Never Say Everything

Michael Melsheimer:

I have known Fred Berlin for more than 20 years. Do you know that he spoke against the reporting law in the state legislature of Maryland when it was first proposed in the late 80's? This was not a popular thing to do. I was with him when he did this.

Berlin says a lot of things publicly, so do people like ourselves. We never say everything.

shy guy:

NAMBLA was founded in late 1978 following a meeting of a group of gay community activists that had rallied to defend the Boston gay community against a media/legal attack by the local DA.

I should note that among the most influential early members was an anarchist ex-minister with a background of anti-war activism and writing as well as activism on economic justice issues

Michael Melsheimer of B4U-Act is the new breed of pedophile activist which attempts to ride the fence between what is acceptable (help pedophiles not offend) and a group of men who get together just to figure out ways to legalize boy raping. The name of his organization upsets the BoyChatters however. B4U-Act implies that Michael wants to help them NOT rape babies. This is unacceptable to the pedophiles. The truth is that Michael doesn't want to stop them at all. He merely wants to infest society with a bunch of crap. He wants the same thing he's always wanted. He just can't say it. He can't say it to us, he can't say it to the mental health community and he can't even tell the pedo groups that he's on their side. We'd find out if he did. He's sneaky that way.

Michael has found the way to sideswipe society he thinks. He's convinced the Baltimore Mental Health Community that he's something he's not. BoyChat doesn't know what to think of him and the Reform Sex Offender Law Campaign is loving him.

Follow along with some conversations from BoyChat. Some brand spanking new, some a little older. The language never changes but his mission is made clear - Nambla didn't work. We must try something new.

Michael Melsheimer:

B4U-ACT is doing great. I recently spoke with a person that had something to do with the starting of NAMBLA. He thought it looked good.

mvanhouten:

Does Maryland know you show your webpage to old NAMBLA founders for approval?

Does everyone who goes to LifeLine know that your goal for them is to 'eliminate offending?' Or is it your goal? And if it isn't, does Maryland know that too?

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

mvanhouten:

What exactly DID you acomplish? Your website still states your goal as 'eliminating offending'? How much offending do you think you eliminated (with the gracious help of this unnamed NAMBLA founder)?

Michael Melsheimer:

Your website still states your goal as 'eliminating offending'?

It certainly does not.

The term child molester is not in the B4U-ACT lexicon. We do have in our lexicon the term minor attracted person. B4U-ACT wants to work with any minor attracted person that seeks us out.

mvanhouten:

It's right on your site!
Here is a sentence from your report to Baltimore Mental Health Systems (22 June 2007)describing B4U-ACT's purposes:

"The report describes how improved communication would contribute to the prevention of offending, the prevention of harm to minor-attracted adults and adolescents, increased understanding by mental health professionals, and more effective and just policies."

But the question now is: why not just say it here too? Why deny it so adamently here at BoyChat? Because it's a lie you made to BMHS? Or, because you don't wish your potential clients here to know that is your goal?

Michael Melsheimer:

The report was dated 2007. It is part of our history, but the passage that offends you is no longer relevant to our site today. I can't change what is in our history and would be dishonest to try. It would be like BC editing their archives. Our site changed in December 2008 because of the statement you quoted.

Be assured you will find no current reference to prevention of offending. You can take that to the bank.

mvanhouten:

Why don't you post here and now that neither you nor B4U-ACT take a position on the appropriateness or inappropriateness of adult/minor intimacy?

Why not state that it is now NOT the goal of B4U-ACT to 'eliminate offending'?

Michael Melsheimer:

People sometimes say too much and destroy what they really want to do. I have already said a lot and don't want to say anymore.

mvanhouten:

Do you personally believe that any and all adult/minor sexual interaction qualifies as 'offending' and requires elimination?

Why can't you give straight answers to simple questions? It seems almost a pathology with you.

Michael Melsheimer:

People sometimes say too much and destroy what they really want to do. I have already said a lot and don't want to say anymore.

Fame:

There is something called "politics", it a game which MM must play.

As things progress the politics change. Soon the word "offending" won't be used at all in b4uacts rhetoric.

