Lindsay Slipped ~ Oops

Is anyone here aware of the new effort against Lindsay Ashford? Petra Luna is calling for search engines to de-list Lindsay. (Hey Lindsay, here's a clue.....they can). Petra went on KTRH Newsradio and was interviewed by Scott Braddock concerning this effort. You can listen to it HERE

Scott also interviewed Lindsay. You can listen to it at the same location....if you can stomach it. It was mostly just more of the same old nauseating drivel that emanates from the words and writings of this sick twisted sissy-man. But there were a few things from the interview that I wanted to make note of. Let's start here:

Scott: Do you think that children who have any type of sex with adults grow up to be well adjusted?

Lindsay: I think that some do.

Scott: Do you know of any?

Lindsay: I know of people who had sexual encounters when they were elementary school age children.

Scott: And you think they're alright?

Lindsay: I think they're fine.

Let's stop there and first look at his one-time partner Todd Nickerson. Todd was molested as a small boy, I believe it was a fondling episode. To this day he can't come to terms with it. "Did the man care for me?" He still asks himself. Well, Todd, I'm sorry to say, that no, no the man did not care for you. He merely groped you, that's what perverts do. When you go on one of your rants, when you're confused and tormented by it.......you are asking the wrong people for advice when you go to GirlChat for answers. They are perverts! What do you expect? Perhaps you should try writing a survivor letter to your abuser instead.

As for Lindsay, he failed to tell Scott Braddock that he himself was molested by his babysitter when he was 4 years old. He failed to tell Scott about how he never told anyone, how it tormented him and he thought of it as a trauma, how screwed up it made him when he was going through puberty. He failed to tell Scott about his multiple suicide attempts and his bipolar disorder. His multiple hospitalizations in mental institutions and how he is still not alright to this very day. Yeah he left off that part. But, moving on....

Scott: So there should be no laws regarding people who for example do what most people consider to be molestation of children?

Lindsay: I think that there should be laws against any form of sexual contact which are obtained by force, coercion,manipulation or deception.

What? Lindsay agrees! There should be no deception! Then what do you call all that rubbish on your website, Lindsay? All those twisted and skewed academic articles? The twisting of Ken Lanning for example, and gosh darn even the DOJ report, you've screwed that up too! How do you explain the ethics behind manipulation of facts for the purpose of deceiving people, which is in turn to create some sort of change of opinion about you and yours?

How do you explain your actions? That's not honesty.....so why would you feel people should take what you say seriously and believe you when you say that you wouldn't harm a child under any circumstances when your entire website is a purposeful misrepresentation? Why should they believe you when you say that a child who was abused wasn't really abused? Or when you say your website is not hosted in the Evil Empire then try to claim free speech protection under the American Constitution? Why should they trust you to be a fine, up-standing man when you post what you know to be a form letter from StC....which they rescinded...and you leave it there when they request it be removed and your sole purpose is to deceive people into believing that StC endorses you?

Why should they feel anything other than repugnance when they see you mock society....or children who were abused, or murdered? You are a walking, talking, breathing LIE, Lindsay Ashford. You are dishonest, unethical, calculating, malicious, and unconscionable. But there's more:

Lindsay: I think that so long as there is consent and respect that children should be allowed to....

Scott: Do you think that a 5 year old grasps what's going on well enough to be able to consent to sexual activity?

Lindsay: A 5 year old understands friendship. A 5 year old understands affection.

Scott: So can a 2 year old?

Lindsay: A 2 year old understands pleasure.

Scott: So they can consent to sex?

Lindsay: They can consent to pleasurable activity

Scott: Can a 6 month old do that?

Lindsay: I'm sure that 6 months old also have nerve endings and understanding and an understanding of what is pleasurable to them, yes

Scott: So a 6 month old can consent to sex

Lindsay: A 6 month old can consent to activity that it finds pleasurable

Scott: And so you don't understand why you get death threats?

There you have it. A condensed version, but if you can bear it go listen to the entire thing. Let's see what the girl chatters had to say about their hero

Hayaku: She should get the hell of the internet. The last frontier of free speech, and a very exciting one, and a bunch of mentally ill christofascist bitches with nothing better to do than make stupid petitions and complaints try and spoil it all.

albertross: lindsay - you hit every ball home - i could almost believe your interviewer was feeding you lines from a script - he was classic, and you walked him smack into every wall on the court. well played, sir - absolutely impeccable.

