Ulterior Motives

Reposted from July 19, 2007

Perverts have a new plan, yeah. They have a petition they want people to sign. But before we take a look at what's on it, let's see what a pervert is:






Here we have Unico


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He tells us clearly what he thinks about little girls, doesn't he?







And here we have Abraxas

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He strongly supports this petition.


An Urgent Call to Support the Well-Being of Children and the Rights of Us All

1. Abolish all provisions of state and Federal sex offender registries that publicly shame offenders. There should be no internet or other public posting of the identity, photograph, address, workplace or personal information of any offender.......
   In cases of genuinely violent sex crimes, especially against young children, and with a specific finding of a likelihood to re-offend, registration may be required, but information will be shared only among police officials.........
   Strong penalties should be levied against police or others privy to the registration information who violate the privacy of the offenders



2. Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders who have completed prison sentences and/or parole and probation
   In cases of violent offenses and specific findings of a likelihood to re-offend, carefully constructed court hearings, with medical advice and full due process, should determine if the person may be further incarcerated, and then only for a short time and with regular review



3. Stop public vilification and demonization of sex offenders. Oppose the use in the media or by public officials of obviously pejorative language with regard to offenders. Use of the term "pedophile" should be extremely limited and accurate. Children should be defined as persons under the age of puberty.



4. De-criminalize all consensual sexual activities among teenagers. Stop all required sex offender registration for minors



5. Abolish all laws that provide the death penalty or life in prison without parole for sex offenders.



6. Support broad sex education for children, and empower them to make their own decisions and stand up for their rights



7. Provide accurate information and support valid research about sex offender characteristics and recidivism rates



8. Help sex offenders re-enter society by abolishing measures which make it difficult for them to find a place to live and a decent job. Encourage support groups for sex offenders, including help with finding housing, employment and effective treatment, before their release and afterward

Yes, Abraxas likes it.......sorta

" Though this reform does not go far enough--none has yet for me--it is a great beginning toward common sense and justice.

THIS IS A MUST READ!"



I wonder what Jessica Lundsford would think of all that?




Or Dylan Groen?

Or all the people walking this earth today who are carrying the scars left by men who think of them as throw-away objects.

Yes, I wonder what they think of this petition.

But I think we may have an answer from the pen of one of GirlChat's finest. The infamous Turtle explains what they all show us everyday........the scorn they feel for CSA survivors.



"why do i read posts by angry "christian" women that go on and on about how sick and evil it is and how their lives were ruined?

are you that weak minded? do you have to find someone else to blame for your own personal failures?

it was one event,it shouldnt ruin your life. kids in other countries live through much worse. stop whining,and put the blame where it belongs:on your own shoulders. sex is a beautiful thing and only becomes perverted when you decide that it is perverted"


95% of all child molestations are committed by pedophiles. Pedophiles mock society, they mock children, they mock parents and they mock sex abuse victims. They have nothing to offer this world but misery and heartache. They are all filthy pedophiles. And if they try to pull the number on you...."they just LOVE children, oh no they aren't the child molesters..........they are the true child lovers" well you can rest assured that they are LYING. It's one of the things they do best.

Trucker says ~ TOOT TOOT ~ Pedos Unite!

We've talked a lot lately about registered sex offender activists and how they all talk out both sides of their mouth.

On the one hand they say there's a difference in types of offenders and the law should recognize that, on the other hand Jackie Sparling the COO of SoClear Media Production says

"whether you or your loved one was charged with CP, got caught in a Romeo/Juliet type situation, or was charged with sexual assault/rape doesn't even come into play with our organization"

They also say that child molesters shouldn't be treated as criminals, they should be given treatment instead. Treatment which has proven to have a very poor overall success rate, I might add. Let's look at a perfect example of that.


Trucker of GirlChat has been trying really hard to get our attention lately. He wants all Pedos to UNITE!

He very helpfully encourages the pedoheads, he says

TOOT TOOT!

And sometimes he says

WOOT WOOT!

But mostly what he says is pedocrap, as we shall see.

You see, Trucker says he spent 3 years in a prison for sexually violent predators. He says he spent 5 years in sex offender treatment. He says he had an addiction to child pornography. He says he realizes he did it out of lust for little girls rather than love. So now, after completing his treatment - which he says included chemical castration, among other things - here he is on GirlChat plotting and planning and UNDOING all his treatment.