Further, sexual activity with minors is illegal. It is irrelevant (to this discussion) whether it should be legal or not, the bottom line is that it is and b4uact must work within that framework. Neither b4uact nor the psychological community not the BL community at large wishes BLs to commit crimes for which they may go to jail.

You need to understand this.....as well as rhetoric and politics.

Fame:

If MM declared a position on the appropriateness of sexual acts here it may alienate those he works with since he has now taken on an agenda which is not a part of his organization.

mvanhouten:

What state agency would knowingly give someone money if they knew the effort he was putting into Lifeline/BoyChat?

Michael Melsheimer:

It is important for the MAA community to have contacts in organizations like Stop it Now. They have great influence on the legislative process, and we need to know them and they need to know us. Some of the people that work for these organizations are not anti MAA. It serves our community well to find, know, and work with them

mvanhouten:

I am all for advocating people break the law, especially when it comes to mutually agreeable activities.

Michael Melsheimer:

I was on the Sally Jesse Raphael show years ago with a NAMBLA person..... He influenced my life tremendously. NAMBLA made a lot of mistakes, but they supported BL's almost before there was anything else. Tom O' Carroll, PIE fame, is also one of my heroes. His book, Paedophilia - The Radical Case, certainly opened my eyes up to a lot of things, just as my travels to SE Asia did.

mvanhouten:

I ultimatley want to undermine the labels "child" and "adult" so that people will evenutally see a relationship between a 9 and a 29 year old with at least the same lack of concern as a relationship betwen a 39 and a 69 year old.

Michael Melsheimer:

I think that you are right. We do have to go slow and not take on a radical agenda. We could all learn well by what happened to NAMBLA.

As it relates to building bridges, you are right again. There is nothing more important for our community to do. It is the only way we are ever going to be able to get any possible acceptance in the larger community for who we are as human being and what we feel is right for children

Michael Melsheimer:

My organization is not going to say to offend.

I am a BL without regret and will always be a BL without regret. My life as a bl has been terrific. No one could ever make me say otherwise. This is even considering that I spent time in prison.

Our line in the sand has historically defeated us. We need to think about a new one.

Michael Melsheimer:

We need to come together as a community. But there is another choir we need to preach to. That choir is the larger community, and it can help make all our dreams come true. Our problem is that they aren't singing our song . The major job in front of us is to get them to sing it.

We have to be very careful at first as to what we say and do, so we can say do and say more down the road. We need to build bridges and coalitions. This means that we might have to cool it for the moment. Please note that I said for the moment.

Will Robinson:

I am continually amazed at the political skills (evasiveness?) of this B4U-Act organization.

Michael Melsheimer has my vote as one of the smoothest operators I've ever beheld.

Is he a great leader or the new "Tricky Dick" of pedo-politics?

Richard Kramer:

As you may know, B4U-Act is promoting communication between minor-attracted people and mental health professionals. The purpose of these services is NOT to "cure" us of our attraction to minors--we do NOT believe we are sick.

It comes as no surprise to us at Absolute Zero that this was B4U-Act's goal, we've been saying this all along, yet Alex Marbury, the coordinator behind the "Reform Sex Offender Laws" campaign, embraces B4U-Act and even describes pedophilia as an "important discussion" to educate activists on the benevolence of pedophiles.

This is a campaign being supported by sex offenders activists claiming to be "reformed." Groups like SOSEN and individuals like Mary Duval. msdxe3ct78

Crossing the Rubicon

Dec 10, 2003 at 09:08 PM
I am a being of thought,and now of action.
Of necessity I implement plans for the future, and follow them out, and perhaps, this course of action, fed by the madness in my mind and the fire in my veins, shall lead me to my pyrric victory.

--The Shadow of Souls

Eric Hansen aka TriedByConsience aka Shadow of Souls has been saying things like this for years. He's been in and out of mental hospitals and often speaks of creating battlefields and acts of war and gloriously magnificent feats of bravery and intellectual triumphs. He believes his situation to be similar to Jean Valjean.

The Sosenites consider him to be a "Constitutional expert". Eric thinks so too.

