"If the police came knocking on my door"

Do you find it interesting when those that preach "tolerance" the loudest sometimes are the most intolerant? I do. Let's take a look at that.

Here is Daniel Thorlby aka Carrollingian.

He's just another filthy pedophile from GirlChat.

We wrote about his roommate Brother Chubba here

So what's so special abut Daniel? Well you see Daniel Thorlby is a member of the British National Party. A man who wants to molest little girls and be accepted for it running for office as a member of the BNP? That strikes me as a little odd personally. He's quite proud of the photos taken of him along side Nick Griffin. I wonder what Nick Griffin thinks of Daniel? Perhaps he just shakes his head and says "What a strange duck" but I think more likely he just doesn't know.... despite Daniel's assertions that he's "out" to everyone in his life.

I think Daniel Thorlby is just a typical pedophile who -- in his own words -- "pervs on girls" and fancies himself a writer. Yes a journalist, playwright, poet and pedo savior. He wrote a long essay and was published on IPCE -- "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation" Perhaps one day we'll see his books on Amazon.com - the primary distributor of pedophile propaganda.

Daniel Thorlby is in fact such a brilliant politician that he came up with several different plans for pedo activism. One included all pedophiles doing something to get themselves fired so they could all be supported by the state -- and since there are so many pedophiles you know it would financially ruin the taxpayers. I guess that will show them eh? Wonder if he ran his theory by Nick Griffin the head of the BNP?

Between Daniel and his roomie Steve they say they've met several pedophiles at their home. From Tom O'Carroll to Foreverman, Docter Marten and Seamus. Who are those people? Well we know Tom of course. Let's try to find out the others, shall we?

Daniel has gone so far in fact that he has devised a plan for a pedophile army. He called it the PLO as in Paedophile Liberation Organization.

My fantasy at the moment is to form a paedophile army, then to stage a demonstration for pro-paedophilia in the middle of some big city. All those paedophobic bastards who come out to throw rocks at us and shoot us, and all the police who come to break us up etc. will then be legitimate targets for all of the PLO (paedophile liberation organization) snipers that are staged around the area.

And this will only be legitimate because there is NO OTHER WAY. Paedophiles do not WANT to be violent. But what other option is there. We are still RIGHT. Just because all other options for paedophile liberation have been exhausted, does not mean we have stopped being RIGHT. We must continue to do something!...

Now back to reality. If the police came knocking on my door, I would take a few of them down with me. I think I've said this before. Be warned, Mike.

Well naturally I can see what he's saying, there's simply NO OTHER WAY. They don't really WANT to be violent, they don't really WANT to be snipers, they don't really WANT to take out the police if they come knocking at their door. But really now, it appears there is no other way.

Visit Wikisposure and read about Daniel Thorlby. But be warned the article contains especially disturbing subject matter. Reader discretion is advised.

Free Speech, Ignorance or Wickedness? You Decide

What is up with Amazon you may be asking yourself. I'd like to take a moment to explain. Amazon apparently doesn't like being told what they should and shouldn't sell. They are being quite stubborn as a matter of fact. But what's interesting here is that while they claim FREE SPEECH as the reason for harboring and selling the words of an admitted child molester, they are censoring their customers comments.

And as if that weren't enough, their own publishing company BookSurge has removed this book from distribution. Wonder why? And yet Amazon, continues to sell the iUniverse copy of Viamund's book. This is quite telling isn't it? iUniverse cancelled their contract with Viamund after realizing what it was that had been printed.....BookSurge is with the program enough to know they need to get rid of that book quickly. Only Amazon is stupid? wicked? thoughtless? enough to continue selling it. Well....attempting to sell it. Interesting that they will turn their back on their own responsibility in order to offer a book for sale that has dropped in ranking from 384,000 to almost 2 millionth in the space of two weeks. Thank you everyone who has helped with this!

I received this email from iUniverse today:

Dear Stitches 77,

Thank you for your e-mail and concern regarding the book Viamund the Boy-Love Vampyre Says. Once the content of the this particular book was revealed we took action to cancel the title.

We are working with sites, in which we directly distribute title information, to completely remove the title; however, due to proprietary information we do not release sales information on any of our titles.

Again, thank you for your concern.

