedophiles is running from law enforcement for not only child pornography but the rape of a 5 year old boy? John Murray Melanson. Remember that name, you'll be hearing it again.

What can you say about Charles Rust-Tierney, former president of the Virginia chapter of the ACLU...with a history of attempting to legalize child pornography and allow access to it in public libraries, was anyone actually surprised? Were they surprised to hear that it wasn't lovely images of 'child models' but videos of young girls bound while being raped with screams coming from their mouths?

What can you possibly say about Tom O'Caroll that hasn't already been said? Repeated prison sentences for his deviant acts, his history with NAMBLA and horrendous writings in support of child molestation.

Lindsay Ashford, the sneaking cowardly webhost who distorts scientific studies by mixing the statistics to fit his agenda. Who maintains a website all pink and sugary to 'educate young girls' . Lindsay, of which I have seen scores of pedophiles say they were confused, they were looking for information and then they found Lindsay and all of a sudden they knew there was nothing wrong with them.........they had come home! Lindsay who lies about child pornography. Lindsay who lies about statistics. Lindsay who lies to his pedo pals, and to society. Lindsay who runs and hides from country to country.........all for his sexual desire of young girls. He denies any wrong-doing, but he can't very well say otherwise, can he?

What can you say about Damien Cole aka Rookieeee of the decimated Pedologues. Oh, well I think ILGO said it best when he whined about Rookiee losing his pedo terrorism hierarchy on the internet. "Many times I found myself disagreeing....but just as many times more I've nodded my head enthusiastically and said to myself 'Yes, that's exactly how it is!'"

Well, yes we see that Olive. That's part of the reason why Rookieeeee was dangerous, he encouraged, he reinforced and he helped you all maintain your cognitive distortions. If you listen to his pedologues, you also know that practically every guest he ever had either went on to a pedophile related criminal conviction or else they already had one under their belt. They were just one of the many who joined in when the pedo heads began to nod in unison. You should know, you were one of them....even as you claimed to NOT sexually offend against children ALL BECAUSE OF A MESSAGE BOARD! Oh Dear! You need a message board to keep you from raping babies Olive freak? Is that what your prior conviction was for? Oh, never mind, you took the plea.

And what do you say about Seamus? The GirlChat resident of how-to-hide-child-porn without giving your mother a stroke infamy...

"Now, a stranger just might stumble across the correct 75-character password which has been encryped by BestCrypt with a 448-bit algorithm, but not easily. Word on the street is that he will need every computer on Earth tied together, for longer than the age of the universe, to crack it."

What have you got to hide Seamus?

"BestCrypt has a system wherein you can hide a container within a container; nobody but you knows if there is a hidden container.

Create a container and fill it with borderline stuff: girls who have just turned legal age, for example.
Hide your sensitive files in another container which is hidden inside of that one.

If the authorities ask for a password, give them the password to the innocuous container; there is no way for them to know if that is all there is.

I've been in and out of the UK frequently since that law was enacted; no problems"

Well. Well.
What could we say about Jason? You know Jason Masters the 'fiction' writer? We could say he likes girls....and little boys too. We could say he believes he's a girl trapped in a man's body. We could say he has bondage fantasies about tying up toddlers, or talk about his legal problems.

We could mention that it was reported in Relapse prevention with Sex Offenders

"the longer sexual fantasies are maintained and elaborated on, the greater the chance that the behavior will be acted out in real life"

"the more individuals engage in fantasy, the more motivating and more detailed the rehearsal may become, and the more able the individuals are to convince themselves to act out the behaviour in real life"

But I think we all already understand that.

We could talk about Infinity and his Child Porn problem. But then, they all have a bit of a problem with Kiddie Porn of one sort or another, don't they? We could talk about Dylan Thomas and his pro-child prostitution and child porn stand, or Robert Vann Smith aka Ghostwriters Mexican bust when he thought he'd just pass over the border and play with a boy or two for the weekend, or how about Lux? or Princesplaff? or Jeffrey W. Russell aka Jeffrey Gold and Matthew Fox of Sure Quality Radio sitting in custody awaiting trial for...oh what was it now? Sexual offenses against children? Distributing obscene material to a minor? What if we talked about Paul Edward Vose aka Slvrspun and the boy he terrorized....or his detailed instructions for hiding child porn? Or how about Bill Evans and his exploitation of an indigenous population of people....all for his sexual desires.