"I'm here to have most of that treatment undone because I never really believed that being in relationships with children is a horrible thing."

Trucker had this to say about the Sex Offender Treatment Program:

SOTPs are extremely ineffective in reducing recidivism, and actually cause it in some cases

I remember being in an outpatient SOTP, and in just two months there were four guys out of eight in my group session who were violated by their POs for legitimate sex crimes

many sex offenders do not want to be treated. They feel they've done nothing wrong, despite the severity of the crime

there's something inside of me that refuses to allow me to reject my pedophilia. I know there is something better for us than child abuse or persecution through law and therapy because I believe that everyone has the right to be sexual, regardless of race or age. I would like the law and therapists to see that someday and work with us to really reduce child sexual abuse.

He also makes the same sort of statement we've seen the likes of Shirley Lowery and other SOSEN and Roar4Freedom members make regarding child pornography

"Has anyone been murdered in the production and distribution? Sure children may have been abused, but abuse can be overcome if one doesn't allow both the abuse and the abuser to have sway over the rest of one's life"

That is a rationalization. Yes it may be abuse.....BUT there's worse things that could happen. Sound familiar? I sincerely don't believe that GirlChat would be approved as therapeutic for this crazed registered sex offender known as Trucker. He is a ticking time bomb. And it just so happens that he is also a bright and shining example of Pedophile! Pervert! Predator! Registered Sex Offender!

Trucker wants ideas on how to make baby raping socially acceptable

"I see a major barrier in our movement being that society perceives children to be "innocent" and therefore must be shielded from "impure" acts such as sex. So how should children be made to be not as innocent as society deems them as?"

That wasn't very bright of Trucker. I also don't believe it was very smart of him to mock one of our Thrivers, Violet Leaves. In fact, it was downright stupid to call her the names he did. Violet and AZUBRD are living breathing surviving thriving witnesses to what pedophiles are, what they do, how they operate.

I understand you wanted some attention, Trucker.

"the reason why AZ and PJ won't post THEIR addresses or show their faces is because they'd have a big-rig through their homes the next day. There are plenty of truckers who'd love to tie those guys on both ends to the DOT bumpers and hit 10th gear. And nobody would ever find them again. I discovered that truckers can be like that if needed."

Trucker, you may hereby consider yourself ON NOTICE

Graphics courtesy of Jacey

W.A.S.P. and the Columbus Ohio Rally

Cross Posted from WASP

On December 1st I arrived to a weak opposition. There was approximately 30 (maybe 40 if they were lucky) people who attended SoClears rally. This includes the speakers. I didn't get to hear the speakers though. Even though I was right behind them I couldn't hear much at all except when the Rev. yelled "That is MY son". I guess SoClear didn't want to turn the speakers up so everyone could hear their message, just the small gathering of felons, I mean supporters, that were there.

There were NO legislators or polititians who were bored enough to attend their rally. Even the 16,316 registered sex offenders in Ohio didn't bother to accept SOSEN's personal invitation.

(Well, except for The Fallen One from Cincinnati. This convicted pedophile made it a point to make his presence known.)

First Name: DEREK
Middle Name: W
Last Name: LOGUE

PREDATOR!!!!!

Home Address
2559 EDEN AV #14
CINCINNATI, OH 45219-2282

Physical Characteristics
Gender: Male
Race: White

Quivering lips and crooked teeth

Hair: Black
Eye: Brown
Height: 6'0"
DOB: 10/31/1976

or as we seen him:

So much for Margie Slagles comment to me that child molestors would not be there. But here is Margie (in purple coat) and her lawyer buddies talking to Judy Cornett (Nationally known advocate for victims of sexual abuse). You didn't see that coming did ya Margie?

Tom himself was shaken by her presence. He stammered in his speech and dropped his papers. Here is a sampling of what they were so afraid of:

Click here: The Bleepin Truth TV Show

But we knew there would be other pedophiles there like Betty's husband. The Price's looked like homeless people. Only God knows why she would want to defend someone like him.

This is Betty with another sex offender.

Looks like she "picked" a good one to talk to! LOL

Here is her husband... another "great" pick

There was news channel 4 (NBC), who did a small peice on the news but they must have felt that SoClears message wasn't that important to post it on the web.
The local newspaper the Columbus Dispatch ran an article (section B page 4... basically not important enough for at least sec. B pg1) that SoClear presented their views while ignoring Boo's from the protestors.

