Seth the molester

Another girlchat pig is in the process of molesting a little girl.
Seth tells his pedophile friends all about it:

Another Girliscious Day with Mary

Posted by Sethon Tuesday, August 17 2010 at 04:37:41pm

Yesterday I went over to see Mary's mom, Ann, and immediately Mary jumped into my arms and mentioned something about swimming. I had told Ann the day before that I wanted to take her swimming, as it may be the last time this summer we got to go. Ann can't keep a secret either, so Mary was already excited about the idea when I arrived. So we went to the pool for a couple of hours, and again for a large part of the time we were there we had it all to ourselves. Mary has this habit of clinging to me while she's in the pool, which can be charming sometimes and annoying at other times. But I didn't mind it yesterday; I was in a good mood all day.

Later we went back to my house, and I set Mary up on my computer playing games. She loves the pinball game that comes with Windows, as well as Minesweeper, although she still hasn't completely grasped the concept of the latter. I made some pizza rolls and we had a great time just hanging out. Later, after I took her home, I stayed for awhile to visit with Ann and her friend. We watched TV for a bit, with Mary in my lap the whole time. She still hadn't changed out of her swimsuit, so her behind was a bit damp in my lap, but I didn't care. I spent the whole time rubbing and scratching her back, she directing me where to scratch; she was relaxed and limber in no time. Eventually I had to slip out from under her and go home because I was getting a little too relaxed myself.

So went another girliscious day with Mary. I can't wait till I get to do it all over again. :)

As you can see the process of molesting this child has already begun, and with her mothers blind stupidity "Mary" will become another child victim for this sick piece of pedophile shit!

How sad that the mother doesn't use common sense as to why this weirdo wants to be with her daughter.

And what kind of a mother would let her child lay around on a guys lap and not change out of her swimsuit?


Desperate people have desperate needs. Must be that this mother is desperate. I feel bad for "mary" because of her mothers desperation she will become another statistic.

Dissident, The Eternal Fool

This guy just never gives up. He just CAN NOT see that, well, kids don't want to have sex with him. He tries and tries to want to have youth groups to point to, the ones who say, YES YES CAN WE PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH UGLY OLD FAT MEN PLEASE!

Thing is, that ain't happnin. But not too many of these guys can accept this. One day, in a Kingdom, far, far away, there will be a place where young children will want to have sex with ugly old men and women! Imagine! Mushrooms and ferns and sunlight through the trees! It'll be MAGICAL, it'll be AWESOME, and we JUST. CAN'.T WAIT.

lol.

So. Here's Dissident again. I figured, since he was so polite as to reply to us, I figured we'd reply to him(well, we as in i lol).

First of all, if this is so hard for you to decipher, well, I just don't know what to say:

"all those with the need to hate something"

Something. Some ephemeral something that we just hate out loud and just blame it on you. So sad. It couldn't POSSIBLY be because we were fucked in the head by people JUST LIKE YOU. No way. Anyway.


"They refuse to acknowledge a difference between sexual activity achieved through force and coercion and that which is mutually desired by two human beings simply because some of those people are beneath a certain age."

No, see, we do. You don't. That's the problem.

"The belief is that giving them a response inadvertantly empowers them and gives them more control over our lives than they deserve."

They are right. You are wrong. However, because you insist that you're right, we win. Good fucking deal.

Because Dissident is so long winded, and because I choose to sleep, because, we'll get him soon, I'll cut this short. Please feel free to take other parts of his "infinite wisdom" apart.

"My response to AZ's backlash re: B4U-Act
Posted by Dissident on Friday, November 13 2009 at 01:29:57am
As we all expected, the last successful workshop of B4U-Act that I attended and wrote a review about on GC has resulted in a predictable and thoroughly amusing backlash from AZ, who can't stand the fact that MAA's are refusing to remain the punching bag of all those with the need to hate something, and who currently rationalize their outlet for hatred under the guise of "protecting children." The idea that we will one day live in a world where MAA's and youth sexuality are no longer hated and feared, and where the right to sexual expression isn't limited to those aged 18 or over, and where the words "abuse" and "rape" aren't distorted beyond all meaning by those who believe that only people above a certain Magic Age should be allowed to express their sexuality is abohrrent to the mindset of the modern anti. They refuse to acknowledge a difference between sexual activity achieved through force and coercion and that which is mutually desired by two human beings simply because some of those people are beneath a certain age. They insist on believing that an adult having a mere stray thought of someone under 18 being sexy and attractive is an act of pure evil that needs to be contained and denied any form of expression (and if you think I am exaggerating here, just wait until you check out some of Stiches' comments down below). I think the person from VoA who e-mailed me these quotes so that I wouldn't have to visit that website and become ill.

Okay, I am aware that some people here believe that the best type of response to the ignorant, hate-filled nonsense regularly spewed by the likes of AZ is NO RESPONSE. The belief is that giving them a response inadvertantly empowers them and gives them more control over our lives than they deserve. But I think the fact that MHP's are currently reaching out to us, recognizing our humanity, and realizing that adult attraction to those we today label minors is not some horrifically repulsive abnormality but something that deserves objective study regardless of how badly groups like AZ attempt to demonize them for doing so is a sign of progess. Those like AZ who want society to remain forever in the Dark Ages concerning youth sexuality and to continuously believe that every adult who is attracted to minors is an abominable monster who needs to be put either in jail or in an asylum for "treatment" (depending on which way the political pendulum happens to swing at any given time) is slowly but surely overreaching themselves with their attacks on free speech and on anyone who doesn't hold a viewpoint towards us and youth sexuality similar to their own. As a result of listening to some of the people in the community who believe we should give NO response to AZ over what they say about us, I avoided composing a response to them in regards to their recent maltreatment of Poisontears. However, THIS time it's a bit more personal. I think sometimes it's useful and even necessary to respond to the antis, NOT because I think that they have more power than they actually do, but because I think clearing up the record and letting the public hear our side of the story is VERY important. So this time I decided to give a response. In fact, the great success of the past few workshops of B4U-Act and the fact that more of us in the MAA community are starting to show their faces in public and the fact that more MHP's are starting to recognize our humanity and refusing to judge us as human beings simply due to our attraction base is a sign that the likes of PJ and AZ are starting to LOSE power and influence. Progress cannot be stifled, and it's been a rule of history that all minority groups eventually achieve acceptance, understanding, and emancipation despite the large number of people in society who are against change. AZ knows this at some level, and this greatly angers them. Their attempts to boycott every single company that may publish a "pro-pedophile" book or view (i.e., makes statements that do not totally demonize us or see us as something less than human or possibly even a non-politically correct view of youth sexuality) has proven mostly unsuccessful, which makes it clear that their attempts to combat the First Ammendment when it comes to those expressing views that they find offensive is also doomed to failure in the end. Pedophiles and hebephiles will NOT be legislated out of existence, no amount of demands on making an exception to the First Ammendment to censor every non-negative view ever expressed about our attraction base and/or youth sexuality will ultimately prove successful, and no attempts to ban or delegitimize art for daring to feature something as "obscene" as a nude child or teen will continue to be acceptable. A brighter and more free future for everyone is at hand, and this is something that the supporters of the current Dark Age of understanding regarding youth sexuality and adult attraction to minors sense and are growing increasingly fearful of. They live in mortal fear and anxiety over a future society where their current warped definitions of "abuse" and "rape" are no longer defined as such, and where young people are allowed to be sexual beings and adults are allowed to recognize them as such without being considered "sick" or pathological.