Was he listening to the same interview I was??

Elminster: You're my fucking hero, dude! You have balls the size of Jupiter!

Student: Aside from being articulate, you have a delightful accent, man.

LOL, read more about that here.

"The Brits are really surprised when I say I'm
American, because my accent is really good, so
I'd say that I'm the second American who can pull it off."

For the record, he's from San Francisco and if you listen carefully you'll hear him slip sometimes when he's talking. Some things you can only fake for so long, in fact he did it in this interview.

Student: That 6-month-old baby he threw at you was uncalled for. I suppose he was just trying to trip you up and test you for consistency, but it certainly drove down the amount of rational thought going on in his listening audience, which was already pretty low. Lindsay, you have Balls of Titanium

Hierophant: I was almost in tears luaghing at the Texas radio host.

Trucker: TOOT TOOT!!! (NT)

Hayaku: More nutjobs that make no sense fighting us. Makes us look like the smart ones.

SUNDAYS AND CYBELE: cant wait for judgement day and the 2nd coming. BURN ANTI'S BURN!

Febri-chan: God bless puellula and Mr. Ashford until and beyond the end of the world!

Norbert: Who made a better case?

LOL I believe that was a rhetorical question.

By Land and Sea and Air

On horseback, steamboats and jets. The mail always gets through..........or does it?

For those of you who have been keeping up with the attempt by Perverted Justice to shut down Pedo sites you should be familiar with this. Read more HERE and HERE.

The pedofreaks don't seem to want to go quietly into that good night. They believe they can get a court injunction to stop the closing of their pedo sites. They believe somehow, that they can FORCE someone to sell them a service which they don't want to sell them. Go figure.

Well, naturally they need money for the attorneys, and naturally when they begged for donations and got lots of pledges, all those pledges have somehow not appeared....promptly. They're a little bit worried now. They're down to the wire. They need $20,000 pronto.

But ya know, thinking about this it just reminded me so much of something else. Remember the whole Save the Children fiasco? We wrote about it HERE and HERE. Also HERE, HERE and HERE

And thinking of that reminded me of THIS and all the pedo-anxiety they all experienced when they talked about making anonymous donations. They had so many suggestions concerning how to make donations while remaining SAFE, that you couldn't help but chuckle. Some suggestions included:

Only send cash
Mail from another location
Wear surgical gloves
Don't use lickable stamps....but if you do use a sponge and bottled water...
But wait! Can water residue be traced?

And Porcelain seems the most concerned

"Why would I worry about a cash donation via the US postal service... well most letters these days are given a tracking number very close to the mail box the letter is taken from, hence, a route, especially in less populated areas, would allow the all pervasive government to narrow a search down considerably."

If they aren't doing anything illegal, what the hell is wrong with them? Stick a check in the mail and be done with it already! But then that's the Girl Chatters for you. Now we have the Boy Chatters trying desperately to get hold of some money. They don't want their message board to go down, no, it's almost like a lifeline for them. I mean heck, who else is going to tell them how wonderful they are? There's just a weeeee little problem here.

Lot's of eyes are on them.

They must be careful, you see.

One helpful pedofreak posted a a USPS chart with the length of time it takes the mail to arrive and the cost! Wow! How very helpful.

But when he referred those guys to the USPS website, and also instructed them to use a fake return address, perhaps he should have instead directed them to the Postal Inspectors website. You think? I guess in their pedo-hysteria they didn't realize there are laws about such things. And that those laws are Federal. And that their donations just might not ever arrive. Ever.

Charitable Delusions

This blog has covered the on-going Save the Children fiasco within the paedophile community. If you are unaware of these events, here's a brief history:

- Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson gathered donations from the paedophile 'girl lover' community and made a donation to Save the Children in the name of 'GirlLovers Alice Day'

- Save the Children clearly did not pick up on where the money was coming from and sent back a generic thank you note.