( I was the only person who was yelling by the way. I must have yelled a total of 5 times during the 3 hour borefest. I yelled "Cry Me A River, Sex Offender" )

The article presented Tom Madison as a liar when they couldn't find him on the registry. Wouldn't it have been nice to see that Tommy Boy likes teen girls plastered all over?

The reporter went on to say that the opposition showed little sympathy, and quoted a woman as saying that sex offenders should have no rights at all.

Then SOSEN members took it upon themselves to try to dig up information on this woman and plaster it all over the web. Were they hoping some crazy sex offender buddy would go after her? Way to go SOSEN! I've been in contact with this woman, and things don't look good for you! Can you say LAWSUIT?

This woman didn't even know your websites or groups even existed let alone contact you in the first place, yet you choose to attack her because of a comment in the newspaper. Now who is acting like a vigilante? I would like to thank SOSEN and Mike for the new WASP member!

There was also a rumor started that the only reason BACA was there was because they were "misrepresented" by WASP. Does this look like BACA doesn't want anything to do with me?

Oh yeah... and as far as someone from the protest leaving our side and telling the teen she was sorry about her brother, and taking some of your information...... DUH! Thanks for the information. Here is a pic of my sister (in black coat) getting your free information! Thanks sis!

Did you happen to notice on the back of the Human Rights Watch book you handed out that they said 25% of adults reoffend? Didn't see if they had a stat for juveniles because I have better things to do than read that junk, but that kinda blows your 3.5% stat now doesn't it?

I would just like to point out that Sex offenders wives are UGLY! That is probably why they defend them, because they can't get anyone else! Isn't that right Jackie and Linda?

I would also like to say to the photographer from “various small newspapers”…

Hey! I’m still waiting for those photos! I’m also sad that I missed the opportunity to meet Jackie, although I don’t want her John Hancock. I’m also sorry I didn’t get to see my “buddy” Mike. I made a special poster for him. Here is a pic just for you!

SoClear and SOSEN are deluding themselves if they think that lawmakers are going to take them serious. The entire organization consists of sexual abusers of children and their families (except for Ali... but she is on the wrong side of the fence if she wants to help her brother). (Other than Ali) I didn't see one person there that was convicted for urinating in public or a Romeo and Juliet situation. Do you really think they are gonna leave the wolf in charge of the sheep?

I think I am done dealing with these people. They are a waste of my time because they are no real threat.

Be Proactive, And Not Reactive !

Women Against Sexual Predators

Anything you say may be used against you

U.S. criminal investigator Flint Waters works undercover in the war on child pornography. And just like the other 800 licensed investigators working the internet, he goes for stress counseling often. Is it any wonder why? He describes some of the recent things he's found.

"A video of a toddler on a changing table who is penetrated by an adult male."

"Pictures of a young girl, 6 or 7 years old, nude, tied to a chair and being penetrated by a dog."

But Jenn aka Forlorn would have you believe that men who view those types of images should be given a slap on the wrist. After all, the viewer didn't commit an act of violence, and well it's pretty much a victimless crime isn't it? Of course Jenn would say that, her brother is entering federal prison in January on child pornography charges. He's so depressed, why he's absolutely suicidal.

"they can get through prison... can they truly get through everything else that's done to them? can they recover fully from losing everything they had?"

Jenn, like other blame gamers tends to gloss over the reality of what child pornography really is. Perhaps she stays in denial because she's not strong enough to face it. I imagine that would be hard to do. Facing the ugliness of what your loved one did. The problem is that Jenn has decided she's going to be an activist. Oh yes, she's just getting started. Why she even says "i have made up my mind on the issues based on facts". Jenn is making the same mistake the blame gamers and the pedoheads have made....she's not being honest.

For example, in her mile long, book length essay she left in a comment here - there's little gems to be found. Like this one:

these people can't help who they are as a result of genetics, but science and medicine can make strong attempts to set right what nature made wrong

some people are not born with the ability to refrain from acting out on thoughts or making bad decisions.... that can happen with severe clinical depression and other mental illnesses.... when the rest of us are 'firing' normally, they aren't capable of it.