Now, onto my response to Stiches' comments regarding the most recent B4U-Act workshop:

1. There were no cops there yay!

Is Stiches hereby implying that there should have been cops present at a mere public discussion about pedophilia and hebephilia simply because the non-MAA's there were present to try and understand us rather than demonize us? The First Ammendment really sucks, doesn't it, Stiches? It's not enough that MAA's (and other curious folk) are currently arrested simply for looking at pictures of naked young people...you want the cops involved even for the mere discussion of the subject. Maybe that is one of the reason the antis are becoming less popular and less able to stifle progress and understanding these days...their desire for the police state mentality in controlling thought and discussion is proving to be incompatible with a society that purports to be based on principles of democracy.

2. There is a good reason not to trust counselors, if you are a pedophile. I mean, yeah, considering that they are compelled to report child abuse. The pedophiles all agree about this.

Um, the mistrust that many MAA's have towards counselors goes WELL beyond this, and if you read our posts less selectively you would understand that. What many of us are afraid of in regards to mentioning our attraction base to MHP's we may be seeing is based on our fear of being demonized by them and seen as something less than human, or for them reporting us to the police even if we are NOT involved in any illegal activity simply due to the popular prejudices against us and the constant assumption that we are inevitably going to "abuse" a minor. No one at the workshop ever suggested that the MHP's shouldn't report illegal activity, but the meeting was simply a call for MHP's who are more sensitive to the needs of MAA's who are having a difficult time living in this society due to all the hatred against us, the problems we may have with keeping a job or being on good terms with our families, having to deal with the constant stream of lies emanating from the mouths of the antis in the media telling us that we are incapable of being anything other than a bunch of child molesting monsters who ruin the lives of other people, etc. And you think it's WRONG for some MHP's to simply see us as human beings who are capable of being productive members of society? The truth is, MANY MAA's are productive members of society and live an entirely law-abiding existence despite having more and more expressions of our attraction base being criminalized by the government every single year. I'm sorry that these particular MHP's who desire understanding over hatred, knowledge over misconceptions, and who put science before popular politics are not to your liking, but a backlash like this is the case whenever those who live on mindless hatred see the objects of their scorn treated as human beings. The depictions of the Japanese people during World War 2 comes to mind here (if AZ existed back then, in the days before the term "pedophile" became widely known, I'm sure you would have spent all your free time demonizing anyone who dared suggest that any Japanese citizen of the U.S. should be released from those detention centers; the temptation to see the "enemy" as something less than human is quite strong, as all of the antis prove).

3. Still, the pedos want to talk to them in order to further their agenda, but they can't present their FULL agenda. Yet. Maybe later, maybe soon. Depends on how cooperative the MHPs are, of course.

Every minority group has to work towards their rights in steps. When the black community were finally freed from chattel slavery, they knew it would be a while before society was ready to accept them taking professional positions such as doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. There is nothing "abnormal" about any minority group seeking full emancipation and acceptance, and if you ever bothered to study the civil rights movements of various groups in the past you would see astounding parallels between the situations of these past groups and the MAA's and youth of today. Of course, the antis deny and claim to be offended by any such comparison between other minority groups and what they went through in the past and that of MAA's and the youth community today, but the statements you make against us now are remarkably similar to those made against other minority groups in the past. And your utter refusal to accept the fact that young people under the Magic Age can possibly have a sexual side to their nature is remarkably similar to what society used to believe about women in the days prior to their suffrage.

3. Some people are able to be in the same room with pedos and not hurt them yay!

And this is a bad thing? Once again, the antis seem to display extreme opposition towards seeing MAA's as anything other than a group of demonic beings in human form who would deserve any degree of violence that might be directed against them simply for discussing their issues in public. Damn those MHP's for being understanding and civilized instead of initiating hatred and violent acts against us!

4. Counselors are ill-equipped to deal with pedophile activists. Well, yeah.

Implying that anyone who dares to sympathize with our plight in society and who seeks real knowledge rather than the constant spewing of hatred and misinformation against is a bad thing??!! It was inevitable that counselors and other people in society eventually began seeing us as a distinct minority group rather than a group of evil monsters.

5. There is hope for the future (if you want to rape children)

I am not even going to get into it again regarding your warped and utterly retarded definition of the word "rape." No MAA that I have EVER known has supported the use of force or coercion to achieve sexual activity with a younger person, and THAT is what the TRUE definition of "rape" is. None of the MHP's we were talking to even discussed lowering or abolishing the age of consent; we were simply discussing treating MAA's like human beings and offering counseling services for those of us who need to talk to someone regarding the difficulties of living as an MAA in this society. Of course, the antis see sinister implications in absolutely everything that we do, and even the mere attempt by us to be seen as human beings disturbs them. That is what bothers the antis the most about these workshops...the knowledge that not EVERY single non-MAA out there sees us as horrific monsters.


6. Smurf dancer spoke, talking about how, because he is a sex offender, he can't teach pretty little girls to dance. All the pedos frowned about that. Apparently the counselors in this meeting frowned as well.

I see your point. So the mere fact that Paul (you can't even show him the dignity of calling him by his real name) has this attraction base and dared to look at pics of little girls automatically means that he is inherently psychotic and will inevitably rape or molest any girls he happens to be teaching. And you WONDER why we oppose such warped and vicious logic?

7. More hope!

Sorry that this disturbs you, but progress for ALL minority groups has always been the law of history.

8. Dissident spent the night with Sproutinghalo. Ang got to know him very well. -wink-

Hmmm...was this perhaps a display of homophobia by Stiches? Nahhhh...

9. Eggs could be thrown at the counselors who attended the conference AS WELL AS the pedos. Especially the ones who think pedoness is perfectly okay and that children should be hurt as often as the MAAs want.

Never mind the fact that this was NOT what the workshop was about. I guess, as usual, the antis see only what they want to see and make assumptions way out of context regarding any post they see from us. And, of course, you clearly express your fears that one day the terms "harm" and "rape" and "molestation" will NOT be used in such a warped form in the future as they are today and that one day society will accept youth sexuality as much as it currently does for adults (and you can continue to deny the sexual nature of youths as much as you want, because an increasing number of young people are being arrested and put on the sex offender registry for any display of sexual behavior, including that between peers of the same age, and young teen girls are arrested and put on the sex offender registry for sending pics of themselves in their underwear over their cell phones; NOW do you see why the antis are the ones in denial rather than the MAA community?? Heaven forbid should anyone strive to stop this nonsense). And I should mention that ALL the MHP's present were VERY concerned about kids being harmed.

10. Some of the counselors thought it was fascinating.

Heaven forbid that someone should find a man my age being attracted to young teen girls as ANYTHING other than repulsive, horrifying, or pathological. We need to control such thoughts!

11. Dissident has never seen any evidence of child sexual abuse from his pedophile peers. (HHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

I would NEVER associate with anyone who would use force or coercion to gain sexual favors from people of ANY age, and I actively discourage illegal sexual behavior from all of my peers. Sorry, Stiches, but it is possible for MAA's to live inside the law regardless of their opinions of the law. And I'm also sorry to say this, but striving for change within the system is LEGAL.

