Live Journal Fact vs Fiction

Let's clarify some of the wild, hysterical ramblings going on around these parts. It appears that Live Journal during their recent spring cleaning purge deleted some journals that they shouldn't have. So these are the complaints:

1. Anti's have no business reporting blogs for inappropriate content
2. An innocent party could be/has been harmed
3. We're stupid
4. We're doing it wrong
   

So these are the facts:

Over 500 journals on LJ were reported

LJ was specifically warned that some tags may belong to survivor groups

LJ decided who to delete

Almost 150 journals we reported DID NOT get deleted

Over 100 journals that we DID NOT report DID get deleted

For those who shouldn't have been deleted it's understandable that they would be upset, I know I would be. But blind, misdirected hysteria on their part is not going to help them. LJ has apologized to them and assured them that their journals could be reinstated.

We will not apologize for something that we did not do. Nor will we stop doing the things we do........90% of which is not revealed on this or the other Anti blogs. Nor will anyone see it until such time as it's feasible to do so, if ever.

Let me share with you some of the hysteria that's now going on over this. Check out this image and tell me what's wrong with this picture?



A discussion going on at another location includes the above, take a look:

I don't know about you guys, but that phrase alone makes me want to do a babyfuck right in front of them.

I say we spam them with loli, shota, copypasta, and Bel Air.

Report them to blogger for harassment (or make up something)

Find out who these people are in RL and make their lives hell

Someone should make their blog disappear

I'm in. This is fucking ridiculous. I cannot be assed to lock all my perverted entries on livejournal and they fucking closed fandom_wank. I say full scale attack

looks like raep is in order

if they come after the chans then they'll just get the shit raped out of them. And thats hilarious

No mercy. No regrets.

you do not want to start shit with them, this is a war you will not win.

Even if we are outnumbered, then we're like Sparta and they're like Persia. Need I say more?

I'm in. I'll go ahead and take a stand for free speech, and for free thought, and for fucking up any goddamn ignorant self-righteous would-be thought police

Let's make this one epic, so that it can stand as a warning to any other aspiring internet morality squads. /i/NSURGENTS, TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!

Its a fucking all out war........it has started............

As an LJer who is crying, I want my fucking porn back. But if I can't have that, raiding WFI will be almost as good.

Get organized first. Plan your fucking attack. Not just random strains of anonymous, we want a full fleged armada to strike them at once. This is just like what happened on the second day of the subeta raid. (TL;DR Get your fucking plans first then beat them with boards and rusty nails.)

It's time to rape these fuckers and nuke them back to the fucking stone age where they belong

dude, wtf r u doing. They'll track us back here with you posting that link, you fucktard.

This must commence tonight

How the fucking hell do we DDOS Google and Photobucket?!

we need to go for blood, we do to them as we did to kieth, but worse, far worse...........DOS brings down sites for a period of time. going after their real life with slandarous rumors and giving personal details to identity theives cause real suffering and gnashing of teeth........make these motherfuckers gnash

actually this is a good idea, if enough fake WfI letters go to livejournal they'll realize they fucked up even worse than they imagined when they give into the demands of trolls so easily.

BE SURE TO THREATEN THEIR ADVERTISERS!!!!!
LJ IS RUN BY JEWS AND THEY LUUUUUV MONEY

you cannot win this fight, you are outnumbered and outguned. this isn't a "spartan VS Persian" war, this is closer to japan VS america, and you chinks will get law-nuked into oblivion. 95% of the world hates people that prey on children, including pedophiles. you attack anybody against pedos and you have the world on your fucking ass. don't even start this shit. YOU. WILL. LOSE.

Maybe it would be a good idea to just leave them alone so we don't get fucked over as well, but when the hell have us /i/nsurgents listened to reason? As for numbers, I only see three of them and endless amounts of us. Go at it /i/.

Anyway, I agree with >>52351, names and addresses needed, if not for general fuckery then at least an RL raid needs to come out of it. All the rednecks that're good shots got sent to Iraq anyway, so there should be no threat of bodily harm unless the fat landcows they call 'women' charge you like angry bulls.

If you want to help our great cause of /i/nsurgency, do the following.