Regards,
Lori Kaser
Post Publishing Services Supervisor
iUniverse, Inc.

How interesting! Amazon is also offering the book in defiance of the publisher. I believe it will be gone completely within a couple of weeks at the most. Does that make what Amazon did 'ok' to you? The way I see it.....Amazon thumbed their noses at children, then they proceeded to censor our comments claiming they opposed censorship, then they wisely withdrew the edition that their own publisher printed while offering the edition of their competitor for sale. Hmm.

Nah, I think I can live without them. What it has come down to is that Amazon cannot reform itself. When the book disappears from Amazon it won't be because of them, it will be because iUniverse was successful in retrieving all copies. By the way iUniverse is owned by Barnes & Noble the first book seller to respond to our request. They have my current and future support.

Be sure and check the following updates as some have changed. He's also stealing the work of anyone who has blogged about this and posting it on his other blogs. You need to be aware of where to find his thievery!




Viamund Blog ~ Decimated by Blogger
Viamund Next Civilization Blog ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund the Rake ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund Archive Blog ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund Targeted-Discrimination ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund MySpace ~ Captured by an anti
RingsWorld ~ Mission Complete
Vibe ~ Mission Complete
VampireFreaks ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund the Rake Blogger ~ Captured by an anti
Meetmeinto ~ Mission Complete
Viamunds World Vision ~ Mission Complete
Viamunds Boycott List ~ Mission Complete
Viamund Blog ~ Mission Complete
Viamund Under Ground Blog ~ Mission Complete
Viamund Archives Blog ~ MISSION COMPLETE

V-I-A-M-U-N-D ~ Captured by an Anti

Viamund the Rake blogger ~ Captured by an Anti

Viamund the RAKE restored it AGAIN HERE and commenced to copy entire blog posts of other bloggers there. You might want to check it and see if he's violated YOU.
Here is the blog in question viamund-t-h-e-rake and you may report it HERE

Meetmeinto #2 ~ Report it HERE

Meetmeinto #3 ~ Report it HERE

MySpace #2 ~ Report it HERE

These sites may not seem to be so important at first glance. Until you know some of the things he's said about them. For example on the now defunct My Silent War blog Viamund said:

"The internet is a tool that is meant to be used for all manner of things. Personally I use it for research, activism, gaming and certainly online dating. I date boys aged 14 - 18 and I have met all my lovers over the past 6 years exclusively through internet dating sites."

Viamund YouTube ~ Report it HERE

Viamund Book Ad Blog ~ Report it HERE

Viamund ever defiant, restored his blogs AGAIN

Attempting to achieve his goals ~ and
Viamunds Boycott List ~ and
Attack against free services ~ and
Attempt to implement laws ~ has copied entire Anti blogs here
Show no mercy

Report them all HERE

Viamund Updates ~ Amazon Guilty as Charged

We got a very helpful email through our website today. Anyone wanting to leave a comment not viewable on the blog, you can contact us HERE. Let's look at this latest email and see what we can figure out about Amazon.....

"I have been following your "Boycott Amazon" campaign. I sent them an email on Thursday night (well, early Friday morning) regarding "the Rake's" book. That evening they had 2 listings for the book, one which had 9 negative reviews. Today the listing with the negative reviews has been made unavailable....... I am trying to find a cached version of the first page, but I thought I would let you know in case you had one and wanted to highlight this effort by Amazon to quash any negative publicity about this so-called "book". Even though I am a Prime Member and spend a significant amount of money on Amazon each year (not any more!), they responded to me with a similar form letter regarding their policies on censorship.

Now we see that while they don't believe in censoring material they offer, they don't have a problem with censoring their reviewers.

None of the comments were offensive (i.e. containing obscene language), they just exposed this book for the trash that it is. I am also planning to write letters to several major newspapers in my area and also try to contact Amazon's investors.

Keep up the good work!"

Wow! Amazon Expose at it's finest! Amazon wouldn't remove a child molesters book, claiming they opposed censorship, but they WILL censor your comments about it. Isn't that interesting? Their refusal to remove it wasn't about the protection of free speech AT ALL! It was about harboring child predators. And they are GUILTY as charged!