- Ashford proceeded to post the thank you note on his site, claiming We are glad that Save the Children, despite the prevailing antipathy against girllovers, has seen fit to accept our gifts and in so doing recognized our commitment to aiding the empoverished children of the world and enabled us to do so.

- A contributor to this blog alerted Save the Children to the situation and the donation was promptly returned.

This situation has caused great angst in the paedophile community. Members of this blog have suggested that paedophiles who want to donate to a charity should make the donation anonymously. This would help children (which they *say* is their real agenda) without causing respectable organizations to turn them away. This suggestion was met with great furor amongst paedophiles. But it seems that, of late, they've reconsidered. However, it's also brought out the paranoid delusions that they're so famous for:


Porcelain carries on like a raving lunatic:

I've thought about donating something, however, I am absolutely paranoid about leaving a paper trail anywhere, especially 'credit cards', given how many people have been assaulted because they submitted a credit card for access.

Are there ways to get donations that do not involve: Postal Services, especially the US Postal service, traceable bank transfers, included credit cards, etc.

I once read about using calling cards one can purchase most anywhere, however, if push came to shove, a calling card does have an identifiable amount of information that at least would place a user 'somewhere' in the world, thus, for the paranoid, is to close for comfort.

Why would I worry about a cash donation via the US postal service... well most letters these days are given a tracking number very close to the mail box the letter is taken from, hence, a route, especially in less populated areas, would allow the all pervasive government to narrow a search down considerably.

Am I paranoid, you f--king bet. Some may pass it off as delusional, however, there are too many reports like the one that Taf-Kat posted, were someone has their house raided, because they just may 'know' someone who is suspect.

The news recently has had a number of revelations about how the government, using complient organzations, banking, communications providers, etc. where millions of transactions have been monitored in some way. Perhaps via automatic pattern recognition methods, but just the same, some pattern matches, you are survailed more closely.

But then once the truely anonymous donation has been sent off, how, really does one 'know' that the donation ever really reached the destination, other than say, for GC, when someone posts who has donated recently.

Even in big time organizations, there have been cases of fraud, misuse of funds, etc. and that is with yearly auditors checking the book

Demonsthenes advises:

Straight up cash isn't trackable (unless you're worried about them finding finger prints... so use gloves? :-p)... and just drop it in the mail when you're on vacation (again.. if you're paranoid about finger prints... use gloves :-p). Sure, they'll be able to track it down to the general area that you mailed it from, but that won't matter so much, will it?

Porcelain still isn't convinced:

Paper is very absorbent of environmental elements... US currency is identified by the region it was issued from... licking the stamp or envelope leaves saliva, which can and will be used in a court of law...

When finding a needle in the haystacks, it is beneficial to know which haystack to look at... when finding a radio active needle, ie one that emits, again reducing the number of haystacks that have to be exhaustively searched is beneficial...

Paranoid... no just read the news...

Infinity furthers the advice given by Demosthenes:

Just buy a self-adhesive stamp (no licking)...and use TAPE to seal the envelope...and as Demo said you can mail it from ANOTHER place not near where you live. Wrap the cash in several pieces of paper...or put it in a card. There is just no way they can trace you if you take those precautions. If you were really that adamant about it all...buy a cheap pair of surgical gloves to do all of that, no finger prints. How safe if that?

For the record...most posters who donate to GC do all or most of these things...although some of them do mail them from the state they live...of course those envelopes are completely destroyed, so the danger is non-existent.

And Baldur elaborates even further:

. . . you can also get self-adhesive envelopes now, which do not require licking.

Even if you wish to use traditional stamps and envelopes, you can "lick" the stamp and flap with a wet sponge or a wet cloth. If you're really concerned, use bottled water - though I have yet to hear of the authorities analysing the residue from tap water to deduce the source.

Right. A charity organization is going to raid your house for making an anonymous donation. Keep in mind that these are the guys who keep proclaiming that they're not doing anything illegal. Makes you wonder what they're so psychotically paranoid of someone finding.

Truth in Advertising

After Save the Children returned the donation to Todd Nickerson, Lindsay Ashford advised they should not cash the check. The money would remain in StC account and therefore he could leave his fake endorsement on his website. But Todd took matters into his own hands, and decided to cash the check and disperse the money anonymously without telling anyone where. The purpose being :

There'll be neither bragging on our part nor harassment on the part of the antis.