-Register a fake livejoural account, find "sex offenders" (these can be people with "furry" or "loli" etc in their interests), and send their account names to the Livejournal Abuse team.
-Attack http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/ (docs below) (warning, site contains aids in the form of spyware.)
-Create chaos on any site on either side of the cause. Spread rumors, disinformation
-Blame it all on Teens 4 Christ.

I think we should raid http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/index.php (Crazy black people revolutionist garbage) In the name of the Warriors of Innocence, Claiming that they use drugs and pass it onto children, kill children with their gangfights, black people get the most underage girl preggo, whatever steriotypical racism we can throw...........Also leak warriors for innocence url at some point

I signed them up for gay4free lulz!

Now, we have much to do. And if we seem unfeeling towards innocent blogs that went down, then that's your perception. You should clear your head, calm down and assess the situation. This is all the explaining we're going to do about this.

You see, this is a thankless job. Fortunately gratitude is not our goal. So while those of you bloggers at LJ are over there happily typing away about fluff, stuff and nonsense....... keep in the backs of your minds that these are real people out here dealing with the ugly stuff so that you don't have to see. You can live your life oblivious to it, while making free speech your most valuable commodity.

I thank God for all the Anti's and I support each and every one of them. I know first hand what they go through. I know how hard it is. And this folks, is the end of the LJ'ers harassment campaign against us. Agree or disagree that's your choice. We're doing a good thing and we won't stop.

Dropping Like Flies

Live Journal one of the original blogging sites has been simply infested with pedophiles and pedo-activists. We wrote about it a couple of times HERE and HERE

Some people wonder what AZ and the other ANTI blogs do besides writing about pedofreaks on our blogs. One thing we do is monitor these blogger sites like Live Journal. We watch these perverts invading spaces that kids hang out. We watch them spouting off pedo-crap, puffing each other up with pedo-pride and above all LYING. We work to rid the internet of these dangerous places. Sometimes they go down fast and easy, other times it takes a bit of creativity. But, like I always say "there's more than one way to skin a cat"

Take a look at some recent fallen Live Journals, several communities as well. Live Journal finally snapped to attention and decided to be responsible. Yeah, pedo blogs are dropping like flies over on Live Journal.

Inform
Expose
Silence

And to all you nodding pedoheads responding on WFI with statements like:

Its a free world! If a person do not want to view those contents they do not have to go into the site. Just because you guys do not like it does not mean the whole world doesn't. please respect other people's interest and choices

and

I suppose it's a lot easier to crusade around having fanfiction groups deleted off LJ than it is to contribute time and effort to groups that are trying to change laws and actually...you know. Protect children.

and

Freedom of speech should always trump over zealous fanaticism like this site's.

and

You do realize that by deleting their LJs and letting them know they're watched, the REAL criminals are only going to be more careful next time.

and

Words on a page don't hurt people. People hurt people. And you, my friends, are hurting people by taking away their freedom to write the fiction they please

and

As much as I have deep problems with pedophilia, I have even deeper problems with people who trample freedom of speech as easily as you do. Do you ever give the consequences of your actions any thought?

Every single one of you are indeed pedophiles. Nasty, filthy, stinking pedophiles. You all preface your statements with "I'm not a pedophile myself BUT"

The truth of the matter is that the only person who would value free speech more than the safety of a child is a person who WA LA endangers children. You're all clueless and every single one of these statements prove it.

So, like I said to ZLurker once upon a time..........keep watching.

Are you watching?

When a pervert loves a child.........

"An 8-year-old Cape Coral girl was forced to get off a school bus and urinate on a front lawn while other Cape Elementary pupils watched." Story HERE

Outrageous? You bet. And I seriously doubt if there's one person here who isn't fuming over this story. Heck, even some of the perverts got upset. Some of them. What about the others? Let's look at those a minute. You know....the ones who say that they just love children, they would never harm children, they would always put the needs of a child before themselves, they understand children much more than their own parents!! Yeah, those perverts like:

Abraxas an original NAMBLA member, convicted child molester and general loud mouthed obnoxious POS. We had a long discussion with his good friend Damien Cole back in September about him, and his past. Yeah, good old Rookieeee....who ignores his own pedo-pals when they say in reference to Joseph Duncan..... "Knowledge of a persons past will give you a strong idea of what they will do tomorrow" and while telling all his brothers to behave and not screw things up, and while all the little pedoheads are descending upon blog land making wild claims of NOT being child molesters........oh hell no, they're child lovers. Yes during all of this Rookieeee spoke of convicted pedofreaks who wanted to be pedo activists and made this statement:

"There ain't no way we can (or should) wash our hands of "these people". These people are ourselves"

Well, we agreed. We realize that all you childlovers are indeed convicted child sex offenders. No argument there.

