Rounding up Sex Offenders

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You need to use situations as they occur, anything to make an argument appear more relevant. Yes please everyone, exploit Jaycee Dugard some more - one sex offender wasn't enough for a life time - you need to FLOOD THE INTERNET


So speaks the RSOL, Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign. Heck they even tell you what to say

This article needs massive response. WE URGE ALL RSOL PARTICIPANTS TO WRITE ALTERNET AT ONCE!

The way we respond is to remove hundreds of thousands from the registry so the few who have been certified as truly dangerous by qualified professionals can be detained and treated until found no longer dangerous. Essentially, this would be to adopt the Canadian system, rather than the U.S. registry which destroys the lives of hundreds of thousands of non-dangerous people and their families, yet protects NO-ONE from real dangers. Alex Marbury and Kelly Piercy.

I'm just not understanding that. They want to round up sex offenders, detain and treat them until they are no longer "truly" dangerous? That just doesn't sound like them at all. Didn't they say

• Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders
• Abolish all laws that provide life in prison for sex offenders.

They lied!!!!! Now they want to round them up and "detain" them!!

The truth is that they'll say anything they think might convince people that they are something they aren't. They're all living - breathing contradictions. Their claim that the sex offender registry is what allowed Garrido to get by with holding Jaycee captive for 18 years. I'm sure you've heard the mantra

The truly dangerous are hiding in the registry

Of course that's not true. They aren't "hiding" they're right there where we can see them among all the other dangerous people who have created victims. Nor did GPS fail in this situation. The problem was Garrido wasn't wearing it in 1991. If he had been Jaycee would have been rescued immediately. There are over 22,000 registered sex offenders in California who are NOT on the public registry, because they are deemed low risk. There are less than 7,000 offenders in California wearing GPS monitoring. Some dumb ducks have taken that to mean that there are only 7,000 deemed dangerous in California. The truth is California uses GPS on offenders who are on parole. The cost is $6 a day versus $96 a day to keep them in prison. Parole allows an offender to complete his sentence outside of prison. Why would registered sex offenders complain about them having to wear GPS rather than spend their entire sentence in prison, and most of all why would they complain that GPS didn't help rescue Jaycee when he was not wearing it when he abducted her? The answer to all of this is that these people, these blame gaming fools thought they had an opportunity to exploit someone for their own gain. They chose the wrong story, again. And they chose the wrong state.

The mistakes made in this case are obvious: A judge who believed Garrido when he said he only raped because of the influence of drugs, so he gets his sentence reduced so he can gain access to drugs and victims again. Law enforcement who made the mistake of thinking since Garrido was in compliance that meant he was reformed. They took the deviousness and manipulative skills of a rapist for granted.

Sosen states that their goals are to abolish PUBLIC registration for sex offenders, and ALL registration for first time offenders. "All" meaning no law enforcement registration either. Interestingly enough Garrido was a first time offender..... you know the ones that keep offending but have only been caught once? I wonder if they'll rethink their idiotic ramblings? How about this one?

Long mandatory minimum sentences can have a number of negative consequences that serve to decrease, rather than increase, public safety.

I'm sure a lot of people would agree with the Sosenites on that one. Not allowing judges to be influenced and manipulated by rapists is dangerous you know. Long prison sentences make society more dangerous. We're much safer with them out of prison, without any community notification or restrictions.

It's all so simple I don't know why we didn't think of it ourselves.

Take a look at John Couey for example. For some reason Mary wouldn't mind him being on a registry. Of course she says that now - looking back with hindsight. The truth of the matter is, had Couey joined Sosen before he killed Jessica Lunsford Mary would have welcomed him with open arms and fought to get him off the registry just like she fought to get Garrido and the other 700,000 registered sex offenders she claims to represent off the registry.

Mary claims "prevention" is better. And of course monitoring sex offenders isn't prevention. No, Mary has given us very good tips for "prevention", so far her ideas include

• Teach kids to Just Say No to child sexual abuse
• Put labels on cell phones warning people they can be on a registry if they produce child pornography with it

Mary isn't interested in preventing sexual abuse. She's interested in preventing the prosecution of sex offenders.

Who is feeding this mentality? Let's see what pedophile activists have to say:

As already mentioned, there exist a number of well-regarded political movements that we can discreetly influence. Although they do not openly admit it, our influence will be vital to their long-term survival and development. And with power and connections of the kind we have not seen for decades, these groups are offering us a free ride, with minimal concessions in the long-run.