But I have to hand it to her, she does attempt to explain her reasoning

if your neighbor writes bad checks constantly, and you accidentally over draw your account just one time, would you like to be told you can never write another check again because your neighbor screwed up so much that they don't trust anyone writing checks again?? it isn't right or fair, is it?

We're talking about sexual abuse of children Jenn. How dare you compare that to writing a bad check?

i certainly do not condone child or adult rape or child molestation. i just know that there are reasons why people make bad decisions when it comes to doing something like this... and that those reasons need to be addressed and fixed.

i don't think prison or constant civil punishment is the answer. we know that violent sexual offenders, that is, predatory violent offenders, are the minority of sex offenders. should we really continuously punish ALL of them?

Why is it acceptable to imprison someone who commits an act of sexual violence, but it's not acceptable to imprison the man who abuses his victims by manipulating and grooming them? I wonder why Jenn would feel that victims of this type of abuse aren't damaged to the same extent as the person who is violently abused? Does she not understand that the effects can actually be as bad or worse? Well, obviously not. And she obviously feels that looking at children being sexually abused is a crime not worthy of consequences. She asks the blame gamers their position on the issue

"i am very unclear about the position of SO advocate groups on CP offenders. are they including this group in the 'low-risk, non-violent' category in their fight to change SO laws?"

And gets a response from Jackie Sparling, Chief Operations Officer of SoClear Media Productions explains

"As SO Clears Chief Operations Officer, let me assure you that while we in no way support any groups such as NAMBLA, or anyone who believes that having sex with pre-pubescent children is right, we do not delineate between each "sex crime" and determine which person or person(s) we wish to repeal these laws for.

Whether you or your loved one was charged with CP, got caught in a Romeo/Juliet type situation, or was charged with sexual assault/rape doesn't even come into play with our organization. We are interested in helping to create SOLUTIONS, not more problems."

I found that interesting since that's not what Tom Madison has said. But we knew he was a liar didn't we? Read more about men who use child pornography HERE and HERE. Or take a look at Julian Dennis Godwin aka Harvardphd123 of Roar for Freedom. Or Johnny Ray Lee or Andrew Spedden. It seems lots of these activists have had and do have a problem with child pornography.

Dr Seto says

people are likely to choose the kind of pornography that corresponds to their sexual interests, so relatively few nonpedophilic men would choose illegal child pornography given the abundance of legal pornography that depicts adults

And what do these men look at?

• 83% had images of children between the ages of 6 and 12
• 39% had images of 3 to 5 year old children
• 19% had images of toddlers or infants younger than 3
• 92% had images of minors focusing on genitals or showing explicit sexual activity
• 80% had pictures showing the sexual penetration of a child, including oral sex
• 21% had child pornography depicting violence such as bondage, rape, or torture. Most of these involved images of children who were gagged, bound, blindfolded, or otherwise enduring sadistic sex

According to the Crimes Against Children Research Center

We found 40% of the cases involving CP possession in the N-JOV Study involved dual offenses of CP possession and child sexual victimization detected in the course of the same investigation. All of these offenders had identified child victims. An additional 15% both possessed CP and attempted to sexually victimize children by soliciting undercover investigators posing online as minors. When these cases of attempted child sexual victimization are counted, 55% of the CP possessors were dual offenders

Forlorn says that this is minor. Forlorn believes her brother received an unjust sentence and shouldn't have to go to prison for what he did. But there's more. She also believes

throughout history, we had emotionally prepared our young daughters from birth for the task of taking on marriage and a family, and we set them free when their bodies were sexually mature enough to do it. today, their bodies are sexually mature enough, but they are not emotionally prepared to take on those tasks

we expect people to be able to control their responses to 'eye candy' stimuli.... of course they should. but again, the sex drive is a very powerful tool. very powerful. and what was right several hundred years ago is no longer right now... morality has changed, but the human body has not caught up with that.

That sounds very much to me like Shirley Lowery claiming Jesus was a pedophile and having sex with prepubescent children is perfectly normal.

If these people want to be activists, if they want to reform sex offender laws, they need to be honest. No twisting of statistics, no lying, no outrageous and defensive statements for men who have committed horrible crimes against children. They should clean up their act or they will get nowhere fast.

They wanted attention. These blame gamers did. Now they have it. All eyes are upon them, watching and waiting for their next move, their next lie, their next act of twisted propaganda. Anything they say can and will be used against them.

Graphics courtesy of Jacey