We could talk about their pedo distortions and how they claim they would never no never harm a child. "It was consensual!" Or another favorite they use "That child was only harmed because society told him he was!" We could go on and on and on and on but there's one question that begs to be answered.

What do these men have in common with the Lindsay Ashfords and the Rust-Tierney's of this world. Why, it's very simple.

They are all real men!

These men and others like them loudly and boldly proclaim that they are pedophiles. They inflict themselves upon society, upon our children! They demand to be accepted! They make all kinds of foolish demands actually, but one thing is for sure, they are out there with one purpose in mind......sexual gratification through the use of children.

So if you ever have cause to doubt, just remember that they LIE as a matter of course. They have reason to. Who are these men?

They are child predators and they are real. They are not just words on a computer screen, a nickname or a sigpic. They are child predators, whether they call themselves a Girl Lover, a Boy Lover, a Child Lover, a Pedophile, Pedosexual or MAA. These things they do are happening everyday and we need everyone working together, united, to deny them that ability There can be Absolute Zero Tolerance for those who prey on children and use them for selfish, sexual motives.

HT to Jacey for the awesome graphics!

A Question For Mr. W.J. Evans of Boychat

Hey Bill I've got one question for you:

WHAT THE HELL DOES YOUR FAMILY THINK YOU DID TO YOUR DOG???

Bitch Slappin'

Nickless from BoyChat has a new plan for Pedophile Activism.

Now we've all seen their plans come and go. It always works the same no matter what type of plan it is.

It never fails. Never never never

Yes, it's always the same........A 'new' plan is proposed and discussion commences.

Suggestions for improvement are offered and criticism supplied. Somewhere along the way a flame war begins and the conversation diverges into a little side-bar discussion. Until finally one of them gets banned....for a day, or a week and in some cases a lifetime.

Awww

But then they kiss and make up and return to their game of Puff-Up-The-PedoHead.

You can practically watch them change before your very eyes, each of them feeding off each other in a virtual Pedo-frenzy as visions of little girls and boys dance in their heads....until at last.........flourishing in this gang fantasy, a gangster's paradise you might say.......one mighty pedohead fully puffed-up ........grown large and ripe with pedophilic expectation and visions of consequence-free baby rape loudly proclaims:

Hey! It's going to happen! Let's not make our demands merely 'acceptance' and 'tolerance' that might give the impression that we're willing to compromise! We need to go all the way with this.........

That's when the Bitch Slap occurs.

A voice, as yet unheard in this discussion, inserts himself into the heat of their pedo passion........quiet, calm, and seemingly all-knowing he simply says:

They all scatter meekly, heads held low and return to their pathetic Girl Moments and Boy Moments, their crying and incessant whining about how 'no one loves a baby raper'.

It never fails. Never never never

Until of course the next plan comes along, which is what we're going to talk about now, because I think Nickless just might be onto something.

His plan first tells us why traditional methods of activism won't work for pedophiles:

1. No empathy exists for pedophiles
2. Required anonymity
3. Lack of unity due to morality disagreements amongst pedos
4. Lack of agenda dependent upon #2
5. Lack of money
   

Oh dear. No one will feel empathy for a group of child molesters who won't admit what they've done is wrong and are actively campaigning to make it legal so they can do it again....and again. The lack of an agenda, the lack of unity should be a sign that even amongst these slime-dwelling perverts there a few who know better!

But on to his new plan. Nickless says pedos should keep quiet about injustices they feel are perpetrated against them........the better to live their lives peacefully... going on about.... doing the things they do. He says that pedos nearing the end of their lives should not go quietly into that good night, they should instead go out with a bang, a big pedo bang. Plan their own deaths, write snail mail letters ahead of time explaining how wrong how very wrong everyone is about pedophiles. So:

• Make your end of life arrangements
• Write pedo terror letters to ensure your survivors suffer a little more
• Choose a target and proceed without cowardice

  "You don't act like cowardly Muslim terrorists who attack markets, malls, schools, etc.; rather you target those gatherings and institutions that are enemies of MAAs. Now I'm not advocating violence against those targets, mind you -- THAT would likely be a violation of Rule #6. I must leave it to each of you to be creative in coming up with a target activity that will get media attention if successful, and the more media attention, the better. Think of your plan as a "major media event".