Central to the RSO movement are the families of Registered Sex Offenders, often cited as the unintended victims. However much some may dislike the nuclear family, no one is likely to lose an argument if their point of view serves its integrity.

Richard Kramer - self-identified pedophile and co-founder of B4U-Act, owner of MHAMic, and member of RSOL and BoyChat responds:

The fundamental issue we need to address is the defense of our humanity. We need to confront the stigmatization, demonization, and stereotyping that exists due simply to our attraction to children or adolescents, regardless of our behavior. To do this, we need to be honest about our sexuality. That's why I'm involved with B4U-ACT, and why, unfortunately, the "well-regarded political movements" listed in your editorial won't quite cut it, even though I agree with their goals. For example, the most successful RSO activist group, ReformSexOffenderLaws.org (RSOL), is opposed to the demonization and stereotyping of all groups, including pedophiles.

However, not everybody working for RSOL understands that, and a BL or GL working with RSOL would not be able to be honest about his sexuality.

Perhaps some Denial Therapy is in order

Never Say Everything

Michael Melsheimer:

I have known Fred Berlin for more than 20 years. Do you know that he spoke against the reporting law in the state legislature of Maryland when it was first proposed in the late 80's? This was not a popular thing to do. I was with him when he did this.

Berlin says a lot of things publicly, so do people like ourselves. We never say everything.

shy guy:

NAMBLA was founded in late 1978 following a meeting of a group of gay community activists that had rallied to defend the Boston gay community against a media/legal attack by the local DA.

I should note that among the most influential early members was an anarchist ex-minister with a background of anti-war activism and writing as well as activism on economic justice issues

Michael Melsheimer of B4U-Act is the new breed of pedophile activist which attempts to ride the fence between what is acceptable (help pedophiles not offend) and a group of men who get together just to figure out ways to legalize boy raping. The name of his organization upsets the BoyChatters however. B4U-Act implies that Michael wants to help them NOT rape babies. This is unacceptable to the pedophiles. The truth is that Michael doesn't want to stop them at all. He merely wants to infest society with a bunch of crap. He wants the same thing he's always wanted. He just can't say it. He can't say it to us, he can't say it to the mental health community and he can't even tell the pedo groups that he's on their side. We'd find out if he did. He's sneaky that way.

Michael has found the way to sideswipe society he thinks. He's convinced the Baltimore Mental Health Community that he's something he's not. BoyChat doesn't know what to think of him and the Reform Sex Offender Law Campaign is loving him.

Follow along with some conversations from BoyChat. Some brand spanking new, some a little older. The language never changes but his mission is made clear - Nambla didn't work. We must try something new.

Michael Melsheimer:

B4U-ACT is doing great. I recently spoke with a person that had something to do with the starting of NAMBLA. He thought it looked good.

mvanhouten:

Does Maryland know you show your webpage to old NAMBLA founders for approval?

Does everyone who goes to LifeLine know that your goal for them is to 'eliminate offending?' Or is it your goal? And if it isn't, does Maryland know that too?

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

mvanhouten:

What exactly DID you acomplish? Your website still states your goal as 'eliminating offending'? How much offending do you think you eliminated (with the gracious help of this unnamed NAMBLA founder)?

Michael Melsheimer:

Your website still states your goal as 'eliminating offending'?

It certainly does not.

The term child molester is not in the B4U-ACT lexicon. We do have in our lexicon the term minor attracted person. B4U-ACT wants to work with any minor attracted person that seeks us out.

mvanhouten:

It's right on your site!
Here is a sentence from your report to Baltimore Mental Health Systems (22 June 2007)describing B4U-ACT's purposes:

"The report describes how improved communication would contribute to the prevention of offending, the prevention of harm to minor-attracted adults and adolescents, increased understanding by mental health professionals, and more effective and just policies."

But the question now is: why not just say it here too? Why deny it so adamently here at BoyChat? Because it's a lie you made to BMHS? Or, because you don't wish your potential clients here to know that is your goal?

Michael Melsheimer:

The report was dated 2007. It is part of our history, but the passage that offends you is no longer relevant to our site today. I can't change what is in our history and would be dishonest to try. It would be like BC editing their archives. Our site changed in December 2008 because of the statement you quoted.