He recently increased his rantings and ravings, but what wasn't clear was what his actual plan was. Was he going to attempt suicide again? Was he planning to pull a Walter Howard prediction and become a suicide bomber? Was he going to blow up a court house? Was he simply going to run?

Well yes, it does appear to be that simple, except he wasn't going to run, he was just going to walk straight in, refuse to register as a sex offender, and in a mighty display of mumbo-jumbo psychobabble throw Idaho into a state of shock and awe. Someone apparently failed to tell him that it wouldn't work that way.

Mary Duval, the COO of Sosen encouraged and supported his pre-meditated felony. Anyone with half a brain can see that he needs psychiatric help but Mary is so proud of his bravery that she just can't hardly speak. Yes, she's in awe and says that he's one of the most intelligent men she knows. That is the leadership occurring in the "Sex Offender Support and Education Network".

The issue here is not what Eric planned. Nor is it the hows and whys of it. Many disturbed people throughout history have plotted subversive acts; his behavior should come as no surprise. He's been talking about going out in a blaze of glory for over 6 years now. But Mary, a non-sex offender, in a leadership position - openly and brazenly agitating, condoning, supporting and actually encouraging criminal behavior at the very least is immoral - most likely illegal and completely irresponsible. If she wants to "lead" sex offenders she has an obligation. Part of that obligation is to be aware of who she is leading, dangerous behaviors they may be exhibiting that could put not only themselves but others at risk of harm, and directing unstable people towards the help they need. Did Mary, the COO of Sosen encourage him to get psychiatric help? Did she find appropriate resources for him, for example? Or did she even recognize his instability for what it was? Is she capable of recognizing it?

18-8311. PENALTIES. (1) An offender subject to registration who fails to register, verify his address, or provide any notice as required by this chapter shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison system for a period not to exceed ten (10) years and by a fine not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).

Will Eric go to prison? I doubt it. Once he starts talking the judge will probably order a civil commitment hearing in which case he may be confined for the rest of his life. I repeat: Mary's behavior is beyond irresponsible and I believe exhibits a blatant disregard for the well-being of those she presumes to "lead".

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by her behavior after her shocking attempts to prevent the sex offenders under the bridge from obtaining housing. Her instructions to them were to say "Hell no, we won't go". Did she lie when she said they were in a desperate situation? Did she lie when she said they needed out from under that bridge as quickly as possible? There are people finding them residences and while that doesn't end the larger problem of "where will sex offenders live" it does help the immediate problem. It's hot, it's filthy and "no human should have to live that way", but Mary would have them stay where they are. Why? Those men - without jobs - without residences - without even running water listen to Mary. They listen to Mary because they believe she has their best interest at heart. But I believe Mary is willing to use, exploit and hurt anyone in her attempt to induce a Revolution through her acts of sedition.

I believe there will have to be another coup in Sosen. The other members there who have honest and legitimate concerns and needs better wake up and quickly. Mary Duval is leading them straight into hell.

As Absolom once said:

In some cases the best way to protect your civil rights is to shut the fuck up.

A Real Cat-astrophe

Some people just have the worst luck, you know?

Case in point:

The Associated Press reports that a Florida man is blaming his cat for child pornography found on his computer.

48-year-old Keith Griffin claims that he was innocently downloading music when he left the room and his evil feline downloaded over 1,000 images of child pornography to his computer.

Now that's some bad luck right there.

Well frankly I don't think - um anyone - is going to believe you, Keith. So, here's my tip for you: make Mary Duval your spokesperson. Don't worry Keith, Mary can handle it - she's got it all worked out. By the time she tells everyone what a 'snot-nosed, teary-eyed victim' and 'evil vigilante troll' that damn cat is, you should have nothing to fear.

Ok enough of the charade. Everyone point and laugh.

The devil will look in my eyes...and be afraid

The Sydney Morning Herald, February the 22nd, 2008:

Queensland's top prosecutor has failed to obtain a criminal conviction against a medical student who offered to give an 11-year-old boy a "penis massage".

Pakistani student Shakeel Mirza, 26, was sentenced to 12 months probation in October last year after pleading guilty to one count of attempted indecent treatment of a child under 12.