12. He told these counselors this.

Um...duh!

13. They believed him. (HAHAHAHHAHA)

Considering my real life friends have known me for YEARS and YEARS and are well aware of the fact that I DO NOT engage in illegal sexual behavior, and that MAA's are fully capable of living within the law, it shouldn't surprise you that trained counselors can actually see us as something more than a group of deceptive liars. Heaven forbid!

14. They ate food together. And agreed that Oprah is EVIL.

Yup, having lunch together makes it clear that there are people capable of sitting down and breaking bread with us and seeing us as human beings. Heaven forbid! And considering the constant stream of lies that Oprah routinely spreads about us, including the glaring example I provided in my post about that alleged instruction manual for raping kids, is it any wonder that I suggest that maybe MHP's should get to know REAL MAA's and judge them on their own merits rather than listening to everything the antis say about us?

15. The pedos perved over an underaged looking food server.

Omg...heaven forbid that I should look at and admire the beauty of a young woman who was about 19-21 years of age. And heaven forbid could this woman pass for someone under the Magic Age! At my age, I should only be looking at and admiring and fantasizing about women in their 30's and 40's, right? That's all nice and "proper" according to a society with ageist prejudices and anxieties, right? I hate to break this to you, Stiches, and I'm sorry if this offends you considering your age, but many men (and women) find young women to be physically attractive. The fact that you try to demonize and even criminalize such thoughts when they are perfectly normal and natural, and have been so throughout human history, is just plain ridiculous. And you wonder why less and less people are taking you and your crew seriously? I dared to find a young woman attractive so now I'm a "perv." Nice. And btw, I was the one who pointed out to others that this young woman serving us was beautiful, there wasn't a huge "perv" session over her. And I am NOT ashamed of myself for finding young women beautiful, and you are NOT going to make me feel guilty over perfectly natural thoughts (even if said thoughts offend middle-aged women; need I remind you that there are MANY men who are attracted to middle-aged women, including many younger men, so this type of attitude is very much without merit).

16. Dissident hugged some psych major chick and it probably grossed her out. Big Time.

First of all, she wasn't a young psych major; she was a professional MHP who was in the business for a very long time and was much older than me. Oh yes, the "filthy pedophile" hugged a much older woman and (heaven forbid!) this person actually hugged me back and thought of me as a warm human being who actually had some good qualities to his character and was proud to meet me and spend several hours talking to me. And to think she could have such a warm reaction to a man who is attracted to teen girls! Ugh, the very thought of it! Let's throw eggs at her for that! She hugged a "filthy pedophile"!! She saw his humanity! Curse her in hell for that!!

17. Party party party, go to more of these if you are a pedo or a mental health professional who thinks, hey, Pedophilia is Alright By Me!

Change is also one of the rules of history, Stiches. Sorry that you can't deal with that.

I hope I didn't make this post too long, boring, or near-unreadable for you, Stiches. And I'm sorry that my refusal to be seen by society as nothing more than a child-molesting monster offends you. "


Clearly proof that he needs to be locked up. See you in the morning.

Wikisposure gives Pedophile Activists their own Halloween Surprise!

Wikisposure has once again out done themselves with the current outings Wikisposure Pedofright 2009!
This list of monsters is quite a haul, what a delightful Halloween treat!

	Francisco Perez AKA Kanospower "Welcome everyone that wants to be friends, dont mind the age nor anything else... "
	Chris Ilson AKA Westcoaster "In the case of a father with a daughter, I always believe it might be easier to start things if you were 'discovered' by your daughter while masturbating. Either nothing happens, or you get approached and something would happen. In either case, you'd have to follow up in a week's time and ask the daughter if they want to 'talk' and perhaps seeing that might lead to a nice discussion."
	Walter Howard AKA TMaximus95 "It's amazing to me how many cool stories I've read about the things boy lovers do with their young friend. It's not all about sex. I'm finding that many BL's hold their responsibility to a YF with a great conviction."
	Tom Reeves "The core of our identity must be unashamed love of boys as boys."
	Gary Wolchesky AKA MyIDIsPhat In October of 2009, thanks to the Youtube members who kept reporting him to law enforcement, Wolchesky was arrested on child endangerment charges.
	Gerald Moonen "9. In paragraph No 5, I explain that many young people seek a sexual confirmation and guidance from older people."
	Paul Sykes AKA Psyco "but for the record, I am a BL, in my 30's, My AOA (age of attraction for the newbies) is 8+ but my favorite kids to hang out with are the 10-12 yo's so if any of you have an extra boy kicking around who could use a friend or mentor, please send him my way"
	Mark Hunneyman AKA Snowcat "This is the perfect time of the year to see young boys of all shapes, sizes, and colors displaying their smooth lower legs. In my opinion, the thinner the better. My ideal boy is eight or nine with small little feet and thin smooth legs."
	Severen Shields aka Devholyjoke "Or in the back of my mind I'm going, if I date this woman I'll have free access to 3 little girls."
	John Kapshaw AKA Handfulofdust "So this is me, lifelong GL (and BL as well), finally opening up to Kindred Spirits."
	Einar Robert Fry AKA Kittycat80 "I am 28 years old and I live in Arizona. I work at a local casino as a Blackjack and Poker dealer. I have been a boylover pretty much all my life, although I didn't know there was a term for my attraction until I was around 19."
	Miffy AKA Simon Rose "i would love to grab a 2 year old girl from a shopping center take her in to some woods and split her open with my cock i would fuck her up every hole and shoot my load in her mouth"
	Jerry Douglas Ray AKA Childdriver "Well I showed my porn collection to my niece, she found it under the bed. This lead to discussions on what sex was and how it felt. Then of course she wanted to try somethings out. Neddless to say, the seeing sex first via porn, has done wonders to get the girls ready for the real thing."
	Tom Arthur AKA Mr. Double "Have her play like she is giving birth to a baby(preferably a girl). Then as soon as the head pops out of her pussy, fuck the baby's mouth while fucking her with the baby."
	Matthew Harman AKA Elliptor Little Boy Cum? "I would love that! Not huge buckets of cum, but just like when boys first hit puberty. Yummy"
	Paul Dobbins AKA Nz "lol yes, i fixed the age thing Anyone over 12 can join. If you really want yer little bro to join i can modify it for him just lemme know"
	Oscar Scott Guzman AKA Scott G " What, precisely, did you find so 'sick' in what I said above? That I fingered my little sister? I'm sorry that I don't conform to North America's societal norms, but can you tell me, besides that, what's so terrible about it?"
	Cory McDonald AKA CryptKeeper Topic: What turns You on Most About a Boy?? "depending on the boy really can be anything [Big Grin]"
	TheGreatBL AKA Derek Foster "in a pure fantasy world,using your imagination.would you like to suck or be suck by a 12 year boy? remember this is all just fantasy lol"
	Leland Stevenson "I befriended a young teenage boy….we went on a camping trip….on awakening in the morning, he positioned himself in such a way that nature would take its course….No lubricant was desired or required…he experienced what he wanted to experience. "
	Shane Hellenga AKA Boywtchr1975 "Kids nowadays are learning at younger ages and at faster paces then people did when I was growing up. This is my answer to the survey.....Yes. If the boy is initiating sexual contact, I respect his decision and would gladly consent."
	Glen Hall "I once tried the video camera in the shopping bag bit, basically for shits and grins. Once caught a young pre-teen girl, perhaps twelve, at a pinball machine in a short sun skirt I was having fun just standing close and looking over her shoulder but when I saw the tape the shoulder was not as appetizing.….the most sensual part was all the blonde peach fuzz leading up to the crack of her ass… I could probably explained away filming a mature woman, but a pre-teen?"
	Daniel Smock AKA AirboyDS "Summer is the best time to be a boylover, in my opinon. You have things such as the LLWS, and seeing boys while swim at the pool or the beach."
	Timothy Shehan AKA MrTim "If you had a daughter, are you sure of that statement? Most people, myself included, couldn't make that statement. I would say that I would try to avoid touching her sexually, but I couldn't guarantee that I wouldn't."
	Abear AKA Michael Herbert "You have permission to use my stories and my nickname however you want. But please remember that I am painting you in a good light in this story, and that I am just finishing a scene where you had sex with three young girls who are named after authors from this page."
	Walter David Bertsche III AKA Mortuis99 "23:53 <> i wanna see a live action ver of Enzai 23:55 <> in enzai there are some good ass raping scenes"