Look at the link again. The search results for the book. The only one showing available for purchase is the one published by iUniverse in association with Barnes & Noble. They cancelled their contract with Viamund after the first few copies were printed. Viamund then moved on to BookSurge (owned by Amazon) who published his book then distributed it through Amazon! Now that the heat is on them, and after they have claimed to oppose censorship of any kind, this is their response?

How exactly did they respond to this Boycott against them?? By censoring your reviews!!

While at first glance it may look like a victory. They did remove the book they allowed him to self-publish through BookSurge, afterall. Yet they are STILL selling the other copy. Therefore, to me at least, this looks to be a clear case of Amazon doing the very thing they used to rationalize the distribution of a child predators advocation of child molestation. The Boycott Amazon! campaign continues.

If you've found yourself wondering what's in this book, here's a little sample of his poetry, should we analyze it? Perhaps it speaks for itself.

Who says you're living in the past?
If history repeats itself
it means you're also living in the future.
Cop a feel
for the future,
little boy

and another

Yell, yell, yelling
that persistent voice.
I'm claiming freedom,
No more the cramped, dingy room.
I got my dynamite
and my fly is open.

Now enough of that rubbish, onto the Viamund updates:

Thanks to everyone who has helped by reporting and complaining about Viamund. As you can see he doesn't stop. There is still much work to be done. We will post all updates here.

Viamund Blog ~ Decimated by Blogger
Viamund Next Civilization Blog ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund the Rake ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund Archive Blog ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund Targeted-Discrimination ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund MySpace ~ Captured by an anti
RingsWorld ~ Mission Complete
Vibe ~ Mission Complete
VampireFreaks ~ Captured by an anti
Viamund the Rake Blogger ~ Captured by an anti
Meetmeinto ~ Mission Complete
Viamunds World Vision ~ Mission Complete
Viamunds Boycott List ~ Mission Complete
Viamund Blog ~ Mission Complete
Viamund Under Ground Blog ~ Mission Complete
Viamund Archives Blog ~ MISSION COMPLETE

V-I-A-M-U-N-D ~ Captured by an Anti

Viamund the RAKE restored it HERE and commenced to copy entire blog posts of other bloggers there. You might want to check it and see if he's violated YOU.
Here is the blog in question viamundrake and you may report it HERE


MySpace #2 ~ Report it HERE

Meetmeinto #2 ~ Report it HERE

Meetmeinto #3 ~ Report it HERE

Viamund YouTube ~ Report it HERE

Viamund Book Ad Blog ~ Report it HERE

Viamund ever defiant, restored his blogs AGAIN

Attempting to achieve his goals ~ and
Viamunds Boycott List ~ and
Attack against free services ~ and
Attempt to implement laws ~ has copied entire Anti blogs here
Show no mercy

Report them all HERE




Read about Amazon's history with NAMBLA North American Man/Boy Love Association HERE you'll be very surprised, disgusted and glad you've chosen to BoycottAmazon!

HT to Jacey

He's a Rake

Viamund the Rake aka Octaevius Altair from Toronto says that "I am "OUT" as a same-gender oriented paedophile/ephebephile (Boylover) & it is this state that enables me to live a fulfilled & contented life. I am a member of the North American Man/Boy Love association." NAMBLA

We know what a pedophile is. We know what a Boylover claims to be. What is a rake?

a man who is unrestrained by convention or morality
a man leading a dissolute life
a man lacking restraint
a man with lowered moral character or standards
a man characterized by self-indulgence
a man who acts with deliberate disregard for other's rights

This Rake claims to be attracted to, and have sexual relations with boys who are 14 years old. Interesting that Canada's Age of Consent was 14. You think he may be fibbing a little? Think he might like 'em 13 too? Or 12? How about 11? When Canada recently passed legislation to raise the age of consent from 14 to 16, the Rake had this to say:

I have always courted/dated and engaged in sexual relations with boys as young as 14 years old and I have every intention of continuing to do so. I will not permit this legislation to affect me and am prepared to defend my position at any time.

He entered the new year with a call for pedo-activism and a pledge for more aggressive measures. He says:

Show no mercy. Let your mind be a fortress and your voice and actions be the means to guarantee only the positive aspects of HUMANITY are permitted to proceed forward through the cycle of time. To our evil enemies : Know that the darkness of superstition that you represent will never be permitted to triumph over the light of reason that we represent. Surrender now.