To make matters worse he then received a LETTER from the State of Connecticut Attorney General's Office

I urge you to immediately remove this press release from your website. Your failure to do so may result in the imposition of civil and criminal penalties.

At which point the bickering started in earnest.

Todd:

It is illegal to post a charity's name without permission.
Hopefully Lindsay will just take it down

Lindsay:

To be honest you brought this upon yourself.
Todd, you were not the organiser of this campaign. I was.
As for your decision to cash the cheque, I am still opposed to that.

Todd:

While you are technically correct -- the money does not belong to me -- I frankly don't give a rip.
This community is rampant with cowardice, small-mindedness and hypocrisy.
If you threaten me, I WILL pursue it legally. I know who you are and I have your mother's phone #.
I am not a trained monkey this community can shoot into alien territory to see if it's safe for humans
If I'd thought for a second that they would throw me in jail because YOU put something on your website that they didn't like, then I would NOT have attached my name to this project.
I see myself as a sailor on board a ship with a captain who was making a very bad decision.
F*** you and the other assholes here. If you cared about your own community you'd think twice before you backed me into a corner of desperation.

piz

This charity thing will have ended up being of no benefit to us whatsoever.

Todd:

I'll be the one they go after, not Lindsay. They can't catch Lindsay -- he can put whatever he wants on his site, and they can't touch him as long as he's out-of-country.

LGinmyheart:

Lindsay is not living in the Empire as of now, therefore they can't get him -- they will gladly get Todd instead.

Minstrel:

It doesn't give him a 'blank check' to do as he pleases with the money we donated

Marco Polo:

You are beyond the pale Todd

Febri-chan:

I trust Todd infinitly more than I trust Lindsay

Enigma:

We lost respect for you after you stole the money.
You should be sued for what you've done.

Myrddraal:

You're on the short list of people at this site I would feel OK about being around a child

Dissident:

If you think Todd is one of the few here who would be safe to have around your kids, I take that as a major insult, especially when you consider how unstable he can be

Demosthenes:

That money is not yours and you have no right to do anything with it that you happen to decide. The people who donated that money did so with expectation......
You have repayed us with betrayal

BB:

I can only recall very few people that I've actually lost all respect for around here and I'm sorry to say I now count you among them.
You're despicable Todd

Baldur:

StC needs to go down in flames

Todd:

Let it be known .... that you and a few others here have made me into an enemy. I expect you will come to regret that.

THIS is StC's TOS. FYI: Save the Children is an INTERNATIONAL organization. Lindsay violated IP laws. He shouldn't be so sure of his untouchability.
He's willing for Todd to take the fall, be sued on civil charges and possibly charged for criminal acts. All so he can keep what he uses as 'endorsement' on his web page.
This is a total lack of integrity and ethics.

And he wants society to accept what he is and believe his dripping-with-saccharine-self-proclaimed-child-lover-I'd-never-harm-them testament??

Get Real Lindsay! You're as fake as a three dollar bill and as transparent as glass.

Poor Dominic

For some reason TODD and his cronies think they can invent a fictitious character named Dominic and fool unsuspecting people. Dominic, being just your average John Doe, knowing nothing about pedophilia and hearing of the money returned to Todd Nickerson from Save the Children, well he was just appalled and decided to investigate. Lo and behold he discovers that Absolute Zero wasn't started because of the harassment from pedophiles.....oh no....it was started simply to harass and threaten with death innocent bystanders. The pedophiles who are just soooo good and pure and angelic. The ones who know best how to care for our children. And we dear friends are bigots and nazi's.

I knew Todd was stupid, I just didn't realize he was THAT stupid. Absolute Zero had nothing to do with the return of their advertising money they sent to Save the Children. (Although we would have, had it not already been taken care of when we heard of it) Furthermore, anyone can see right through poor Dominic. Save the Children has been alerted to your fake "non-pedophile" letters of support, Todd.