Happy Halloween from Absolute Zero United!

Standing up for what you believe in

I am harmless. I can promise you that.

Emovocals faces up to life in prison after he was arrested and charged Wednesday on accusations of molesting a 10-year-old boy whose Grand Isle County family said they hired him over the Internet as a nanny.

Is anyone really surprised? Another member of GirlChat and BoyChat preying on children, putting himself in a position to be in close contact with children, pretending to just "love children why he'd never hurt children" as the typical filthy pedophile always does.

We first wrote about Douglas Shepherd

aka Donald Shepherd aka Emovocals, JonnyXO, Philosophy and Kyva when we discovered this pedophile advertising to be a nanny online in 2007 Searching for a Nanny? Read This

"Steve Lampert, CEO of eNannySource.com, said company records list no one with the suspect’s given name, but they do contain two aliases Vermont police say Shepherd used.

An account under one alias, Parker Wilder, was closed in August 2008 after a family complained about him; a listing for a Donald Shepherd, the name law enforcement says the boy used in referring to his nanny, had been shut down in December 2006, also following a complaint"

So this is to be expected:

Shepherd admitted the inappropriate activity included touching, oral sex and the taking of explicit photographs. According to police, Shepherd said he initially felt like a father figure for the boy but later the "dynamic changed and turned into, you know, I see him as a lover."

Shepherd had nothing to say as he left the Grand Isle Courthouse charged with a list of sex crimes, including aggravated sexual assault on a child. Investigators say that Shepherd will likely face child porn charges. That part of the investigation is just beginning but it's expected to be huge, with thousands of images found on Shepherd's electronic equipment, including photos of the victim in this case.

Shepherd told law enforcement he had had worked with children in California, Florida, Michigan, and at summer camps for boys in Texas and New York. He had also been approved to be a substitute teacher in Grand Isle County. Police are concerned that there could be other victims out there.

People who think that pedophiles chatting amongst each other in online pedo groups are "just chatting and gaining support" from each other need to think twice. That isn't what they are doing at all. They are trying to gain validation so they don't have to face what they really are. They're feeding each others demented desires for children which DOES encourage them to act out.

They say they're exercising free speech, but the Anti's say they are endangering children by messing with the distorted minds of fellow pedophiles, feeding them "girl moments" and "boy moments" and glorifying child sexual abuse.

They are participating in hate speech.

Their targets: children.

"People are being jailed just for being attracted to children. Isn't that what you tell me when I would give out information about myself on this board? Hell, now I am on some ass hole's blog. My pictures and all. That is what happens though when you stand up for something you believe in. I risk the chance everyday of being found out and investgated. How do you think that makes me feel?

I am not asking you to look past the things I have done, or except my lies. I am only asking you to stop your madness. I am harmless. I can promise you that. I just need people to talk to. I hope that some of this will sink in, but I doubt it."

Is that Love that you're feeling?

Greenfly first became a member of GirlChat while searching the internet for child pornography back in 2002. He says he's sexually attracted to prepubescent girls and also little boys, occasionally women but never men.

His real name of course is Aubrey Eugene Davis. Aubrey says he first became aware that he was a pedophile when he was a teenager but that he'd been "playing" with little girls since he was 9 or 10. He called it tickling games or wrestling games and believes that he's a pedophile now because of molesting so many children when he was young.

Now as an adult he makes sure to put himself in close contact with children. He says he's worked with the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and volunteers at summer camps. I wonder if parents would be trusting their child around Aubrey if they knew some of the things he's said. Such as:

i hope you guys are having a good start to your summer. mine has started very nicely. i'm working at a summer camp for a couple of weeks. we had 5-7 yr olds last week and 8-11 yr olds this week.

Man it's been guite awesome. some hotties last week and this. so, i'm kinda like a fat kid in a candy store ("bone-apetit":)) LOL).

Or how about this one:

How about this? Setting on a couch with a yg, leaning over and kissing on her, by leaning over your weight forces her to lay on her side, this position allows you to be in position to mount her. It would be a side mount.

Or this:

cunnilingus and gently stroking of a yg's labia majora and minora is very pleasing to them.

And:

legally speaking if you touch a girls "secret place" whether you have concent or not wont matter. I don't think a defense of "well she said i could" would wash with a judge or jury. i guess you could try and let the rest of us know the outcome.

don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to be a hypocrite, i've touched girls before with their permission. you just have to be careful. kids talk. adults misunderstand. you end up in hot-water.

Or:

just remember females have 3 orifices. you can ah "utilize" 2 of them and maintain your virginity but have fun all the while. :)

Over and over Aubrey started discussions where he was obviously seeking validation for his affliction. He says he's a pedophile. He says he doesn't have sex with children while admitting that he's touched them. He says he doesn't understand how you can be a pedophile if there's no sex involved.

how can you be a pedophile and not want to have sex with a minor? that's like saying homosexuality doesn't advocate sex with the same sex. if you are a pedophile, if you love minors than you are one, then you at least think about having sex with minors

i respect your opinion. but i can not understand how child love, a.k.a. pedophilia, can be legitamite if there's no sex at all.

He made it clear he didn't want a "romantic relationship", that for him it was all about sex.

i don't understand, maybe i'm stupid, how adult men can fall in love with a 12, or so, year old. I have a very attract 13 year old cousin. i love her as a cousin, but when i think of intimate situations, it's all lust. I would never disrespect her, but i could never LOVE her whether she was my cousin of not.

after reading some of the messages over the last few days, i'm woundering if this site should be call girllust garden. if we couldn't have orgasms we wouldn't be interested at all. so is it love that you felling or lust?

And then after awhile he reached a conclusion that's rather rare for a pedophile to do. He himself wanted sex with children but he recognized all those other pedophiles for what they really were

if i had a daughter, there's no way i'd leave her alone with a girllover whether i new him or not. most child predators are fimilar with the kids they target. so, i don't see how knowing a girllover helps with a since of security.