But back to the story.....Abraxas, as a self proclaimed bisexual childlover would surely have something to say about this child........

No big deal......Kids have been peeing in public since time began......Seeing children run around naked is common in many parts of the world......American society is phobic and we have, sadly, made our children afraid of even necessary functions......we do not live in a perfect world

Ah, such understanding. It boggles the mind.

The Phantom:

What do you expect with mimsy-pimsy Americans?

BluegrassBoy:

'scarred for life'?!? LOL

Hierophant:

She will live

The Phantom:

public peeing is practically obligatory in (mainland) China.............All the trauma is a result of societal programming and adults' reaction to the incident, like another activity frequently discussed hereabouts...

What it seems to me that they're lacking besides just general respect and common decency for another human being is empathy. It's interesting that empathy training is a part of sex offender therapy. This is a perfect example of why.

Hey Abraxas, you fat ugly old thang you, how would you like to be forced to urinate on the sidewalk in front of 70 people? Think it wouldn't bother you to hear everyone laughing at you? Especially when you're say....8 years old and especially sensitive to peer pressure? Oh but you do understand 8 year olds, don't you? I almost forgot that part. Children urinating in their own yard, by their own choice does not........by any stretch of the imagination, compare to this. You are a disgrace.

And by the way this is 2007, ok? We have running water and an advanced waste disposal system. We don't live like barbarians or wild animals. We happen to be civilized. But if you'd like to go live in a jungle or a destitute, filthy, uneducated, technologically backwards location........there's a lot of people who would like to help you get there. And good riddance

"I'm watching you, little girl"

I'm referring to Joshua Kistler the 31 year old pervert recently sentenced to 24 years in prison for his online predatory behavior. What did he do?

First he posed as a 15 year old boy using images of his own son. He sent those pictures and videos to young girls and claimed to be dying of Leukemia....all to entice them into sending him sexually explicit pictures of themselves. The girls ranged in age from 12-14.

On March 11, 2005, FBI agents in Portland served a search warrant on defendant's residence, recovering numerous CD's and two computers that the defendant admitted to containing files of movies of young women in various states of undress, some of which were taken and recorded without their knowledge. In addition, a forensic examination revealed thousands of images containing depictions of child pornography.But hey, it gets worse.

He had a program which had recorded the girls on their web cams without their knowledge and he saved the videos.

He stated that he'd "always been a collector"

As part of his plea deal he gave agents detailed information about the software he used to view and record webcam video without alerting the person with whom he was sharing a connection, software designed to simulate reciprocal webcam video for the purpose of deceiving those minors with whom he was chatting.

This was eerily similar in a way to the case of the stolen panties except that the creep factor on this guy is off the scale. I suppose it should come as no surprise. We have no doubt that guys like this have no respect for others, including the little girls they claim to just love. Interesting that this guy made the comment

"I'm sorry for the harm I've caused," he said. "I wasn't aware I was causing any harm."

I found that interesting. And especially when you take into consideration pervert attacks on any law against their behavior. They don't like the idea that their privacy might be invaded. But the privacy of these young girls meant nothing. Just like their psychological well-being meant nothing. In fact none of the girls meant anything at all to this man except as a means to achieve sexual gratification. So what makes him different than these other guys? He got caught. That's the only difference.

Now what do the pedofreaks think about this?

Apple

believes its an over reaction on the girls part.... obviously he shouldn't have been so sneaky but 24 years in prison seems an excessive sentence

Mediapunk

You can only be charged with possession of child pornography. It is not illegal to look at it or view it on a web cam. To my knowledge, there are no laws barring sexual type talk with minors

Infinity:

The first amendment simply does not apply anymore, free speech does not legally exist in the United States anymore

Patrick Kiernan of the FBI Internet Crimes Taskforce says:

“You wouldn’t invite a stranger into your house, or into your bedroom. Don’t let your computer do the same thing.”