And I repeat the same to him.

Let us talk about his book. Viamund the Boylove Vampyre Says...: Poetry & Haiku's by Octaevius Altair and what it's about.

"The use of raw, un-tempered, often brutal images of word convey the thoughts of the lonely, socially-isolated individuals who are held primarily in contempt; nonetheless existing on the sexual fringe. To provide vision to those who appreciate the differences that are humanity."

It is the story of an 11 year old boy prostitute/vampire and the man he "posing as father and son while traveling and slaying" was master of. Viamund is the man of course.

Not surprising at all is the fact that Viamund had a very difficult time finding a publisher. CafePress, Lulu.com, PABD, iUniverse all refused him. His British contact agreed with Lulu that the material was illegal. The ACLU refused to take his case stating they cannot MAKE someone print your book if they don't wish to. Picture Postage in Canada refused to produce his postage stamps claiming his image was inappropriate on a stamp. Some of the responses he received were:

- marketing products that may promote indecent relationships between adults and
minors is strictly prohibited
- If you do not agree with the rules outlined in the agreement then we suggest you
find another means to publish your book
- the material is ILLEGAL and a threat to the American public

Not only did places like CafePress delete his merchandise, but PoetryAmerica.com and even online dating sites and places like VampireFreaks banned him. To which he replied:

They BLOCKED my IP address but I have a mutable I.P. that changes of its own accord on a constant basis. I can therefore NEVER be blocked from any site.

So not only is he repulsive, evil and dangerous, he's stupid too. He doesn't take no for an answer. He has no regard for law and order either. He has no respect for others. He is self-absorbed. (Sound familiar?) He will have sex with young boys no matter what the law says. He said so himself. He exhibits anti-social behavior. He is a Rake, after all. He will go into websites, forums and game rooms that don't want him and try to force himself upon them. Here's a timely example.

ACME made a call for bloggers to flag and report his blog. Blogger removed parts of his blog. The very same day he reposted the offending material. And says:

This BLOG was improperly deleted by a staff member at BLOGGER who claimed it violated their Terms of Service. Somebody at BLOGGER has decided to take the law into their own hands - typical behavior of vigilantes -. I am still awaiting your official response BLOGGER to discover which of your staff are violating laws. In the meantime I will repost everything that was deleted on a separate ARCHIVE BLOG.

Violating laws?? Viamund the Rake is complaining about someone violating laws? HUH? Blogger is a free service that everyone is fortunate enough to be able to use. In other words, they have guidelines that they use. Their TOS. But they also don't have to abide by them. It is their service after all. They can close Blogger tomorrow if they wish. They also aren't required to explain themselves to you. Don't abuse it and you won't lose it generally works. It's fairly simple.

Now about that book....You will find several smaller online booksellers who have it listed. But it is not in stock and they will not fill your order. Here are some of the people who have responded to our complaints swiftly and are refusing to sell this book:

• Barnes & Noble
• Target
• Books-A-Million
• TextbookX
• Buy.com

And this is who hasn't: Alibris and Amazon.

Alibris is selling this book through association with Amazon.com who values free speech.

AbsoluteZero values free speech also. However we do know that the First Amendment was not written with the purpose of anything goes. In fact the Supreme Court has made clear that the First Amendment does not extend to OBSCENITY. Amazon is more than aware of the contents of this book. They don't want to get involved. The only way we will ever make a difference is to adopt a zero tolerance attitude towards child predators and those that advocate it.

I naively assumed that once Amazon was made aware of what they were selling they would refuse to be associated with it. That was before I discovered that the book was published by a subsidiary of Amazon - called BookSurge - a self-publishing / publish-on-demand service.

I suppose with Amazon.com it comes down to the almighty dollar. In my opinion Amazon has SOLD OUT. There are book stores in every city in every state. Choosing not to PUBLISH and DISTRIBUTE garbage does not make them guilty of censorship. Burning books would be censorship. There's a huge difference here. I support the book stores listed above for their integrity and sense of responsibility to the community. And while I have been shopping at Amazon for about 10 years now, I will never spend one more penny in that store as long as they are carrying that book that advocates and promotes the abuse of children. Please let Amazon know how you feel and add this to your webspace.