Be assured you will find no current reference to prevention of offending. You can take that to the bank.

mvanhouten:

Why don't you post here and now that neither you nor B4U-ACT take a position on the appropriateness or inappropriateness of adult/minor intimacy?

Why not state that it is now NOT the goal of B4U-ACT to 'eliminate offending'?

Michael Melsheimer:

People sometimes say too much and destroy what they really want to do. I have already said a lot and don't want to say anymore.

mvanhouten:

Do you personally believe that any and all adult/minor sexual interaction qualifies as 'offending' and requires elimination?

Why can't you give straight answers to simple questions? It seems almost a pathology with you.

Michael Melsheimer:

People sometimes say too much and destroy what they really want to do. I have already said a lot and don't want to say anymore.

Fame:

There is something called "politics", it a game which MM must play.

As things progress the politics change. Soon the word "offending" won't be used at all in b4uacts rhetoric.

Further, sexual activity with minors is illegal. It is irrelevant (to this discussion) whether it should be legal or not, the bottom line is that it is and b4uact must work within that framework. Neither b4uact nor the psychological community not the BL community at large wishes BLs to commit crimes for which they may go to jail.

You need to understand this.....as well as rhetoric and politics.

Fame:

If MM declared a position on the appropriateness of sexual acts here it may alienate those he works with since he has now taken on an agenda which is not a part of his organization.

mvanhouten:

What state agency would knowingly give someone money if they knew the effort he was putting into Lifeline/BoyChat?

Michael Melsheimer:

It is important for the MAA community to have contacts in organizations like Stop it Now. They have great influence on the legislative process, and we need to know them and they need to know us. Some of the people that work for these organizations are not anti MAA. It serves our community well to find, know, and work with them

mvanhouten:

I am all for advocating people break the law, especially when it comes to mutually agreeable activities.

Michael Melsheimer:

I was on the Sally Jesse Raphael show years ago with a NAMBLA person..... He influenced my life tremendously. NAMBLA made a lot of mistakes, but they supported BL's almost before there was anything else. Tom O' Carroll, PIE fame, is also one of my heroes. His book, Paedophilia - The Radical Case, certainly opened my eyes up to a lot of things, just as my travels to SE Asia did.

mvanhouten:

I ultimatley want to undermine the labels "child" and "adult" so that people will evenutally see a relationship between a 9 and a 29 year old with at least the same lack of concern as a relationship betwen a 39 and a 69 year old.

Michael Melsheimer:

I think that you are right. We do have to go slow and not take on a radical agenda. We could all learn well by what happened to NAMBLA.

As it relates to building bridges, you are right again. There is nothing more important for our community to do. It is the only way we are ever going to be able to get any possible acceptance in the larger community for who we are as human being and what we feel is right for children

Michael Melsheimer:

My organization is not going to say to offend.

I am a BL without regret and will always be a BL without regret. My life as a bl has been terrific. No one could ever make me say otherwise. This is even considering that I spent time in prison.

Our line in the sand has historically defeated us. We need to think about a new one.

Michael Melsheimer:

We need to come together as a community. But there is another choir we need to preach to. That choir is the larger community, and it can help make all our dreams come true. Our problem is that they aren't singing our song . The major job in front of us is to get them to sing it.

We have to be very careful at first as to what we say and do, so we can say do and say more down the road. We need to build bridges and coalitions. This means that we might have to cool it for the moment. Please note that I said for the moment.

Will Robinson:

I am continually amazed at the political skills (evasiveness?) of this B4U-Act organization.

Michael Melsheimer has my vote as one of the smoothest operators I've ever beheld.

Is he a great leader or the new "Tricky Dick" of pedo-politics?

Richard Kramer:

As you may know, B4U-Act is promoting communication between minor-attracted people and mental health professionals. The purpose of these services is NOT to "cure" us of our attraction to minors--we do NOT believe we are sick.

It comes as no surprise to us at Absolute Zero that this was B4U-Act's goal, we've been saying this all along, yet Alex Marbury, the coordinator behind the "Reform Sex Offender Laws" campaign, embraces B4U-Act and even describes pedophilia as an "important discussion" to educate activists on the benevolence of pedophiles.

This is a campaign being supported by sex offenders activists claiming to be "reformed." Groups like SOSEN and individuals like Mary Duval. msdxe3ct78