The Pedophile Voting System

**Ya'll may have to forgive me for cross posting this... but I was just dying to share it:

Some people will vote along party lines in 2008. Some will vote according to faith, others according to the issues that weigh most on their minds. Some will just vote according to whoever makes the best promises.
It is strange how people will get to making their choice about which person they to lead the Nation, and although I have heard a varied amount of reasons for why people choose one candidate over the other, this by far is the most disturbing, sickening and utterly repulsive reasoning in the history of voting:

I have decided to predict the next president not by the candidate’s political views, savoir-faire and fund-raising prowess but by something completely different. I have decided to make my prediction based upon what lovely First Daughter we can look forward to watching grow up for four to eight years. To give the older candidates a fighting chance, I have decided to evaluate granddaughters as well, but granddaughters will not be weighted as highly since we cannot expect to see First Granddaughters as often as First Daughters.

That is taken directly from the site of self acclaimed paedophile Linsday Ashford. Yes, the very same Ashford that I recently disclosed had attempted to use a children's charity to further his disgusting and demented corruption of children. (See both links)

What is particularly disturbing about this evaluation of the children of political leaders is that he has added to the insult by posting photos of the children, thus jeopardizing their safety as his minions ponder what deviant actions they could commit against these innocent children.

The list is gathered from both parties and includes images and information on the children/ grandchild of: Senator John Edwards, Governor Mark Warner, Senator Joseph Biden, Senator Tom Daschle, Senator Barack Obama, Senator Chris Dodd, Senator George Allen, Senator Sam Brownback, Governor Mitt Romney, Senator John McCain, Senator Rick Santorum, Representative Mike Pence, and Vice President Dick Cheney.

In case the whole thing with Save the Children, (see earlier posts) didn't tip you off to the fact that I tend to be a "little blogger with a big mouth" that feels it's important to inform people of what is going on, then this next part should quickly pass the message through.

I spent the day calling campaign offices about this situation. First, because as a citizen I believe that it is my job (and yours) to keep our leaders informed of the dangers lurking around their children. I may not care for someone's political stand... but I care about the safety of their children. Secondly, I was really interested in knowing just how these people felt when the tables where turned. So often it seems that many ignore the problems of pedophilia, child molesters and the like when they are sitting safely behind their Washington desks. If we can wake them up to remind them about how we feel intimidated and concerned when the child molester moves in next door, by showing them that even their children with all their security around, can be attacked by the likes of Ashford and his minions, then perhaps they will come to be more understanding when making laws, signing bills and doing their jobs we elected them to.

What amazed me the absolute most was the response from Senator Barack Obama public relations guy, who informed me that not only was he not willing to react to this, not willing to make a statement on it, but that he really wasn't that concerned. I can only hope that his boss would have taken a different stand on it. Although, perhaps it was the fact that Obama's children were "in the lead" in Ashfords predicted election results that clouded his better judgment.

By far the best reaction, and the most concerned came from Senator Rick Santorum's office, and his Chief of Staff was truly a pleasure to talk to, despite the fact that our discussion evolved around the most disturbing and disgusting man on the Internet.

Adding onto the "pedophile voting" disgrace is the fact that there is potential for these predators to reenact their "donation" plot yet again... only this time it appears that they intended receiver of the funds returned by Save the Children will be someone's campaign funds. In response one member of the child molesters forum suggested that they should write and complain to Senators that their money was returned. The answer he received back?

Instead of writing to Senators to complain, offer to donate to their campaigns... I think that they *will* take the money

Nothing like polluting campaigns even more. Although, I have to wonder just which Senator would be willing to accept funds from an organized group of scum child molesters? If nothing else, it would certainly perk up the nightly news a bit, heh? And perhaps, then our leaders will be more in-tune to listening to people when it comes to helping protect our children against these predators.

Terrorist Funding

Pedophiles are not collecting money just to try and wash their reputation with organizations like Save the Children. They are collecting it for more sinister reasons as well. If you have a look at the "Support of Activism" page, you will see that a lot of these pervert websites have banded together to collect money for "activism".

If you look down the page a little ways, you will see what they mean by "activism". Item number one: legal defense of people accused of child molestation! Item number two: legal defense of child sex offenders! In other words, the same pedophiles who claim to "care" for children are collecting money to help those who have victimized them! They are funding domestic terrorism!