• Letters should "detail the wrongs and grievances you have suffered as a pedophile, and a list of changes that society should enact to alleviate such suffering for future pedophiles."

So what do the other nodding pedo heads think about it? Let's start with Slvrspun the notorious, calculating green-eyed monster who doesn't understand why society won't let him sodomize little boys and who was convicted of stalking a young boy.

Slvrspun constantly threatens against those he feels wronged him....and even against those that don't know him. Presumably even children.

Yes, Slvrspun also had a little remote-controlled hard drive acid-injection trick planned for when the cops arrive at his door to find out "Just what the hell is he hiding on that computer of his?" Slvrspun had this to say:

my kind of hero would be an openly villainous pedophile who keeps getting away with his illegal actions rather than a suicidal maniac just out to make a splash.

Norbert the Dutch pervert thinks it's a stupid plan, they should all stick to his own plan which includes:

• Legal defense of an adult charged with loving sexual activity with a child
• Public media, such as movies, plays, radio, podcasts, and journalism, that promote children's sexual freedom and loving physical intimacy between adults and children

Bill Evans already known for his violence responds to Norbert:

But I feel that your brand of activism not only isn't helpful, but is in fact, detrimental. It draws attention and therefore reinforces the hysteria.....The hysteria that dogs our heels at this time will only die down after people in general begin to realise that it is an unfounded hysteria

Why does Nickless want to do this anyway?

"In a word? Vengeance."

Honesty:

I intend to control my own destiny, ramdom selection and the angel of death permitting, of course.....Now hugging a ruthless antiped with a belt load of C4 carries a certain preiminent amusement....My own mortality is preplanned, and it involves an adrenalin rush

Flee:

I'm convinced that any form of violence will cause our situation to worsen exponentially.

Steve Diamond:

It is not how you die which defines you...but how you lived.....We may yet get to love another, who we are biologically inclined to love.......The problem is going to have to be solved by strategy, and gaining some level of control, over positions of influence

Oh, I see! He must mean men like Foley

Fetishist attempts the Bitch Slap:

You'll be just another joke, nothing more. After they get through discrediting you, no other "MAA" will dare follow you.

Will Robinson is saddened that it's come down to this:

"I am a living hero"

He did, after all, as an original NAMBLA activist once coordinate the 'Prisoner Pen-Pal' program....you know, so he could do some good for the world -- supporting all those convicted baby rapers. Let's give credit where credit is due.

Nickless:

disrupting an attorney general's speech would be more appropriate than disrupting a school classroom. Suicide can be spectacular or mundane -- spectacular gets media attention. And the reason to get the media attention is to make sure those snail-mail letters get published also, and so people start discussing those ideas.

You are going to die anyway, so why not make such death a positive act of protest rather than merely dying at the whim of fate? Repercussions only fall on the living, not the dead.

If a woman goes into a downward-spiraling fit of hysterics, how do you snap her out of it? That is correct... you slap the bitch in her face!

Society needs bitch-slapping.

Nickless just keeps repeating that the purpose of this is to get people to read pro-pedo propaganda, and he's encouraging his pedo brothers to commit suicide for that reason, vengeance, and assurance that all pedo brothers to come will have what he didn't. I can't for the life of me figure out WHY? Why, Nickless, why? You cry and whine if an Anti says

"Why don't you do the world a favor and just kill yourself?"

We already know what every one of you guys have to say! There's not anything, anything at all that will convince us to give you our children. We understand what it is that you want. And we reject you. Completely. The only thing you're going to get from us is this:

HT to Jacey for the graphics, great job as always!

The Obligation

The shocking death of 6-year-old Christopher Barrios was covered here. The horrific nature of his untimely death has sent many of us into pensive contemplation. Utter devastation is the only way to describe it. We have shed many tears for Christopher and his family. I have shared these emotions with many of you and know the mutual rage we feel against these paedophiles who commit atrocities against our children on a daily basis.