Copy and paste the code below to add the logo to your page:

<br /><br /><a href="http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2007/02/hes-rake.html"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5885/2160/320/996316/BoycottAmazon.png" border="0" title="Boycott Amazon!" alt="Boycott Amazon!" width="175" /></a><br />

Then visit his other blogs and flag those that remain. His profile is HERE and you may tell Blogger how you feel HERE.

UPDATE:

Amazon is still sending out form letters as outraged customers drop like flies. If you haven't yet, please send your thoughts on the book to AMAZON. And while you're at it let their sponsors know that their Post breakfast cereal is being used to advertise a child molester!

Contact Kraft and Post (owned by Kraft)
Contact Maxwell House

See LILO for more details.

All future Viamund updates will be located here

Boycott Amazon.com

Amazon.com has a book for sale called "Viamund the Boylove Vampyre Says...: Poetry & Haiku's by Octaevius Altair". This book is written by an admitted pedophile and child molester (Viamund the rake), and contains pictures and writings about an 11 year old boy who has sex is raped by "Viamund" - who is admittedly 37 years old in real life.

This book promotes child sex/rape and pedophilia, and it is written by an admitted child molester.

Amazon.com refuses to remove it from it's web site. The excuse they use? "Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to display certain articles because we believe their message is objectionable."

Written advocacy of child/adult sex is illegal in Canada, Australia and some parts of Europe. Creation, distribution and possession are all federal crimes in these countries. I sure hope Amazon.com doesn't sell this book to any customers in these countries.

Several online book sellers have had this book listed. After being contacted about this book they have all removed it or are refusing to stock the book. These sellers are:

• Target
• Barnes and Noble
• Buy.com
• TextbookX
• Books-A-Million

Why does Amazon refuse to remove this book?

When I emailed Amazon and asked to have my account closed, they responded by saying, "Your loyalty to our company for the past is greatly appreciated, and this loyalty is one of the reasons I am attempting to correct an honest misunderstanding. Although I understand that you requested your account be closed, I sincerely hope that my efforts to correct this misunderstanding have been satisfactory. However, if you still wish to close your account, please visit the following link to submit your request..."

Hmmm, I guess they thought it was a misunderstanding when I told them, "You have refused numerous email requests to remove this book. Your responses disgust me."

And I don't see how they could "misunderstand" me when I wrote, "Not only am I cancelling my membership, but I will also make sure that everyone I know is informed of your inexcusable behavior. So you will be receiving many more requests for cancellations in the near future. I expect a response to this confirming my cancellation.

I won't say thank you, so instead I'll end by saying good riddance."

I made sure that they didn't "misunderstand" me when I had to request my account to be closed a second time. What do you think, is this clear enough? ...

"I will NEVER open another account with you again. I find your policies disgusting and your reasons for them pathetic and vile. I am beginning to wonder if you have a pedophile running this organization. Do you realize that you are the only company IN THE ENTIRE WORLD that I know of that even sells this book?!"

And just who did publish this book anyway? Well, it was BookSurge.

And what types of authors and books are typically published? Well, here's a description..

"the primary driving force of BookSurge is our customers. In every interaction, we strive to exceed expectations, listen and respond with a caring staff, thorough information, relevant products and quality services. As a result, BookSurge has doubled in size and capacity this year, and we continue to innovate the industry with a new vision, unique programs and unparalleled opportunities."

Quality? New Vision? Adult-child sex is quality? Child-sex is illegal.

There are other self publishing companies out there that don't publish this book. Some of them are:

• Lulu
• PABD
• Cafepress
  

I urge everyone to boycott Amazon.com. If you have a membership, please cancel it. This is not an issue of free speech. It's an issue of child predators going mainstream and publishing child sex/rape stories. We need to send an urgent message that this will NOT be tolerated. EVER.

Amazon.com will never see another dollar from me. There are many other choices out there. I suggest using one of the book stores listed here who actually removed the book. Support their admirable choice to stop selling this book by giving them your business.