Some recommended steps to help protect your child from this sort of thing include:

• do not let your children have computers in their rooms; put them in open rooms only

• keep your computer turned off when you aren’t using it, and if you have a webcam, turn it to the wall when you are not using it, or at least obstruct the view

• purchase your children an email account instead of having them use a free one.
  

These men have one thing on their minds........and it's not the well-being of your child. I believe we'll be seeing more cases like this. We should all warn everyone of this danger. This man, like so many of these online pedofreaks we see, simply has no soul.

Jack's Back

We talked about pedophile Jack McClellan and his pedophile website recently HERE and HERE

Jack has his site back up and running, and guess what folks? He's right back to perving on kiddies. Hanging out at local events, taking pictures of other peoples children.....without their knowledge or permission. Ask Sabrina...this is one upset mother. Who can blame her? She has a message for Jack

"Stop, or else!"

Jack, just like Lindsay Ashford claims he's just exercising his first amendment rights. He sees nothing wrong with the contempt he's showing society. He's going to push, push, push the issue. It matters not to him that Sabrina doesn't want her daughter on a stinking pedophile's website. To Sabrina I say You Go Girl and to Jack I say There's more than one way to skin a cat Jack.

You and your cohorts show absolutely no common decency or respect for society in general. Why the hell do you think we should show you any?

Now State Senator Val Stevens is drafting legislation to be introduced in the next session to make this website illegal in Washington....and hopefully to be expanded later to the Federal level. Who knows, before this is over we might get this sort of thing going in far off places, say places like oh maybe Canada or how about the Netherlands? It's amazing what you can accomplish with a little elbow grease and a lot of determination.

Jack McClellan doesn't deserve respect. Lindsay Ashford doesn't deserve respect. These scornful men are manipulative child predators. And we don't take that lightly. Not at all. We've been huffing and puffing so far, but now a harsh wind has begun to blow. Listen guys, can you hear it? It sounds to me like the Anti's are coming.

This is going to take time, and they may win little skirmishes along the way, but in the end we will win the war. And that war will be decisive. Monitor yourselves, control yourselves, understand what is acceptable behavior.....because if you don't, someone will surely do it for you. This is our children's safety that's at stake, and we don't compromise when it comes to that. So, keep watching. Are you watching, Jack?

A Profile of Pedophilia Part 2

To continue on with our discussion of the article published by the Mayo Clinic Dr. Seto classifies pedophiles according to whether or not child pornography and/or a computer was used to engage the child in sexual activity.

1. Stalkers - who try to gain physical access to children
2. Cruisers - who use the internet for direct sexual pleasure without physical contact (chat rooms)
3. Masturbators - who use the internet for passive gratification (child pornography)
4. Networkers or Swappers - who communicate with other pedophiles and trade information, pornography, and children
5. Combination of the previous 4 types

According to Ken Lanning

30% to 80% of individuals who viewed child pornography and 76% of individuals who were arrested for Internet child pornography had molested a child

According to NCMEC

Forty percent (40%) of those estimated arrestees were “dual offenders,” who sexually victimized children and possessed child pornography, with both crimes discovered in the same investigation. An additional 15% were dual offenders who attempted to sexually victimize children by soliciting undercover investigators who posed online as minors.

According to the Crimes Against Children Research Center

We found 40% of the cases involving CP possession in the N-JOV Study involved dual offenses of CP possession and child sexual victimization detected in the course of the same investigation. All of these offenders had identified child victims. An additional 15% both possessed CP and attempted to sexually victimize children by soliciting undercover investigators posing online as minors. When these cases of attempted child sexual victimization are counted, 55% of the CP possessors were dual offenders

Here are some other quick stats:

• 39% of arrested offenders who met victims online possessed child pornography
• 43% of offenders who solicited undercover investigators posing onine as minors possessed child pornography
• 27% of dual offenders had shown or given child pornography to identified victims
• Approximately 1 in 5 arrested CP possessors (21%) had images depicting sexual violence to children such as bondage, rape, and torture.
• Most had images of prepubescent children (83%) and images graphically depicting sexual penetration (80%)
• One in six investigations beginning with allegations or investigations of CP possession discovered dual offenders.
• 39% of arrested offenders who met victims online and 43% of offenders who solicited undercover investigators were dual offenders
• Almost all arrested CP possessors (96%) were convicted or plead guilty, and 59% were incarcerated.