I hope anyone who has children in contact with this man are warned. He certainly doesn't need to be watching children at summer camps and he's even been stalking his own relatives children. I find this very disturbing:

i have an interest in the way people, especially younger adults and kids, die. Unnatural deaths primarily. I find the data interesting, and sometimes amusing.

Personally, I don't find that amusing at all.

Visit Wikisposure and learn more about this dangerous pedophile Aubrey Eugene Davis

Basking in the Radiance of Madness

Demosthenes AKA Jacob Detring was once one of the loudest, most aggressive and radical voices at GirlChat...until he started making enemies from his own "brothers and sisters"- as he referred to them.

I admit it's rather nice to tick off the names of some of those on my personal top ten list of filthy pedophiles. It makes me happy. It makes me smile. But I'll smile even bigger when the other 7 are revealed. Can you guess who they are? MY list may not match your list. I guess we all have different reasons, eh?

* Winston Smith
* Dylan Thomas
* Demosthenes

Jacob was so easy to despise. From his history of making scathing flames directed at his own, to the scathing flames directed at us, to his support for giving drugs to little girls to prevent them from going through puberty, to his frequent puffed-up diatribes, support for child pornography and calls for Revolution - Demosthenes was impossible to ignore.

Who could forget this?

"Shame? I am very proud of who and what I am."

"I make no excuses or apologies, nor do I hold back."

"Most of my life, the one thing that I always seemed to have going for me when nothing else did was my linguistic ability, my ability to dance and play with written (and sometimes spoken) word. Being my, to me, singularly most outstanding gift, I worked and honed it until it could also be my most potent weapon."

"Violence and force can spurn people to a desired action, but words can make those same people to take the ideal behind that action into their heart and make it their own. As has been said many times throughout history, words are power.. and I very much enjoy being powerful."

Of course he also said this:

"modelling pictures are legal, and "feeling up" your LGF may not be but if it is desired and accepted by her then there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. We all know this, whether we dance around the "brake no law" stance or not"

And:

"We are all that stands between children and a world where innocence of any kind can not exist. Yes, innocence can thrive when we are involved with a child, even when that involvement becomes sexual. We are children's last hope, and they are our salvation"

And:

"You want to know how I overcame some of those obstacles that are dominating your psyche? I did it by letting sanity go and basking in the radiance of madness. Sanity is an illusion."

Jacob Detring believed that children needed to be taught about sex - by having sex with adults, otherwise they would become dysfunctional adolescents, then dysfunctional adults. Like him.

He thought people would believe him when he said:

"My only goal in all of this is to create the system that allows children to flourish and meet their potential. I don't care about getting anything for myself. I'm for the complete sexual liberation of youth, as well, but I don't have any personal gain in mind with it."

After he had said this:

"Trust me.. you don't get away with it and people don't find it cute. The mother of a girlfriend that I did have like that at that age threatened to call the police on me if I didn't stay away from her daughter"

He wanted to be a leader:

"They have agendas, but their battle plan is one of histrionics and fear. Our battle plan would have to be such that they didn't see the effects of it until it were too late for them to do anything about it.

They want someone to label as the leader? I'll take the honor. I'm arrogant enough to enjoy the thought of my name being the one that they curse when the day comes that they realize that they lost their war before it was started. They are so foolish that they don't even take into consideration that in our numbers are some of the most intelligent people in the world.

One does what one must. I have existed in obscurity and shadow my entire life, but I've always known what it would come to if anything were to change. Do I want to be the leader? Desire has little to do with it, as I don't pray for that sort of responsibility. The issue is what one is willing to do. A leader is required for a movement to exist, as such, I will do what I must. I have spent my life existing but not living, and if my life is the required payment for the the world to change, then so be it. Death is something that I have never been afraid of.. living has.

As I have said before, the win against them must be sudden and it must be decisive. We can not fight to merely win the first battle, we must make the first battle the only one by winning so completely that there no chance of the next one."

Jacob abandoned the war and scurried away before attending the first battle. Outwitted I suppose you could say. Or perhaps he just found himself under a boot. Yes, it really was just that simple after all.

"In the end, there is something that I feel for the antis stronger than hate. The strongest feeling that I hold toward those people is pity.

I pity them because they are varelse, and they will never be able to understand the joy that we feel. They will never be able to love children as we do......But that pity will not save them from me when the time comes for me to stand and take the inevitable war to them.

They war against us now and stand basking in their small victories, but they can not conceive of the day approaching when their time will be over and the world will no longer have a place for them. Their hypocritical and disgusting cry is "protect the children", ours will be simply "For the Children!".

"Protect children" is a disgusting cry? Only someone whose sole motivation is sexual pleasure at the expense of an innocent child could say such a thing. "For the children" is pedospeak for "I'm molesting kids for their own good"

But, thanks to Wikisposure's boot perhaps we've now heard the last of Jacob's nauseating pontificating pomposity. When all is said and done he's really no more than what he said he was ..... Jacob Detring is "Pedo by Design"

HT Jacey

The Darkness Within

Alia Loren Jacobson
aka
Poisontears

Her website describes her this way:

"As the recently crowned Princess of the Night, Alia is intrigued by beauty found within the macabre, and intends to show a generation of gothlings just how intensely exquisite the darkness within the soul can be."

What's the first thing people think when they see her I wonder.

Take that thought, whatever it might be and add the fact that she's a pedophile and attracted to prepubescent little girls. And sometimes boys. Never adults.

Add to that her interest in necrophilia. The interest she says she tries to keep suppressed.

Ready? Now add the fact that unlike the other pedophiles she doesn't even try to disguise herself as a "girl lover" - No she says it straight out -

"i'm not even sure if i can truly consider myself to be a girllover--after all, most of my fantasies are purely physical and include hurting little girls. there is no way that can be considered girllove."

Does this concern you?

When Alia was in college she confessed her desires to a friend. This friend reported Alia and she was forced to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. Alia's parents told her not to "tell too much" and shortly Alia returned to GirlChat to say she had been deemed "not dangerous to children" but admitted that they don't really know the full extent of her deranged views.

I'd like to consider for a moment what WE - we meaning people who don't want to have sex with children - we who don't want to make children scream - would do, what would we say to someone like this? Someone who wasn't a stranger but a long-time member of the group? What if they said this to you

"Sometimes when i'm walking and i see someone boy or girl who i think is beautiful the first thing that comes through my mind is how erotic it would be to hurt them....."

So? What would you say? What would you do? Let's look at what GirlChat members said to her. She's been there for EIGHT years, I'd be guessing that her desire isn't going away anytime soon wouldn't you? This is how the "Girl lovers" aka child haters responded when Alia said:

What am I? Where should I go? Help me!

I don’t know how to transfer my desire to strangle into a desire to cuddle

T3hl33tg33k:

You can talk to me

I think we might have similar feelings

Minstrel:

I strongly advise against 'professional help' as being completely useless for any problems you might have. If you tell a shrink you're attracted to girls, you're already doomed, even without mentioning violent fantasies. I don't see the point in throwing your life away

So, where should you go? I suggest Girl Chat Chat.