No child should have to suffer or die at the hands of a paedophile the way Christopher did. Christopher's death should serve as the impetus for us to take note of a very important fact:

His death was avoidable.

The Edenfields should never have been close enough to Christopher to make their evil move. Indeed, this article will astound you when you realize just how many people knew how dangerous the Edenfields were…..and yet inexplicably did nothing about it.

Neighbours, landlords, district attorneys and judges just to name a few.

The paedophiles themselves tell us that they specifically target and prey upon disadvantaged families. Bill Evans explains:

How many times have you seen posters here talk about having y/fs from happy, loving homes? Those boys don't need to turn to someone outside the family for support. I have had a couple of y/fs from those sort of homes, but we never had the kind of close friendship I usually develop with kids from dysfunctional familes.

The kids from good homes are just along for the fun, but kids from dysfunctional homes, or no home, want a whole lot more...

Or as Descartes put it:

BLs who have no criminal record can work with boys, but probably not the boys that they would dream of working with. The BLs who have boy-filled lives aren't taking a bunch of adorable boys on fun camping trips in the woods.

They are working with boys who are extremely poor, who have serious physical and/or emotional problems and who are far from being the object of most BLs' fantasies.

Thunderchild details the many places he meets boys...church, bike riding events, model railway, boat and aircraft events, and even children of his customers.

I've been working with boys since not long after I got out of prison. I've had some failures, but I've had many more successes.

There's no gaurded secret to spending time with boys.

I've been convicted more than once for BL stuff and even today I spent some time with a boy under the AOC

Meeting boys is easy.

But even more importantly, they rely on our complacency

We must end this complacency

Most of us look at our own children and know that we would do anything to protect them. But what about the disadvantaged little boy down the street? Or the poor little girl on the other side of town? For that matter what about the children half a world away who live as sex slaves to these paedophiles?

Perhaps your proactive attitude to this problem will save your own child. Perhaps you'll never even know you saved someone. The face you'll never see; the name you'll never know. You're not going to get a thank you….in fact the greatest reward we can possibly ask for is the happy, healthy child unaware and safe from the dangers lurking.

The following is taken from the Preamble to the UN Declaration on the Rights of the Child:

Whereas mankind owes
to the child the best it has to give

Mankind. It does not say relatives or political parties or even religious affiliations. Neither does it say out of the kindness of our hearts.

Mankind owes to the child.

We cannot stop these predators from existing. But we can do everything in our power to stop them from accessing our children or the children across town or the ones on the other side of the world. We need to be vigilant and start delivering to every child what we are obliged to provide for them – a safe place to get off the school bus and play on the swings.

I urge you to join me in making a deep, personal commitment to the protection of all children in our communities….to each day steel your resolve to make your community safe….to not look away

We owe them that much.

BoyChat's Plan

It should come as no surprise to anyone here that pedophiles hate us. That pedophiles want all "antis" out of the way. But doggone it those nitwits even talk about it in public! Oh yeah! They're making plans....

We've already seen Xanadu threaten AZ'ers with his .44 and BillEVans and Dididiot Didaskalos' veiled threats. But now Xanadu is back! He says "I want to HURT the antis, but I'm not sure how". And boy does he get some suggestions and offers for help. There are some real doozies here, folks.

Bill Evans:

The best way is to simply ignore them. 98% of the traffic on their pathetic blogs is from pedos checking to see what they are up to. Frankly, who cares?

I believe Bill Evans cared, until we sent him running back to pedochat. He must try to save face you know.

Slvrspun:

doesn't seem to be much activity lately at the iluv2surf site. Perhaps they started to see the downside of upsetting people like me

People like you? Slvrspun the convicted pedofreak who stalked a little boy and makes occasional threats towards everyone in the justice system. Slvrspun thinks pedos should set loose a 'plague' to kill the antis as a form of terrorism.

JD420:

either they or their employers have a business in a competitive market, for instance... not to mention the time-honored tradition of assasination, which can be pulled off fairly safely and efficiently.

Well, I suppose that's one way. JD encourages taking a deep breath and trying to make the world a better place by reaching out to those less fortunate......and THEN

...and when you have done these things - if you still want to kill people after that, at least you'll be doing it as part of a healthy and balanced life... and that is not at all a bad thing.