And should you wonder what motivates these possessors of child pornography, Taylor & Quayle has this to say:

• Sexually interested in prepubescent children (pedophiles) or young adolescents (hebephiles), who use child-pornography images for sexual fantasy and gratification
• Sexually “indiscriminant,” meaning they are constantly looking for new and different sexual stimuli
• Sexually curious, downloading a few images to satisfy that curiosity
• Interested in profiting financially by selling images or setting up web sites requiring payment for access

Dr Seto said:

people are likely to choose the kind of pornography that corresponds to their sexual interests, so relatively few nonpedophilic men would choose illegal child pornography given the abundance of legal pornography that depicts adults.

What were the images?

• 83% had images of children between the ages of 6 and 12
• 39% had images of 3 to 5 year old children
• 19% had images of toddlers or infants younger than 3
• 92% had images of minors focusing on genitals or showing explicit sexual activity
• 80% had pictures showing the sexual penetration of a child, including oral sex
• 21% had child pornography depicting violence such as bondage, rape, or torture. Most of these involved images of children who were gagged, bound, blindfolded, or otherwise enduring sadistic sex

What happened to these men? Does anyone think it's easy to get out of something like this? Well I believe that they get a slap on the wrist compared to what they should get, but they don't get off that easy. It does indeed effect their lives and in some cases you might say it destroys them. Their reputation, their marriages, their jobs even. Basically they lose the respect of anyone who has known them. Who could respect someone who does such a thing? How many get away with it completely? Look at the following chart


Returning to Ken Lanning 's Child Molesters: A Behavioral Analysis whom the pedophiles misquote on almost a daily basis and whose work is quoted extensively in the Mayo article I'd like to share some random quotes of his that ties in nicely with this discussion

P 30 Need-driven behavior leads to bewildering mistakes

P 43 Pedophiles are skilled at manipulating children

P 52 Pedophiles almost always collect child pornography and/or erotica

P 69 Collecting this material may help them satisfy, deal with, or reinforce their compulsive persistent sexual fantasies…..Collecting may also fulfill needs for validation. …It is almost as though each hour spent on the internet and each communication and image is evidence of the value and legitimacy of their behavior.

P 70 Although their brains may tell them not to send child pornography or reveal details of past or planned criminal acts to someone they met online, their need for validation often compels them to do so. They believe what they need to believe

P 81 Pedophiles are more likely to use trickery, bribery or seduction to take their photographs of children. …..Many pedophiles even collect photographs of children who are complete strangers to them….

From David Alway aka Lindsay Ashford who spreads propaganda that child pornography doesn't exist to his pedo brothers: Nigel (convicted of greater than 11,000 CP images), Taf-Kat (convicted of greater than 70,000 images), to Infinity moderator of GirlChat (a picture of a six yr old giving a blow-job and a subscription to a little girl nudie site) and justified it like this:

What was I thinking? Apparently I wasn't thinking, that is what an addict does, they do not think about what they are doing or any consequences, they just need the "fix". I liked looking at those pics and I made a mistake

I SURVIVED the NIGHTMARE that is prison, and I got out, got a kick-ass job, have tons of lg's in my life

All these guys lead right back to Lindsay and men like Dylan Thomas of BoyChat who promote child porn and child prostitution.

I got off the Mayo article a bit here with this discussion of child pornography which was only a small part of the article as it covers the entire pedophile topic. CP is a big issue. It's HUGE. Regardless of what Lindsay Ashford or even the lowly Jackson would tell you.....We've talked about this before. About the Lindsay's of the world who love children so much that they want to legalize the exploitation of children for the sexual gratification of dirty old men. We asked Who are these men? and Is this a game? We talked about John Melanson aka Camper who said:

Our desire for porn makes us use bad judgement sometimes

And now we'll talk about Stitches who says "I know what they're looking for" I certainly don't need a nodding pedo head - ILGO style to tell me it isn't so. We'll get back to Part 3 with the Mayo article soon but for now here's some random search terms from the last few hours:

• diaper child models
• panties children kids fucking
• kindergarten pedo rape
  
• share pics boylover
• preteens pedo porn
• pics vids mommy's boyfriend jacking off on little daughter
• pedo sex with 5yo girls
• pedo girls nude -teen -video
• web.archive boylove gallery
• watch illegal underground child porn of preteen girls
• young girls fucking
• mexican pedo pics
• exploit porn child free pictures girls
• kids pedo pics
• child models panties
• child porn video pedo rape
• 10yo boys naked and hard after sex