Dissident:

fantasies are just a way to let off steam for your inner frustrations. However, I don't think it's particularly healthy to NEVER think about cuddling and gentle imagery and to ALWAYS think about abusive behavior in your fantasies. A healthy dosage of both is better than just one type of fantasizing exclusively, IMO

You seem like a pleasant enough person, Poison

BB:

What I would guess is that you've never actually been able to have a close relationship with a LG. If you did, I strongly suspect that you would find the comfort you're seeking in the warm, soft, comforting arms of a LG. If you had the opportunity to really be with a girl, you would find that violence is the furthest thing from your mind.

T3hl33tg33k:

Wait a minute, you have a vagina!
Rape away, then! People will be thanking you for it.

Blue Heaven:

Accept the problem and let it go, but don't encourage it, and don't deny it. Just let it be. If you're a good person otherwise, then hold true to that.

Razor1911:

i refuse to blame sex offenders that actually kidnap a child and do something about it

Whatever happens is the pedophobes' fault.

For example, the person that technically did it should receive one year in prison while the pedophobic therapists and their accomplices in society should be slowly beaten to death. They are child killers, pulling the strings from a good distance while we erreneously focus, with a perspective that is far too small, on the single person that has his strings pulled.

BB:

Yes, the Antis are responsible for creating the monsters that they hate, but those monsters still have free will.

I will concede, however, that if all the Antis died, there be virtually no crimes against children anymore.

LGSoul:

As long as you seperate fantasy from reality and maintain your self-control you should have no problem. Or maybe if you feel its best just stay away from little girls. Or (if you live in the USA) you could masturbate to violent lolicon. To sexually relieve yourself.

THAT is the truth about GirlChat. Their entire existence is nothing more than denial, rationalizations and LIES. They lie to society, they lie to the Anti's, they lie to each other and they lie to themselves. They HAVE to, the truth might make them scream.

Knowing how they fed into the disturbed and demented mind of Alia Jacobson, I wonder what they would say if she did what Melissa Huckaby did? I don't think that is too far-fetched of a question to ask, especially when they've been wondering if Melissa could possibly be a member of one of their pedo-sites. Hopefully we'll never have to discover that answer considering they won't discuss their own members who commit crimes and go to prison for life. However, we CAN see what they had to say about the woman accused of sexually assaulting and murdering Sandra Cantu.

Trucker refers to Melissa Huckaby:

I feel more pity for her than sweet little Sandra; at least Sandra's in LG heaven while the rest of the world has to fight through this hellish life.

I hope the antis are damn skippy over the atmosphere they created. If there was more understanding than hating maybe Sandra would still be alive.

Iron Marxist:

If she was a member of the MAA community then she has even less of an excuse for doing what she did because that would mean that she felt love for little girls. Maybe she was constantly told all her life that she was an evil monster who was destined to hurt kids and she finally broke under the pressure.

But when any one of us allows society to break us and does something stupid and savagely cruel, not only does an innocent child and her family suffer but so does the entire MAA community. I just hope that when Sandra's Law is passed we don't end up losing forums like GC, because these forums help to prevent any of us from acting out in negative ways.

MimzyBorogrove:

You really want to know who killed Sandra Cantu? I'll tell you. It was you, I, and everyone else who has ever turned an unseeing eye or an uncaring heart to another's plight (or our own, for that matter.) Anyone who has taken profit from another's suffering, whether direct or not. Those among us who watch the darkness descending, who cry out for the dying of the light, yet, can't seem to break out of our molds enough to say "Enough is enough." We did it. We killed that little girl, as surely as if we had been standing there. And only by taking responsibility for all of this, can we ever hope to change ANY of it.

Trucker:

I don't care if I get heat for this but I can't stand how the U.S. just coddles and overprotects children just to keep them "innocent."

So a suspect in Sandra Cantu's murder has been caught. Notice how quickly the police got someone, not because a person was murdered, but because a "sweet, innocent little girl" was murdered. Is the concept of innocence worth the price of depriving possibly innocent people of freedom and riling paranoia?

Are children so helpless and ignorant that they must be given special attention whenever one gets killed every two years?

Until this bogus "innocence" stigma is done away with and children are seen as equals with adults, we will never be one unified people.

That's the brand of distorted crap Alia has heard for eight years. Alia, a woman fighting urges to "kill and rape and maim" receiving responses that

• it's just OCD
• it's normal to think that way
• she's really a nice person
• hold true to herself
  
• find violent lolicon to further feed the fantasies
• find a little girl to love

But if she does act out and hurts a child........then it's the fault of people who don't want her to molest their children.

So I ask you - if it were legal for adults to have sex with children, what do you think Alia Loren Jacobson would do?

"....I guess i have always sympathized too much with people who commit horrendous crimes because every so often i myself have to sit down and solemnly swear to myself that i will never murder anyone."

--poisontears
GirlChat 2003

"If the police came knocking on my door"

Do you find it interesting when those that preach "tolerance" the loudest sometimes are the most intolerant? I do. Let's take a look at that.

Here is Daniel Thorlby aka Carrollingian.

He's just another filthy pedophile from GirlChat.

We wrote about his roommate Brother Chubba here

So what's so special abut Daniel? Well you see Daniel Thorlby is a member of the British National Party. A man who wants to molest little girls and be accepted for it running for office as a member of the BNP? That strikes me as a little odd personally. He's quite proud of the photos taken of him along side Nick Griffin. I wonder what Nick Griffin thinks of Daniel? Perhaps he just shakes his head and says "What a strange duck" but I think more likely he just doesn't know.... despite Daniel's assertions that he's "out" to everyone in his life.

I think Daniel Thorlby is just a typical pedophile who -- in his own words -- "pervs on girls" and fancies himself a writer. Yes a journalist, playwright, poet and pedo savior. He wrote a long essay and was published on IPCE -- "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation" Perhaps one day we'll see his books on Amazon.com - the primary distributor of pedophile propaganda.

Daniel Thorlby is in fact such a brilliant politician that he came up with several different plans for pedo activism. One included all pedophiles doing something to get themselves fired so they could all be supported by the state -- and since there are so many pedophiles you know it would financially ruin the taxpayers. I guess that will show them eh? Wonder if he ran his theory by Nick Griffin the head of the BNP?

Between Daniel and his roomie Steve they say they've met several pedophiles at their home. From Tom O'Carroll to Foreverman, Docter Marten and Seamus. Who are those people? Well we know Tom of course. Let's try to find out the others, shall we?

Daniel has gone so far in fact that he has devised a plan for a pedophile army. He called it the PLO as in Paedophile Liberation Organization.

My fantasy at the moment is to form a paedophile army, then to stage a demonstration for pro-paedophilia in the middle of some big city. All those paedophobic bastards who come out to throw rocks at us and shoot us, and all the police who come to break us up etc. will then be legitimate targets for all of the PLO (paedophile liberation organization) snipers that are staged around the area.

And this will only be legitimate because there is NO OTHER WAY. Paedophiles do not WANT to be violent. But what other option is there. We are still RIGHT. Just because all other options for paedophile liberation have been exhausted, does not mean we have stopped being RIGHT. We must continue to do something!...

Now back to reality. If the police came knocking on my door, I would take a few of them down with me. I think I've said this before. Be warned, Mike.