Sure, JD, that's not a bad thing at all, as long as you're balancing your violence towards society with your tender mercy for little children. Right.

d says:

The desire to HURT someone for the sake of HURTing them is sadism.

On the other hand, feelings motivated by vengeance are perfectly normal.

Is that right? vengeance/normal. hmm


Kosh:

Homicide is not the solution in promoting an agenda that claims to be about love, consent, and toleration and has as a primary goal to dissolution of link in the public’s mind between pedophilia and psychopathic behavior. Engaging in violence will do nothing but prove to our detractors that we are exactly what they say we are, and will destroy any possibility of sympathy

Kosh tried to calm them down but.....


Santi goes psycho:

Suppose that you know where the Peej homo lives. You go, torch the house, put a machine gun outside and shoot down everything coming from the house in fire, including animals and children. By tomorrow, the news would be "Boylovers kill justice maker Peej homo & family".

I think we have enough strenght in our hands to hold the helm. Besides, crossing the border from north to south is not that difficult

And Fey tries to help clarify:

Are you saying that such an action (killing PeeJ) is a bad thing to be avoided or that we should all say, "To hell with it" kill them and run to Mexico?

Santi replies:

I advice you to start learning Spanish and liking Mexican food

And Tyler tries to fix it by deleting the comments:

Santi, it was pretty clear to me that you were advocating a course of action that is illegal. Fey gave you a chance to make the meaning more clear; you let him know you meant what you said.

Do not advocate illegal acts.

Sorry dude, but I've already got my screenshots.

Let's wind it all up with Vespucci (the man who had never loved a boy before)

"Legitimize Boylove"

Oh yeah right, how could I forget that one eh? They want us to be sure that we understand that the solution to everything is to abolish AOC laws. They even state boldly that they won't molest our children anymore if we'll give them the right to have sex with our children.

Well, hey guys, that's ok, plan your plans, talk your talk. Lots of eyes are on you.

In more ways than one.

What's In A Quote?

Quite a lot, it seems. We have recently come under attack in this post at BoyChat regarding the quote you see in the header by Kahlil Gibran. The thrust of the argument is this: Gibran may have been groomed and molested as a child by F. Holland Day; he subsequently became successful as an adult. Therefore we at Absolute Zero condone and promote ‘boylove’ because we appreciate Gibran's work.

“Kaylor” declares that he’s paid us his ‘first’ visit and is simply appalled that we would use any of Gibran’s work. He goes so far as to claim:

Through this cap-quote and its citation, "Absolute Zero" has made, in their ignorance, one of the strongest cases for pederasty ever formulated, a case for its beneficial impact on the young, its importance to culture, and its timelessness.

The reasoning behind his argument is this:

Kahlil Gibran (Gibran Khalil Gibran; 1883-1931) was the *loved boy* of the preeminent American Uranian photographer, Fred Holland Day (1864-1933)

Fact or opinion?

I personally chose that quote and feel no need to justify my choice or its use to the likes of “Kaylor” or anyone else at BoyChat. However, for the benefit of our dedicated readers, I offer the following:

Firstly, there is NO evidence that Day had an inappropriate relationship with any child. In fact, the F. Holland Day Museum denies the claims outright on their "common errors" page:

There is no evidence that Day had a sexual relationship with any of his models. Although Jussim implied that such relationships were possible and others have perpetuated this assumption

Secondly, there has never been so much as an accusation that Gibran himself was a paedophile; we know for a fact that he was not. So it comes down to their claim that Day “made” Gibran what he became. This is utterly absurd conjecture. By all acounts, the most important influences in his life were women!

Gibran was possibly groomed and molested as a child but managed (through his own brilliance) to become a successful man. Does that make our use of his words inappropriate? To the contrary, I cannot think of anything more appropriate.

The psychotic child molester Bill Evans seemed to think that this information would come as a revelation to us and the quote would be removed.

I will simply say that this is not ‘new information’ to me or anyone else here at Absolute Zero. We knew it was possible that Gibran was groomed as a child which added meaning rather than detracted from its use.

Should anyone have further questions/grievances regarding the use of this quote, I suggest you read through the available information on Gibran (not Day – it was not his words that I used). Alternatively, you can leave a comment here or drop me an email to discuss the matter further.