And my favorite:

• can someone go to jail for viewing child porn in their past?
• safe payment hard cp pedo
• how to pass the abel assessment
  
  

I'll leave you with this thought: When the pedophile community attempt to ridicule what you are doing, when they scoff and when they rant, sometimes when they try to charm you...... remember who and what they are. Remember their motives for saying these things, and remember above all the results from the N-JOV Study

more than half of child pornography possession cases began with reports from individuals to law enforcement

A Profile of Pedophilia Part 1

Nigel sure does like this article published by the Mayo Clinic. I can't figure out for the life of me why though. Maybe he just doesn't understand it? Or maybe he just obsessively collects anything that has the word pedophile in it as though it were some sort of trophy. On the other hand, maybe his pathological need for attention leads him to do those things. In any event, here it is.

Released in April of this year and co-authored by Drs. Ryan and Richard Hall, A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues is in response to the increased public awareness of pedophilia and to educate physicians regarding the issue.

So, what's in it exactly? Nothing that could help Nigel. Nothing that could help any of them actually. Let's look at some of the highlights which interestingly enough reflect our position on the issues here at AZ.

It includes the types of sexual acts pedophiles may engage in with children listed by types of paraphilias...exhibitionism etc.

Generally, pedophiles do not use force to have children engage in these activities but instead rely on various forms of psychic manipulation and desensitization (eg, progression from innocuous touching to inappropriate touching, showing pornography to children)

A US Department of Justice manual for law enforcement officers identifies 5 common psychological defense patterns in pedophiles:

1. denial "Is it wrong to give a child a hug?"
   
2. minimization "It only happened once"
   
3. justification "I am a boy lover, not a child molester"
   
4. fabrication "the activites were research"
   
5. attack "character attacks on the child, police etc"
   

Sound familiar?
The article continues with diagnostic criteria for pedophilia and gives this information from a study by Gene Abel

40% of child molesters, who were later diagnosed as having pedophilia, had molested a child by the time they were 15 years old. An estimated 88% of child molesters and 95% of molestations (one person, multiple acts) are committed by individuals who now or in the future will also meet criteria for pedophilia. Pedophilic child molesters on average commit 10 times more sexual acts against children than nonpedophilic child molesters.

It then talks about categories of pedophiles, exclusive or nonexclusive and homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual.

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts. Bisexual offenders have on average abused 27.3 children and committed more than 120 acts. A study by Abel et al of 377 nonincarcerated, non–incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts.

These studies confirm law enforcement reports about the serial nature of the crime, the large number of children abused by each pedophile, and the underreporting of assaults. Studies that used self-reports and polygraphs show that pedophiles currently in treatment under report their current interest in children and past behaviors

Wonder why they would under report? Is this article saying that's typical behavior for a pedophile to...what....lie?

Then it goes on to discuss incest:

Federal data show that 27% of all sexual offenders assaulted family members. The study by Abel and Harlow found that 68% of “child molesters” had molested a family member; 30% had molested a stepchild, a foster child, or an adopted child; 19% had molested 1 or more of their biologic children; 18% had molested a niece or nephew; and 5% had molested a grandchild

Let's look at that a moment, as one of the favorite "statistics" that pedophiles love to toss around is that 90% of all child molestations are not committed by pedophiles. They got that information from an unethical journalist, but claim it came from an expert in the field. David Alway aka Lindsay Ashford is the one who started that deceitful propaganda, while all the little pedo heads nodded in unison as it spread like wild fire through their community. Having witnessed Ashford repeat that statistic with my own eyes, and having seen the media fail to follow up with that, you have to wonder why. Why do they allow that statement to stand? Because they don't know....it doesn't sound right, no but not having devoted their life to the issue well no, they haven't read the literature.....It's not pleasant reading that's for sure. They know it doesn't sound right but they have a creepy little pedophile sitting in front of them spouting off statements as FACT and the result is that the statement ends up hanging there in mid air. This is what they want.