A conviction was not recorded after the judge accepted it was a low-level sexual offence and that it was out of character.

I wonder whether the judge would have thought Shakeel's offense was 'out of character' had he known that Shakeel had been posting on BoyChat for years under the screen name 'Greencrystal.' Postings like this...

Sometimes I think I am worse off for having come to BC-being here has made me into a bigger pedophile than what I ever was originally. its like smoking occasionally by myself, and then joinging a group of smokers, and thus becoming hooked on smoking.

Dude..you are far more honourable than me. Waay more. YOu see, if I were a counselor at camp, I would not do what you did..however, i would blatantly try to make friends with some of those boys for my own gain.

Yes, women want it all. Power in bed, power over boys, power over their lives, and to hell with men-

thats an exaggeration, but still.

and then women have the GALL to complain when they get raped.

hell, they deserve it.

After pleading guilty, the judge sentenced Shakeel to 12 months probation and ordered that no conviction be recorded so as not to 'hinder his future employment prospects.' This slap on the wrist did nothing to deter Shakeel, who continues to this day, three years after his original offense, to post on pedophile message boards about his lust for children.

I love boys. Its that simple. Sorry to the world, but hey, the world can go fuck itself- I love boys. i cant help it. I dont think there's a cure of it either.

We are all boylovers.

we are all child molesters.

the difference is simply how we feel on that particular day at that particular time in that particular circumstance..its just one SPECTRUM. And we, as human beings, simply "float" along the spectrum..sometimes we are more BL, other times more Child moester.

I went to see a movie today...schools out, plenty of kids around. I went to take a pee..a 12/13 year old walked in...turned his back to me and faced the urinal..I looked at his neck. succulent, soft...I love hairs on the nape of the neck. I wanted him. I wanted almost every boy I saw today.

And I'm angry. I'm hurt inside. I wanted to grab him, hold him, lick his neck, make him moan...run my hands through his hair, brush my fingers against his soft lips... I WANTED HIM!!!!!!

What the FUCK is wrong with me?

Like Michael Morrow, Phillip Distasio and Roger Keith Bloemers, Shakeel Mirza used a volunteer organization for disadvantaged children as an avenue to gain access to boys. This is where he came into contact with a child he later attempted to molest. Shakeel participated in a therapy program, but a lot of good that did him, he wrote this on BoyChat a week or two ago:

http://www.3news.co.nz/Govt-sued-over-alleged-child-abuse-in-former-Dept-of-Social-Welfare-homes/tabid/209/articleID/113273/cat/17/Default.aspx?ArticleID=113273


“Everyone time he came in to wake me up he’d either be sucking on my penis or masturbating me, and if I said anything he’d hit me,” said former home resident Brian Wilkinson.


Servers you right you fucker.
Burn. Let the whole bunch of cunts, fuckers, assholes and whatnot pedo bashers fucking burn.

I KNEW someone out there was taking my quota of sex. Now I know where it went *jealous*

And you think that's bad? To give you some idea of how sick Shakeel really is, he once wrote this on BoyChat:

What am I? Whatever it is, it is surely worse than death..but death is not a bad thing..it can be made sweet..the high pitched cries of a tortured child, the agnosied screams as i bite.. mayhaps the devil will look in my eyes..and he will be afraid.. God, you created me. YOu gave me this. I never wanted it, I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS FUCKING TORTURE!! Now You see what i do..see how I live. "You may not love God, but God still loves you" yeah fuck me. Would You feel good if I raped and hurt and killed children?? huh? WOULD YOU FEEL LIKE I HAVE FINALLY SERVED MY PURPOSE IN LIFE?? Thanks a fucking lot for giving this fucking hell to me!! I'm such a bastard..someone should shoot me. IF they can.. You God..grant me peace. amen. Greencrystal

This man belongs somewhere he can never touch another child, someone so bent on justifying pedophilia and sickness is beyond any help available, but instead the Australian judge which sentenced him to probation was more worried about affecting his 'future career prospects.'