Well naturally I can see what he's saying, there's simply NO OTHER WAY. They don't really WANT to be violent, they don't really WANT to be snipers, they don't really WANT to take out the police if they come knocking at their door. But really now, it appears there is no other way.

Visit Wikisposure and read about Daniel Thorlby. But be warned the article contains especially disturbing subject matter. Reader discretion is advised.

'Totally completely permanently out of the toy box'

Warlan Bassham AKA Jensman is a dangerous pedophile and long standing member of GirlChat.

Warlan will use any means at his disposal to gain access to children from offering private music lessons at his church to perving on girls at the mall and hanging out at dance recitals.

While he is very careful to add disclaimers to all his posts, he doesn't mind giving this kind of advice:

"The myth that vaginas in young girls are just slightly smaller versions of full size ones in women has led to a lot of pain. Penetration is possible between adult and prepubescent child, yes, but NOT IN THE VAGINA. I think you get what I'm saying."

Like many of his cohorts, Warlan is delusional enough to imagine that it really wouldn't be that bad if he came 'out of the toybox'. He explains:

Here's what would happen if I came totally completely permanently out of the toy box: (I'm already out to a very few trustworthy selected people, but that's not the same thing.)

First, some people would not believe me. They would say I was going through some sort of emotional crisis and that I would be sure to 'outgrow' my delusions about myself and return to my usual, normal self eventually. A very few of these would NEVER give in and believe me, no matter how long it went on.

Second, some parents of girls I was close to in the past would freak out and start trying to reinterpret past events in light of this new information about me. A few such parents might even decide that I had molested their children, and might even try to have me arrested. However, most, I believe, would realize that I had never touched, had never been a threat to touch, and that their children's lives were enriched by knowing me. Whether they would then be able to extrapolate from that insight to an open-hearted understanding of some more general truth about most true pedophiles, is a matter for conjecture, and my conjecture would probably be no more accurate than anyone else's.

There would probably be some effort to have me thrown out of some social organizations I belong to. I think, or at least hope, that most of these efforts would fail.

Some misguided mothers would probably 'throw their daughters at me,' in attempts to get me in serious trouble, if for no other reason. [This would not work, by the way.]

I don't think I would lose my job. In fact, I doubt that there would be any serious impact on my in my workplace-- as we are all kind of loners there and everyone allows space for everyone else, even in extreme cases.

I would probably be hounded out of my home by my neighbors. But that would be all right, because I don't much like my neighborhood anyway! In fact, I would probably move to a different country.

Thanks to the Wikisposure project, we will now find out if Jensman's predictions are correct. Please visit Jensman's wiki today to get more information on this dangerous pedophile.

Great work, PJ!

HT to Jacey for the graphic :)

Remember Winston Smith!

Once upon a time there was this blogger.....

And so begins the story of Matthew Woodward aka Winston101Smith, Debatecrime, Lepidopterist, Nympholepticose and many other names.

You see Matt is a filthy pedophile. Not only that, he's a rather stupid, militant filthy pedophile I had the misfortune of 'meeting' when he decided to make a target of my daughter.

Daydreamer of Oz was a blogger, just a blogger minding her own business and writing her opinions about whatever struck her fancy at the time. She didn't know about people like Matthew Woodward...........a crazed filthy pedophile proud of his perversion. Until she became his target that is. Until he decided to inflict his ugliness upon her -- an unwanted intrusion into her life. Matt changed everything.

He had a plan you see -- He was going to change the world! He was going to do this by pushing himself upon people who didn't want him. When he didn't receive the result he wanted -- immediate acceptance for pedophilia, he would intentionally try to arouse emotional responses from his targeted victims. Those who had encountered pedo terrorists before simply bashed him around a bit and were done with him. Those who hadn't, tried to explain to him why his desires were unacceptable. Sometimes he was met with fury, sometimes shock, sometimes dismay -- but always in the end he was banned.

Not one to accept defeat so easily, Matt would call on his pals at GirlChat to bail him out "I'm under attack!" he'd whine. Winston's pedo-posse would always ride in to save the day -- a coordinated attack. They mistakenly believed they could "open one mind at a time" and it would therefore be worth it.

Winston

I visited a blog by the daydreamerofOz character - who is a female - and I posted something which was not a flame. The next I knew they were up in flames and due to my posting inoffensive messages on other blogs of people who hate us naturally, they all seem to have banded together to form the ridiculous and false site Absolute Zero

Baldur

These blogwars are a good place to get some experience in presenting our arguments, and will also convince a few people to change their beliefs

slvrspun

Even extreme irony, even when it is pointed out right in front of them, even in their non-frothing moments, even under threat of pain or death. Some people are just fucking stupid, and the best responses are to either avoid them and not waste one's own time, or to disable them or kill them.

Enigma

I'm starting to feel like we should stop wasting our time being nice, and just do whatever it takes to win. We need to ram it down their throats and force them to accept us, not plead with reasoned arguments. These people do whatever they're told and parrot whatever they're told to believe. They'd be just as happy to endorse pedophilia if that was the strongest message they were receiving. They have no brains or minds of their own. They want controlling, and it's about time we gave them some.

99% of (non-pedo) humanity is lowlier than slime, once they pass puberty. We are the superior race. There is no negitiating with backward apes. The only way to have the world we want is to shut them up once and for all

Rookiee

we're supposed to be promoting love, not hate. Maybe we should listen more to what the anti-pedos are saying about us rather than just knocking it all off as "well, they hate us, so fuck'em"

ILGO

Rookie, you ignorant slut! ;)

When she (like others have before her) made the decision to make their blogs a one way street accepting only sycophants and rejecting anything said by us or said in our favor whilst joining the campaign to force our opinions off the blogosphere she became an enemy

Stitches77-- I really don't have anything to comment about with regard for her. I think she's mistaken to be so supportive of her daughter without checking into the facts for herself, but that's MOM and she's going to listen to her daughter over everyone else no matter what happens. Can you really blame her?

Winston

She's the bitch that brought up such a whore!!!!!!

Are you reading this, sick bitch????

Demosthenes

Dreamer of Oz is a coward and a bully, too scared of what would happen if she didn't censor us and allowed us to be heard alongside her that she refers to anything that she receives as hate mail.

I must agree on one point, though. Debatecrime does not help our cause. I may be militant, but he is a loose cannon that usually manages to serve the purpose of forcing the rest of us to follow in his wake and clean up the mess. Slvrspun's only problem was taking the last step and adding "or kill them", and Minstrel's only problem was using the word "bitch" to refer to this hate monger

SplinterLife

Trolls usually come to you -- in this case, we came to HER. She obviously doesn't want to hear anything from us, and I think it is smart for all parties involved to oblige her.

LGsinmyheart

Anyway, I believe we should continue to send her comments, as many people as possible, as often as needed. Why???

There are three possible options:

1) She continues to censor us; for which everything she says about us will not be anymore than crying wolf and not showing the evidence. Yes, people can do that for a loooooong time and suceed; but eventually it gets boring for the audience. So the more she claims "hate letters, hate letters, hate letters", the more paranoid and void of arguments she will look, even to fellow antis, and they will desert her.

2) She gets tired and stops the censorship. ===> we win.