Cross posted at Warriors For Innocence

Amazon: When it Rains, It Pours

What does Boylove (you know, the sexual exploitation of underage boys by pedophiles) have to do with some of your favorite grocery products? Well, evidently more than one would like.

Amazon.com is offering a pedophile book: Viamund the Boylove Vampyre Says...: Poetry & Haiku's (Paperback)by Octaevius Altair, for sale on it's website. And, interestingly it seems that while Amazon is claiming freedom of expression, and their need to provide a voice to different authors of all backgrounds as it's reason for offering the book... the companies in the following Amazon ad just want to get exposure for their products, even if it means doing on a site that is openly promoting pedophilia propaganda.

Save with Instant Rebates in Grocery
Save today with instant rebates on your favorite brands--Kraft,
Maxwell House, Post, and more than 20 more. Offers valid through February 28.

Yes, that's right folks, these companies are paying Amazon to show their ads, and therefore are directly encouraging Amazon's choice to sell this book.


Thankfully, we don't drink Maxwell House in THIS house, because I buy the coffee around here. And, although I've always liked Post, I'm sure that I can find another brand of cereal for the kids breakfast. Kraft might be a little more difficult to replace, but if they are willing to pay Amazon to run ads on product pages that encourage the sexual exploitation of children- I'm not willing to feed my family their products.

Now, in all fairness, it could be that Amazon isn't really aware of the subject matter of this book filth. After all, Amazon is a huge online company, offering a huge amount of products, and certainly we can not expect them to inspect each and every one of them.

It could be that they aren't aware... but they are. We know that they are aware of the subject and content, because they were contacted about it. Sadly, it seems that they just don't care.

In fact their response to a fellow blogger who contacted them was firmly supportive of the keeping this filth available, From Gawfer

Thank you for writing to Amazon.com.As a retailer, our goal is to provide customers with the broadest selection possible so they can find, discover, and buy any item they might be seeking. That selection includes some items which many people may find objectionable. Therefore, the items offered on our web site represent a wide spectrum of opinions on a variety of topics.Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to display certain articles because we believe their message is objectionable.

There is more to the response, so please head over to read the full thing. I'm sure you will be just as shocked as I was.

Now, in fairness, before I ask you to blindly make prompt decisions about this problem- you need to know just what sort of issue we are dealing with. For this, I'll need you to read a little about this propaganda. Please read the entire post by AZ, as it is important that we hold these companies which would endorse the sexual exploitation of children, in order to line their own pockets; just how we feel about this.

And, until Amazon, Kraft, Post and Maxwell House are willing to stop endorsing this book by selling it, or by supporting the company which is selling it- please take a moment and let them know just where you stand on pedophilia propaganda being openly advertised and sold.

Contact Kraft and Post (owned by Kraft)
Contact Maxwell House
Contact Amazon

Big H/T to Kate for mentioning this.

UPDATE: Here is the response from Amazon.com to me:

"Amazon.com Customer Service"

Thank you for writing to Amazon.com with your comments about the listing of "Viamund the Boylove."

I realize that you have been greatly inconvenienced by this situation. Please know that you are a valued customer of Amazon.com, and I am very sorry if the listing of this product has caused you any offense.

Please note that, customer service is not in a position to make changes to web site features or functions. Likewise, we cannot make promises that other departments will make changes at our request. The most we can do is to be sure that your comments are forwarded to those who have these responsibilities.

Rest assured that we have forwarded your comments to appropriate department in our company for consideration to remove the item from our web site.

Please know that we do take the feedback very seriously. Strong customer feedback like yours helps us continue to improve the selection and service we provide, and we appreciate the time you took to write to us.

Please let me assure you that we have done so. I hope you will understand our limitations in this regard.

Thank you for your understanding. We hope to see you again at Amazon.com.

UPDATE:

Found the pedo freak's MySpace Report it here.
And Blogger Profile Report it here.
And his ringsworld page Report it here.
And his Vampire Freaks Page Report it here.
And his MeetMeInTo Verison Report it here.
And his Vibe Page
And his Boywiki Page- where he asks that boyrapist go support NAMBLA

And his new blogs on which he posts all the material that Blogger deleted and boasts the claim that he will wreak havoc on all who refuse him free service located Here Here and Here Make report HERE

Posted on behalf of: LostinLimaOhio