'Slip a little powder in his milk'

Michael John Morrow A.K.A. Michael1016 A.K.A. Michael814 of Grand Junction, Colorado, used to post on many pedophile message boards, from places like BoyBliss and BoyMoment through to GirlChat and more. Morrow used to post about all sorts of things, let's take a look, shall we?

"He is beautiful, 13, sort of small for his age. He showed up at basketball practice in VERY TIGHT (mmmmm) speedos and a sleveless shirt. The speedos I took notice of for obvious reasons...and then, when he removed his sweat suit top, I was mezmerized. His arm pits had just enough hair to set me off (I won't be specific what that means), and I had to challenge him to a one v. one game until the other guys showed up. I got close enough to smell him, and it was even more beautiful that I could imagine."

"Sadly, my favorite boy, a gorgeous 13 year old, moved aobut a month ago, but before that he gave me many pleasureable times."

You see, aside from being a pervert, Morrow (like other pedophiles we know), volunteered as a 'mentor' in an organization set up to help boys "develop a positive self image, a sense of belonging and an acceptance of responsibility for their actions." Hardly the message a scumbag like Morrow would send to child as a mentor, or as a teacher:

I teach a weekly class to middle school kids (ages 12-14) and one another class to the same age group.

Morrow was a pedophile by his own admission:

Word pedophile does not faze me, might as well face up to it, actually.

Thanks to the Wikisposure project, that wasn't the only thing Morrow had to face up to. After Wikisposure volunteers collaborated with Law Enforcement, Morrow was arrested and convicted of possesing 13,000 child pornography photos. He's been sentenced to 84 months (seven years) in prison, but if you ask me, he got off far too lightly.

In the following chat log, he describes an experience he claims to have had with a 5-year old boy which he claims to have abducted while the boy was at school:

WARNING: This may contain triggers

Michael says (4:19 PM): this happened years ago
Michael says (4:19 PM): i was on a trip to idaho
Michael says (4:20 PM): i had cruised this school for two days...i was going to leave the enxt day and i figured, what the heck
Michael says (4:20 PM): i had my popper.s i have a rathter innocent looking car. and i knew that i could pick up this little boy
Michael says (4:20 PM): i had seen h im, looked at his body language
Michael says (4:21 PM): my divorce allowed me to be me
Michael says (4:21 PM): and i wanted this
Michael says (4:21 PM):if he had resisted much, i would not have done it
Michael says (4:23 PM): im safe. it was just a 30 minute thing. and i was headed out of town anyway. i took the boy back to the school
Michael says (4:23 PM): im not sure he told anyone. he may have
Michael says (4:23 PM): it's really he only time ive done anything quite that brazen

This next section of the chat log was said before the one above, but describes the same incident:

Michael says (4:01 PM): he is starting to cry, but i dont care
Michael says (4:01 PM): ive noticed him for weeks
Michael says (4:02 PM): i drive by the school almost every day and JO while i cruise it
Michael says (4:02 PM): he is the one i want...i want to suck him, and fuck him deep
Michael says (4:05 PM): i give him some ice cream
Michael says (4:05 PM): and slip a little powder in his milk
Michael says (4:05 PM): i want him relaxed

So "consensual" and "loving," but we already knew these people were like that. They use children to satisfy themselves. Morrow was never charged nor convicted for this crime, his victim is still out there.

As a final thought, Morrow once commented:

A support group for other boylovers (pedophiles) is very important, and I'm glad having been a part of several.

Rot In Hell, Fat Baby Fucker!

It seems a black flag is flying over at boychat.

AW, someone DIED?

Boo hoo, a child rapist died??

If there's a hell, I hope that Ghost Writer, the serial child molester, burns in it forever. He was a disgusting piece of shit who had many victims over the years, victims who have to live in their own private hell for the rest of their lives. The world was a much safer place when he was thrown in jail in Mexico, and now, it is a much BETTER place.

Fitting that the rapists on boychat call him family. They are all just alike, and I hope they all meet the same end: dead in jail.

Rot forever, Robert Vann Smith. No one will miss you except the criminals on pedophile websites. I, however, will have a nice rum daquiri for the occasion. :)