The perverts are smart enough not to be collecting those funds in the United States. No, they are collecting that money in Holland. Now, I have gotten a lot of criticism from Dutch people about my comments about the Dutch legal system and I even took some of those comments down as a result. My main reason is that a lot of Dutch people showed me that they do not support the efforts of perverts like Norbert de Jonge and were against his pervert political party. Now, I hope the Dutch will lean on their politicians to freeze the bank accounts of the MARTIJN organization which is the pervert club that is collecting the dough.

We can also do something about this from here. We need to lean on our politicians to cut the flow to these bank accounts too. Just like they trace any other form of terrorist funding, we need to make sure they are tracking what money from this country is being directed into those accounts. Then we need to hold those people accountable for their actions!

The Dangers of Pedophilia

We've all heard the horror stories of child abductions and molestations and understand the very clear danger of something like this happening to one of our children. but my interest here is how this gang of psychologically handicapped people, by their mere words I am a pedophile harm society as a whole.

I've read lots of news stories such as a recent one from Australia, in which no one is allowed to take photographs of their children at school functions because of things pedophiles have done. Pedophiles say this is another example of parents hysteria.....but normal people say that it's yet another example of how they have harmed society. They restrict our rights as parents and they restrict our childrens freedoms by their very existence and continued attempts to go mainstream.

Take their recent failed attempt to use the Save the Children organization for example. They think, they say that we don't care for children, or we would just be grateful the money was donated at all. Obviously, they continue to underestimate us. That we could so quickly see through to their real motives must have been shocking to say the least. (Considering how they think we are ignorant, repressed people who require them to educate and enlighten us). So they go on a raging spamming mission of our blog. Yawn. They are so transparent.

But this is an example of why we must never be silent. Stopping their underhanded technique to abuse the good name of Save the Children, was a small victory for children, and yet it was a much larger victory in the scheme of things. When you realize that every step you take in slowing down that growing snowball hurtling down the mountain....takes us one step further in our mission.....Inform.......Expose.....Silence.

Now personally I've had some of these creeps ranting Expose? Expose what? I'm not breaking any laws!
So I will say this very clearly so that the more dense among you sexual deviants reading this will understand........... I want to expose what you are, I want to expose your beliefs, your desires and your evil mission. I want to stop you from attaining your goal.

I understand that you squabble amongst yourself....what is the correct way...blah blah blah. But this is to our favor. Those of you who say you would never harm children, associate yourselves with those that would (and have). You can't even agree amongst your own what is right and wrong. As a group you have no moral compass, there is no cohesive voice. How can you possibly think you can spread a message of love/no harm for children?

I also understand that you don't like me posting your comments here. That doesn't surprise me. I do however have a solution for you. Close your message boards and blogs to the public. Silence yourselves to the rest of the world....otherwise I will continue to use your own words against you. I realize of course that you also post our words in your deviant little holes of iniquity. What you don't realize however is that it doesn't harm us. Our mission is much more damaging to you. Normal people read this blog and they tell others....and they tell others....

Now, the psychopath Demosthenes, if you remember is the one who thinks that if children 'consent' it should be acceptable to give them drugs that would stop their physical development. He doesn't like what happened over Save the children, he thinks he knows why, but then he has lots of strange ideas.

They had some great loss of an adult love as a child, or had it withheld from them completely, and now they are jealous of any child that does have it. The most disturbing part of it all is that while they are actively parading around and shouting about the evils of us, the truth is that they harbor secret hatred of children for having the love that they feel that they deserve, and us for giving it to children whom they wholely undeserving.

(stitches shakes head in disbelief)

Yes, they have lots of ideas about why we stopped their donation. None of them are true, I might add. But this one just takes the cake. Enigma would like to use propoganda to purposefully mislead people in a twisted Machiavellian campaign to raise money and change society's perception by founding a charitable organization with a sinister ulterior motive.

Yes, that's where the battle needs to be fought. In the field of public relations, not public education. The average Joe isn't smart enough to question the sources of most of the information he takes in. But when he knows the information is coming from pedophiles, he's "smart" enough to automatically assume it's self-serving bullshit. So we need to educate indirectly, with or without his conscious cooperation, and in a way that makes the antis look like the freaks. Believe me, it can be done. Anything can be spun the way we want it to look.