Can't you just see Lindsay now? Digging, digging deep down into the bowels of the internet to find one sentence......NOT backed up by what the author actually said I might add and suddenly it's EVERYWHERE! Pedophiles are all aware of this statement. Lindsay even edited Wikipedia and added it there. Just goes to show you that something doesn't have to be true to make it into a Wiki entry. Yet only a handful can tell you where it came from and not a single one of them will be honest with you and tell you that it isn't true after the deception was uncovered HERE

The other little trick they try to pull (and unfortunately it worked on pedophiles) is to try to claim that the difference between a situational versus preferential means something different than what it really means. These were two terms coined by Ken Lanning to aid LEA in understanding how to investigate CSA cases. There's a very interesting post regarding the pedophiles misinterpretation of this Lanning report located HERE

Concerning the above they routinely fail to understand when they make the statement that most abuse is committed by family members, is that number 1 that's a false statement, number 2 just because someone is committing incest does not mean that they are not a pedophile. The studies they link to showing the numbers of abuse do not address the question of whether or not the perpetrator is a pedophile. And in fact Ken Lanning stated in his report that this was one of the biggest mistakes law enforcement make when investigating a case involving incest when they assume that there are no other victims but one.

I'll have to come back to this Mayo article later as there is simply too much to fit into one post. I do think you will find it valuable reading though should you care to take the time with it. It includes heavy referencing of the work of Dr. Gene Abel who conducted one of the largest, most comprehensive studies to date and was subsequently labeled a crackpot by none other than the dad-beating boy-luster BlueRibbon. It also references the expert Ken Lanning who was libeled and defamed by a child predator known as Lindsay Ashford....The result being? Now the entire pedo community believes the great Lindsay lie.

This is just one more example of the dangers of pedo congregation, and I'll leave you with a perfect example. We talked about an Australian report HERE, we explained how pedophiles had misinterpreted that report........there is no doubt about it. And yet HERE we have JD420 stubbornly continuing to make the same pedo-lie to new people. Pedo activism....purposefully deceiving....proliferation of lies with a sinister ulterior motive---gaining sexual access to children.

JohnDoe420 is the very epitome of why. Why places like AZ exist...... and just as importantly why we will not stop.

Ken Lanning said:

Most preferential child molesters spend their entire lives attempting to convince themselves and others that they are not perverts.

Gene Abel said:

Pedophilia is the most significant cause of child molestation.

Legislation Proposal

MADISON — Wisconsin employers could fire and refuse to hire convicted child molesters, kidnappers and murderers under a Republican bill that would carve out an exemption to the state's fair employment law.

If the proposal passes, it likely would be the first law of its kind in the country, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. The state Assembly is scheduled to take the bill up Wednesday.

Current state law prohibits employers from considering a criminal conviction when deciding to fire or hire someone unless the crime substantially relates to the job. The new bill would allow employers to fire or turn away convicted sexual or violent offenders, regardless of whether their crimes have a bearing on the job.

The bill's author, state Rep. Joel Kleefisch, R-Oconomowoc, said current state law allows sexual and violent offenders to hold jobs where they can interact with potential victims in ways that don't qualify as substantial, such as greeting customers at a retail store.

Employers should have the right to decide who works for them, he added.

"Every time you see on the news another child who's been raped or murdered by a predator pedophile it should make anybody's stomach turn and skin crawl," Kleefisch said. "At the time you commit a sexual assault, you've just made a lot of things in your life a lot harder from here on out."

Republicans control the Assembly, and Speaker Mike Huebsch, R-West Salem, supports the bill, his spokesman said.

But the measure also must pass the Democratic-controlled state Senate and get Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle's signature before it can become law.

Doyle's spokesman said the governor has to review the bill. A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Judy Robson, D-Beloit, didn't immediately return messages.

The bill goes with another GOP measure that would allow a school district to fire or refuse to hire any felon, no matter whether the conviction had anything to do with the job. The Assembly is scheduled to consider that bill on Wednesday as well.

Doyle vetoed a nearly identical measure last session.

If Wisconsin passes the bill it will be a fair precedent for other states to follow suit. Child predators routinely say that the answer to the problem of child sex abuse is to educate children so that they know which one of the perverts are abusing them and which ones are loving them. Okay, I will also say the answer is education.........educate these pedofreaks that when they go after our kids there will be no welcoming place left for them to go.

Let your voice be heard before the Senate vote takes place!

Contact Wisconsin state senators HERE

Contact Governor Jim Doyle HERE

Chance To Respond

Here is the chance for any PF to actually completely respond to a post on Absolute Zero.