3) She gets tired and abandons the project, seeing that we will NOT stop from at least trying to express the truth. I disagree with Minstrel (and Heinlein) in this: often truth needs to be repeated, even over and over. If she only gets fan mail, she might not get tired - if she gets opposition, even if she censors it, her liver is going to suffer a little. And I like the prospect of antis' livers to suffer.

End result whatever happens: we win!!

Debatecrime

She is just a nasty bitch that likes to use the lie that she is being bullied as a weapon against anyone she hates. Much like the way all evil women have been taught to behave.

Demosthenes

Perhaps the most intriguing part of it all is that you posted this hate-group rhetoric on a public blog and really expected nothing but support. I see that you are a mother of 2. I do feel incredibly sorry for your children, and I wish them the best luck in overcoming a toxic home environment run by someone who such a vocal advocate of hate and prejudice.

Very cute that you moderate comments, by the way. Censorship is but a stepping stone along the path to fascist dictatorship. Sieg Heil, madame.

ILGO

We Paederotics have learned from the lessons of history all we really have to do is wait them out -- the fools! Did they really delude themselves into thinking it was only about sex? Projection much? While they and their third spouse are shopping the children back and forth in between busy schedules and big screen televisions we're the ones those children will turn to.

dannywyatt

If your tired of pedophiles imposing themselves on you- deal with it- cause if you can't find a way to suck-it-the-fuck-up then your time will come in which you'll suffer like the little twerp you are.

I'm not a hater, but a hater of haters.

Again if you want to equate me to the likes of a murderer, rapist, terrorist, you name it then expect the same when I come to find your ass.

Winston

let's just catch one and rape the bastard silly with a truncheon and then set fire to their balls, followed by castration and a penectomy torture for an extended period of time. it would make me smirk :>/)

LGsinmyheart

Socrates said that his purpose in life was to be like a mosquito in a hot summer noon: to bother society in the comfort of its self-deceiving lies and wake up its most alert elements. The sleeper gets incredibly annoyed, and chases and chases the mosquito around them. The mosquito, meanwhile, has the wildest fun of their life, with their sound, and biting and standing on the sleeper, and sucking the blood thereof.

Of course, the danger is, sometimes the sleeper kills the mosquito... as Athens did to Socrates...

But I will not stop being the mosquito.

I do have fun doing it, really.

Enigma

I know the antis are assholes and they have an infuriating way of ignoring logic and reason in favor of their own prejudices.

You have created virulent new enemies for us through your lack of politesse.

I am in favor of bringing the battle to the antis instead of letting them bring it to us. I think the best defense is a strong offense. I think we need to attack them in ways that will force them to reconsider their prejudices. But not this way. From my perspective it looks like you, LGsinmyheart, and a couple of others broke away from the pack and decided to do something rash and unplanned, and now it's going badly for you and you're looking for help.

Disengage. You've stirred up the hornet's nest to the point that you're only making it worse for yourself by continuing to jab at it.

Demosthenes

They had some great loss of an adult love as a child, or had it withheld from them completely, and now they are jealous of any child that does have it. The most disturbing part of it all is that while they are actively parading around and shouting about the evils of us, the truth is that they harbor secret hatred of children for having the love that they feel that they deserve, and us for giving it to children whom they wholely undeserving.

As far as playing games with them goes, however.. well, some of us are just watching them scurry around and letting them have enough rope to hang themselves with. When that particular subset of our numbers are ready, the real fun and games will begin.

Baldur

These assholes are lying. Others have discussed this before - even Winston's initial post was polite and informative. These Antis are liars, like all Antis before them - we cannot trust a word they say

Minstrel

As for calling people like that "bitch" and "asshole" and "brainless shit-head" and so on, in messages posted here:

"Words were made for use, and the fault lies in deserving them." - Thomas Paine

Enigma

You might not want to hear it, but you guys are LOSING on Blogspot because the antis have the market cornered on public relations. What can you do to present your side of the story any better? You heard them. They're not interested in debate. Neither is the average Joe who's browsing through

Why not register a non-profit organization called something like American Council for Sexual Values? It's a nice friendly name that sounds like it'd have a message a lot of antis want to hear. Of course, there's no explicit mention of just what kind of "sexual values" this organization would be advocating. Use it as a mouthpiece for studies done by folks like John Money, Judith Levine, Rind et al., and so forth. It's cheap to set up a non-profit organization, and as such, it could receive donations. Those donations could be used to fund political action committees, buy advertising on network television and newspapers, you name it. Nothing blatantly pro-pedophilia, of course. Just press releases such as "Studies show effect of sex during childhood can be positive." and "Correlation found between late age of first sexual experience and trouble with relationships in adult life." Get it into the public's consciousness that way, and that'll open the door a crack.

It's all about appearances. Instead of waiting for them to approve of our naked, honest appearance as we are (hell will freeze sooner), we must make them see us the way we want them to.

Is it dishonest? Yes. Is it manipulative? Yes. Is it mind control? Yes. Is it all the things we accuse them of doing against us? Yes. But we can't say we believe in our cause and then say we have to leave certain options off the table. If we really believe in what we're doing, if we really believe it's for the good of the children, then just as they will use any means at their disposal, so must we. If we want to win, we'll have to do what works, not what's fair or nice.

Love2uall

Daydreamer, you seem to be interested in politics and the injustices that are happening in this world.
I am also.
Please don't close your mind because something is relatively new to you and/or sounds anything other than what you are used to see or think.
Read Girl Chat for a while and you might see some quite interesting conversations there, and you'll also see we, for most of us, if not all of us there, are not necessarilly for sexual exploitation of children.

These are all people who want to claim the title "childlover" or girllover". Would you trust your child around that? Rookiee tried to reign them in, "this is not the way to gain acceptance" but it didn't stop them. They invited us to check them out. We did. We were horrified by what we found.

Enigma

Children can consent to being touched. This is obvious, except maybe to a daydreamer from Oz. If you ask a child "Do you want me to spank you?" she'll say no. Why? Because spanking doesn't feel good. Duh. Of course, most parents who spank their kids don't bother to get their consent in the matter, and even if the child says no, she'll most likely get spanked anyway. Now take a child who hasn't been taught by adults that pleasure is bad and dangerous. If you ask her "Do you want me to fondle you?" she'll say yes (assuming she likes you, of course!). Why? Because it feels good. Duh. If she hasn't been brainwashed with arbitrary ideas of "right" and "wrong," then of course she's going to assume that what feels good is right, and what feels bad is wrong. Makes sense, right? If only grownups could leave well enough alone.

If we're not loving children for self-serving reasons—and I don't believe most of us are—then we're loving them because we feel it's "for their own good." And there we have it: we're in the same boat as their parents. The only difference is that we have different ideas about what's in a child's best interest.

I told Rookiee back in the day

"Cough up Winston and I'll go away. Harbor him and pay the consequences"

Winston, just like Rookiee pushed the wrong buttons on the wrong person. He wanted attention. He should've listened to Rookiee when he said "Be careful what you wish for guys"

Of course, as always, there's a lesson to be learned here. Some might say it would be to not accost strangers on the internet. Some might say pedophile terrorism reached it's peak and we must remain watchful for the latest tactics. Some might say there's no going back after you open a can of worms. Either way - I win, they lose. They need to stay inside their pedo den and keep their filthy pedo mouths shut. And as always, Remember Winston Smith!

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