Why not register a non-profit organization called something like American Council for Sexual Values? It's a nice friendly name that sounds like it'd have a message a lot of antis want to hear. Of course, there's no explicit mention of just what kind of "sexual values" this organization would be advocating.

Use it as a mouthpiece for studies done by folks like John Money, Judith Levine, Rind et al., and so forth. It's cheap to set up a non-profit organization, and as such, it could receive donations. Those donations could be used to fund political action committees, buy advertising on network television and newspapers, you name it. Nothing blatantly pro-pedophilia, of course. Just press releases such as "Studies show effect of sex during childhood can be positive." and "Correlation found between late age of first sexual experience and trouble with relationships in adult life." Get it into the public's consciousness that way, and that'll open the door a crack.

Is it dishonest? Yes. Is it manipulative? Yes. Is it mind control? Yes. Is it all the things we accuse them of doing against us? Yes. But we can't say we believe in our cause and then say we have to leave certain options off the table. If we really believe in what we're doing, if we really believe it's for the good of the children, then just as they will use any means at their disposal, so must we. If we want to win, we'll have to do what works, not what's fair or nice.

Have they spent so long with distorted thinking that they believe they can get away with this? Only if we let them. Only if we remain silent. We cannot afford to stand back and hope someone else does the work. As for me, I knew very little about this issue before these creeps had a go at my daughter....But now that I've seen....I can't not see. I'm like a duck on a junebug, like white on rice, in fact this is how I look.

Save the Children fiasco

Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson sent a donation they'd collected from pedophiles to Save the Children, we all know about this of course. We've seen Lindsay's Press Release

In response to these donations, Todd Nickerson, from whose home the donations were sent in, has received letters from the charity, thanking us for the “compassionate gifts” made and were signed by Carolyn Miles, the organization’s Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.
We are glad that Save the Children, despite the prevailing antipathy against girllovers, has seen fit to accept our gifts and in so doing recognized our commitment to aiding the empoverished children of the world and enabled us to do so.

Most people donate money NOT to receive recognition. This was purely a marketing strategy for these people. The money they collected could just as well have been going for an advertising campaign. Their motive was to be able to say that Save the Children accepted THEM If they wish to help children so much, let them send their money anonymously. Money works just as well that way doesn't it? Would they withhold the money if Save the Children won't accept it from pedophiles who wish to use that fact to further their agenda? And they call US sick?

Now, what they want to do, if they get their donation back is to have a mass lobby campaign to congressmen.. Of course, some of those like the little girls in his heart pervert thinks otherwise, Instead of writing to Senators to complain, offer to donate to their campaigns... I think that they *will* take the money, hehe...

Here's my word............if you care about children and want to donate money, send it in as an anonymous donor.........not with the end motive being the use of such donation as a propoganda tool.

Turning Back the Perverts

It seems that uber perverts Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson are at it again. Nickerson, Ashford and their buddies have been trying to give themselves a 'good face' by donating money to charity! Yep, they managed to scrounge up over a thousand dollars that they sent in to Save the Children. What's worse, Save the Children accepte the money and sent them a thank you letter, that they are now trumpeting as a 'success' (http://hfp.puellula.com/Press/2006-06-21.html). I can hardly believe that Save the Children could have known that these folks were scumbags, but they are claiming that they said so.

BUT! Thanks to bloggers such as Rose DesRochers and LILO, Save the Children has now realized their error and are sending the money back! Good for them! Now these perverts will know that their cash is most certainly not welcome.

Unfortunately, this is not where it ends. Ashford, the ringleader of this pathetic bunch, has decided to start exploiting the daughters of our politicians by plastering their pictures all over his site. I cannot understand how this has been allowed to remain for so long (http://lindsay.puellula.com/2006-04-30.html). Aren't there laws against this kind of nonsense? And I wonder if these girls' daddies know about this shameful display. I bet they dont - and that they'll be hopping mad when they find out. You can all help us out with this. If the children of your Senator or Representative appears on this site, why not phone them up and tell them. I am sure they will be grateful to you for your concern.