I asked this question in a previous post and received no directed responses whatsoever.

I believed, then, that the question required its own stand-alone post. The question is this:

List for me, if you will, the personal or societal benefits of paedophilia, for both sides of the perpetrated act.

I solicit any and all input.

I would also humbly request that members of AZ refrain from either editing, interfering, deleting or rephrasing the responses acquired from this question.

I wish to see any and all responses in their complete and unadulterated forms.

AZ is now providing any and all with a promotional board to explain, in detail, their inclinations, tendencies, proclivities and reasons for their urges.

Please explain your answer to the above question.

AZ staff, management, contributors: please allow the resulting comments absent any editing.

Thank you kindly, on each side, for your input. But beware: answer the question directly. I myself have the capability to edit should I desire. Be brief and succinct.

BZ

Dear albertRoss 1 of 4

Out, out, brief candle!

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player

That struts and frets his hour upon the stage

And then is heard no more: it is a tale

Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

Signifying nothing.

albertRoss thinks my recent post about him is "Much ado about nothing", but I prefer Macbeth. He came to AZ to comment but wasn't met with the response he thought he should get. I deleted his comments after his complaints were addressed....more than once. He was warned and then summarily deleted for trolling. But he didn't take it well, and has chosen me to lash out at. He has posted a series of four video responses and put them on YouTube. Ok, albertRoss here is your response. Let's break it down, ok? I'm going to summarize.

You feel that ridiculing you or other perverts isn't a valid argument. It's a cheap shot. Am I close to the spirit of the thing? You claim that your yellow finger is simply a surface feature, it's superficial....transient and will wash off whereas I have a permanent blemish on my character. A much more serious and profound condition, eh? Well, see here al, that yellow on your finger didn't get there over night, and it won't wash off over night either, no, it's been a long time coming that yellow finger has. And I'm quite sick of it actually, so let me explain the importance of your yellow finger to the issue at hand.....

1 You are filthy.

This is evidenced with visual documentation and a verbal confession. We do indeed know this to be true.

2 You are a pedophile.

As evidenced by your written word, your verbal word and your previous conviction.

So exactly where have I gone wrong when I call you a filthy pedophile?

I did not lie, mislead, nor libel you. You are the same both inside and out and I proved it.

The stain you saw on my character is no blemish, that is my purple heart and I earned it fair and square. So you believe that I'm having fun at your and other pedos expense? Now al, seriously you knew when you said that it wasn't true. You aren't fun al, no not at all. You are a Burden with a capital B. To me.....to society.

Your other complaints are intertwined, in my opinion. At least my answers are. I deleted your comments and I misspelled your name. Whew, I really don't know how to break this down on any more simpler terms than I already have but I'll give it my best shot. You trolled us al. You harassed.....you were trying for a reaction and you got it. Your first comment was responded to but that wasn't good enough, you were on the attack. Now al, I did explain to you that AZ doesn't owe you freedom of speech, I don't know what you expect. I don't go to GirlChat and attack you, why would you think you could come here and attack us?

You did this last year too. You posted the same comment exactly 15 times. You only stopped because someone posted a link to a man named Albert Ross who wasn't you. Meaning of course, we don't like being harassed go away. When it was found to not be you it was quickly deleted. No the man's IP address was not posted. The only thing that happened was a link to a website. So you tell me "You can go to jail for stuff like that" I can only say, blow it out your ear, al baby, no one is going to put me in jail for misspelling your nickname. Which is what again? albertRoss "like the bird but misspelled"

However, if I had gone slithering around and dug up some deep dark secrets on him. Information that he himself had not already published in public view....details that were not newsworthy and that an average person would be distressed should that type of info be revealed about them.....THEN he would have cause of action against me under the tort of invasion of privacy inflicting emotional distress. See Melvin v Reid. In summary: Public disclosure of embarrassing private facts is an invasion of privacy tort when the disclosure is of no public concern, is not newsworthy and outrages the public sense of decency.

So you see al, I'm not in the business of 'outting' people, and I'm not in the business of digging into your private affairs. I use your own words and actions that you are posting on the internet, which is more than enough.

To conclude I would like to say that I did notice that you didn't smoke while you addressed me, and I realize that was probably hard for you. So a HT to you, I will take that as a sign of your respect for me.